I'm starting to get worried. Bernie group talk me down :(.

[ZM90]

The latest NH poll that came out has Clinton gaining back on Bernie to make it a statistical tie. I think the corporate media's debate manipulation might be working despite our best efforts. I fear that if Bernie isn't elected that the oligarchy will have won. I was in a much better mood earlier but now I am starting to worry . I swear if Clinton is the nominee I am not voting...I do not trust her...and it isn't because of her emails it is due to the fact that she is not consistent on the issues. Not that my vote would matter being as how I live in OK. I am just so sad to see the corporate manipulation may be working despite our best efforts.

[bkkyosemite]

1. Bernie has told the truth

he told us to vote, to volunteer in masses. The more we can get people to understand what he stands for the more we can take away the oligarchy's hold on our country. Cheer up look to volunteer, they will try to sway the masses but we can too.

[ruffburr]

2. It is what it is-

The people have to stand up against the corporate propaganda, As far as the voting part ,Even I will have to vote for the democratic nominee no matter who is selected in order to stop The right wing republicans from destroying the country and the planet, Though if it's not Bernie I Will Not be happy about it.

[ladjf]

26. Your post was short but full of significant importance to life on Earth. nt

[jeff47]

3. Polls go up, polls go down.

Obsessing about absolute values in a poll is not a good idea this far from election day. Care about the long-term trends, not a specific result.

Also, it was already a statistical tie in NH before the debate. Clinton supporters were crowing about that statistical tie quite loudly.

And in the end, no victory is permanent. The oligarchy winning today will not make them win forever. The old ways are literally dying off.

[totodeinhere]

4. The media want everyone to think that Hillary won the debate because they

they are in the tank for Hillary. It's too bad that some voters are stupid enough to fall fall for that.

[JDPriestly]

5. I will not vote for Hillary under any circumstances either.

Don't worry. Bernie is the best person for the job.

I note that the polls taken after the debate are slow in coming out.

That may be because they show Bernie gaining nationwide.

Also, the polls may not be reflecting people who back Bernie but have not voted in recent elections. They are many.

Our job is to get the Bernie voters out.

If you get out on the street and volunteer and leaflet or table, and meet with real people and talk with them about Bernie, it will probably make you feel better because you may discover that people really, really like Bernie -- many people who do not usually vote love Bernie.

[totodeinhere]

10. I won't either. And if it gets me banned from DU then so be it.

The future of our country is much more important than some little website.

[ZM90]

12. It's hard for me to get out and meet other people and not because I do not want to.

I don't own a car and the bus system isn't as good as it used to be after Tulsa Transit received budget cuts.

I am one of those rare people who generally walks everywhere and I do not rely on transportation generally. I am lucky I live in a area with stores to get groceries just a block away.

As for me not owning a car well I am going to open up to the Bernie group and tell you why I do not. I have a fear of driving and I developed that fear after my sister had a car accident that scarred her for life physically in some ways. I wish we all could just get everywhere via teleportation devices and I think I was born in the wrong era or something lol. I also do not like how many of the cars are contributing to climate change and I refuse to own one in order to do my bit to slow it down just a little. I'm sorry if this sounds silly but that's just the way I am.

[JDPriestly]

19. I fully understand your fear of driving. I do not like to drive myself.

Maybe someone from the Bernie group could pick you up and take you. Or maybe you can canvas your neighborhood on foot.

You could make calls too.

[SoapBox]

21. I will never vote for her.

I will write in Bernie, IF, she happened to be the nominee.

I will absolutely support Bernie until the end.

If he does not win, I'm also changing my registration in California from Democrat to Undeclared.

I've had it with Deb! and all the Entrenched Establishment bullshit.

[ladjf]

27. I point out that the DNC has a long and vicious record for ramming

their pick down Democrats throats. I don't think they espouse the basic principles of the Democratic Party. They are often more like Republicans then Democrats, i.e. Republicans in Democratic suits.

[Demeter]

6. I lived in NH for 29 years

The dominant party is still the GOP, despite all the Democratic federal elections. And the GOP in NH will go for Bernie....they aren't that crazy to go for Trump or any of the other whackos in their own roster.

So, they will cross over and vote for Bernie in the primary, because they absolutely hate anything named Clinton (and with good reason. Hillary has to live down both her own sins, and those of her hubby, a massive amount of unfavorables!). Hatred of Obama will further fuel the turn to Bernie.

New Hampshire is one of 21 states with a mixed primary system. Unaffiliated voters may vote in the primary, but in order to do so, they have to choose a party before voting. This changes their status from unaffiliated to affiliated with that party, unless they fill out a card to return to undeclared status. Most of these Independents vote Republican historically, but not this time, I think. The only candidate that a NH voter could relate to is...Bernie Sanders, who walks the NE walk, even if he still talks with a Brooklynese accent.

In the 2012 primary: Of the 767,383 registered voters in New Hampshire, 312,621 are registered as "undeclared," or roughly 41 percent of the total registered voting population, a larger percentage than both Republicans (30 percent) and Democrats (29 percent).

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/the-independent-effect-in-the-new-hampshire-primary/

[Scootaloo]

7. It's October. Polls are gonna go up, polls are gonna go down.

[Dawgs]

8. Romney took the lead over Obama after the first debate in 2012.

It will be fine.

