Bernie Sanders
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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/10/bernie-sanders-clinton-democratic-primary-socialism/The Sanders-Clinton exchange (FIRST DEBATE) may not have reached the heights of Lincoln-Douglas, but it was a rare and worthwhile discussion of a real political question. Equally revealing was the way Cooper repeatedly tried to end the discussion. Coopers insistence that the question is really about electability often passes for practical wisdom in politics, yet its entirely untrue. The most important progressive changes in our history have been spearheaded by protest leaders abolitionists and suffragettes, brawling strikers and ACT UP-ers who were all wildly unelectable.
Of course, protest movements are different from presidential campaigns, where it stands to reason that electability should matter more but not in the narrow and self-serving way that mainstream political consultants and pundits instinctively use the term. In their view, its just simple math why Bernie Sanders isnt going to be president according to polls, only about a third of Americans like socialism. The underlying assumption is that peoples ideas are unchanging even when the idea in question is socialism, which few people have ever heard a positive word about in polite society until the Sanders campaign. But even if Bernie really is unelectable because of socialisms low public opinion ratings, you might think that the Republicans virtually identical approval numbers would make them equally impotent. Yet here they are, running both houses of Congress and statehouses across the country, making the world a meaner and stupider place one day at a time.
The problem, as political scientists Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argue, is that the US is not a democracy but an oligarchy:
In other words, American democracy is like American cheese a synthetic, democracy-like product that is chemically altered to eliminate almost all traces of organic popular power...
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tecelote
(5,122 posts)Many people here on DU are supporting it with votes for Hillary.
Please wake up and make the choice between Bernie or Martin.
Give Americans the country we deserve. Make the world a better place.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)It is only the natural evolution of the combined desires of Wall St shareholders. We exist in the most democracy those who enrich Wall St will allow the rest of us to enjoy.
For every person out there fighting for real change. For education, for health care, for BLM, for the environment, for safety nets, for honesty in government, there are legion who enrich the coffers of those that deny us a fair shake at not only not having our needs addressed, but even being heard to begin with.
The combined shrieking of shareholders drowns out the individual wails of those crushed by them and for them.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I love the following: "But even if Bernie really is unelectable because of socialisms low public opinion ratings, you might think that the Republicans virtually identical approval numbers would make them equally impotent. Yet here they are, running both houses of Congress and statehouses across the country, making the world a meaner and stupider place one day at a time."