[bunnies]

9. 65% landlines.

I dont know a single person who has one.

[mhatrw]

17. Landlines = people who watch broadcast network news

[bunnies]

20. excellent point.

This poll doesnt worry me at all. As a NH resident, Im seeing Bernie signs and stickers everywhere. Ive seen 1 Carson and 1 Trump and nothing for anyone else. And believe it or not... there are STILL people here who havent heard of him. I introduce at least 1 person to him a day. Every bit helps.

[LiberalElite]

23. That's not the only reason some have landlines -

a good friend who lived in Florida had a cell phone but kept her landline because as we found out on 9/11 - cell phones don't always work. She was "older", yes, but she needed a dependable means of communication and for her that was the landline. She did not have a computer - she lived on a very limited income. She also was a very intelligent college grad and lifelong voter for Democrats.

[Babel_17]

11. When it become Clinton vs. Sanders

When it become Clinton vs. Sanders, and with Clinton being long past the sympathetic outpouring of support from the crowd at the first debate, things will be different. That was a one time thing, imo*. People are going to see Clinton as having at least a modicum of responsibility for this issue constantly being held up as a bone of contention. And her being seen by most as having some actual culpability that will call for a bit more than "I'm sorry" is also likely, imo. Senator Sanders was wise to pass on this. Better for the party, better for his campaign. Plus it was just nice. Clinton got her bounce back in part because the Republicans are just mean spirited by way of their rhetoric overplaying what's verifiably known at this time. But the actual process of this investigation, by the FBI and others, will grind on, regardless of how fair or unfair

But anyway ...

The spotlight will be bright on those two, and they'll both have to explain, in detail, their position to an audience of primary voters who are paying attention.

Social Security expansion, Medicare expansion, the prison industrial complex, regulating banks and Wall Street, making banks and Wall Street pay, taxing off shore cash, college tuition, corporate funding of campaigns, corporate control of Congress, and more; these will be the issues that Sanders will win on.

*http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/17/us/politics/obamas-comments-on-clinton-emails-collide-with-fbi-inquiry.html?ref=politics

[n8dogg83]

13. Don't get worried. Get busy supporting Bernie. For one, its just one poll....

secondly, keep in mind that Hillary won NH in 2008 and we all know what good that did for her. We keep fighting and registering voters and knocking on doors and re-tweeting and donating. We keep spreading the word and make sure those young folks who overwhelmingly support Bernie actually show up in the primaries and we will see a repeat of 2008, where the candidate that energizes and inspires is the victor.

[MuseRider]

15. At this point I watch the long trends.

It is so far in the future politically speaking that worrying about single polls is just terribly hard on everyone.

Of course we love them when Bernie is up and hate them when he is not but all this back and forth on DU is driving me freaking crazy.

Just keep up your support and talking to people. Do whatever you can to help the campaign. That and voting are about all we can do. Fighting here is stupid mostly but worrying about single polls is not going to help you at all.

Oklahoma? I am Kansas. Not much that we do ever helps but this time it seems there is more crossover, at least from what I am hearing. Nothing concrete to give you but just keep going. He is working as hard as he can, hopefully it will be enough to fight and win.

[mhatrw]

16. The last poll by the same polling group had Clinton ahead by 10%.

So Sanders has actually gained 8% in this poll.

[cprise]

22. You have to let go of the media angst somewhat

Candidates like Sanders and O'Malley have to work around the corporate media. There's no alternative because they'll be biased and even use dirty tricks.

So yes, a pro-establishment media effect is built-in to the whole process now. Its better to accept it and turn the task of countering it into kind of a game.

The Sanders campaign is making heavy use of Twitter.... It's clear they'd rather give the corporate media as little of their money as possible.

[LiberalElite]

25. Here's my two cents -

We can just do our best and then we have to let it go. We can't control everything (although HRC's camp is trying very hard). What I myself had to learn the hard way is that, it is best to put some "space" between yourself and what you want. Detach. Try not to cling to the notion that things MUST be one way or the other. It's not healthy for you either mentally, emotionally or physically. It's too much stress and you do not need that. I fervently want Bernie in the White House too but, even he acknowledges it's going to be a hard road. My "Plan B" is to write him in. I will not vote for the corporate tool whichever one it could turn out to be. This is not meant to be discouraging, just realistic.

P.S.: Ignore the corporate manipulators. Take a break from the news and maybe even DU sometimes. It gets pretty intense in here.

[jomin41]

30. Very good advice, LE.

We have to remember that we are playing a long game. This is a movement. Bernie as Prez will not be able to do anything without a large movement. He says so himself. So even if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, the movement has started, and will continue, and will continue to grow. Don't despair, but don't expect miracles or quick success, either. The struggles for justice and democracy and fairness are never over. They are constant. Go Bernie!

[swilton]

28. Also a NH Resident

Anecdotally - In Keene, did door to door campaigning for Bernie last weekend - it was like 75%-25% in favor of Bernie. The other 25% were not home or were for Hillary or any of the above.

Just one poll had Hillary ahead - I saw a composite poll that had Bernie ahead by 4-5 points.

[TBF]

29. So much concern today ... I've seen several similar posts

hmmmmm

And they are the reason I posted these words of wisdom in another thread ...