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leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:17 PM Nov 2015

Comcast Orders MSNBC To Remove Anti-TPP Hosts

I know a lot of people here already know these facts, but I find it interesting how MSNBC operates.

-snip-
Published on Jul 30, 2015

When it comes to coverage of the Trans Pacific Partnership, no one in the corporate media covered the issue more than Ed Schultz on MSNBC’s The Ed Show. When it was announced last week that they were pulling the plug on his program, they effectively killed the only national voice that was talking about the disaster of a trade deal on cable news.

But what is the real reason for MSNBC dumping Ed? When you dig down, it’s dirtier than you would think.

Ring of Fire’s Mike Papantonio and Farron Cousins discuss this


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Comcast Orders MSNBC To Remove Anti-TPP Hosts (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Nov 2015 OP
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #1
Hey I have only 2 recs to give. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #35
Do you see the absence of the usual suspects in this thread as just a bit curious? Enthusiast Nov 2015 #50
They call themselves Democrats yet they fail at every test of Democratic Principles. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #57
Same thing with TPP, NSA, etc... cui bono Nov 2015 #67
I haven't watched MSNBC for months. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #71
I have the same impression of Rachel. nt Enthusiast Nov 2015 #72
For reals? wendylaroux Nov 2015 #2
K&R - nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #3
There is no liberal media. It's a facade designed to keep corporate America in control... think Nov 2015 #4
+1 million darkangel218 Nov 2015 #15
Bingo! eom SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #38
That's why they keep saying it. They are trying desperately to keep that false meme alive. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #51
If I didn't oppose TPP already, this would do it for me. Congrats, Comcast ! eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #5
Very well, Bernie will be the President to kill TPP Dodo Nov 2015 #6
Let the scales drop from your eyes and open them. Cleita Nov 2015 #10
I agree with you... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #34
Yup. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #39
Much like Bush's "Clean Skies Inititative" CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #53
Yup. n/t SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #73
I doubt that any human language... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #7
couldn't agree with you more!!!! AikidoSoul Nov 2015 #30
It's not Bernies job to save us. kacekwl Nov 2015 #36
Agreed... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #52
K&R..... daleanime Nov 2015 #8
K&R! haikugal Nov 2015 #9
Was it mentioned that President Obama actually mentioned INdemo Nov 2015 #11
+1 kristopher Nov 2015 #14
I would like to read more about the rise of the Nazi Party, the similarity seems obvious. Stardust Nov 2015 #74
K&R Grey Nov 2015 #12
information control retrowire Nov 2015 #13
Fuggin Comcast. Ilsa Nov 2015 #16
K&R summerschild Nov 2015 #17
K & R historylovr Nov 2015 #18
Even before COmcast bought MSNBC Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #19
I hold out hope Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2015 #20
Big Ed's site OxQQme Nov 2015 #21
Yes! True Blue American Nov 2015 #42
+1 Enthusiast Nov 2015 #46
Fuck Comcast billhicks76 Nov 2015 #22
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Got that right!!! 66 dmhlt Nov 2015 #59
The TPP: brought to us by the same greedy folks who hate unions. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #23
They hate unions, free speech and most of all, a high standard of living for the American worker. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #47
K/R marmar Nov 2015 #24
Did Rachel Maddow bring up TPP on Friday's forum? If she did, I must have missed it! nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2015 #25
She Didn't... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #26
Rachael never has True Blue American Nov 2015 #45
She has a nice gig. I can understand her wishing to preserve her job. But it is disappointing. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #48
Most millennials get their news Thespian2 Nov 2015 #27
Free Speech TV True Blue American Nov 2015 #43
Thanks, Thespian2 Nov 2015 #68
Just donated to free speech TV - it's about all we've got. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #28
Bastards. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #29
Recommend...Under Bush II we Built Left Media......then watched as it KoKo Nov 2015 #31
They only give us a glance at truth, to gain credibility, so they can sell it again! MasonDreams Nov 2015 #32
K&R!!!! Phlem Nov 2015 #33
How can anyone not see that we are in the middle of a coup? senz Nov 2015 #37
You can NOT have a democratic government without a democratic form of economics fasttense Nov 2015 #55
comcast sucks trueblue2007 Nov 2015 #40
Ed was also the only one to tell the truth and even talk about the Gulf oil spill Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #41
Look For Ed True Blue American Nov 2015 #44
This is how the Corporate Right® has achieved their gains—through capturing the media. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #49
Another day in the most reality shareholders will allow. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #54
K&R x 1000 LW1977 Nov 2015 #56
Gee, where's the anti-regulation crowd? IkeRepublican Nov 2015 #58
Ed needs a Sirius show! mfcorey1 Nov 2015 #60
MSNBC anchors who have disappeared or have been marginalized. mfcorey1 Nov 2015 #61
And don't forget to add Phil Donahue to that list. avaistheone1 Nov 2015 #62
Karen Finney is working for Hillary. dmr Nov 2015 #64
Rachel Made Up for It True Blue American Nov 2015 #70
Before I cut the cord, I'd dvr 3 msnbc programs just like you, and it was my main reason for cable. Stardust Nov 2015 #75
Thank you! Yes, I'd like more suggestions. dmr Nov 2015 #76
I've only clicked on the Progressive Mind link once, and that was right before I posted it for you. Stardust Nov 2015 #77
That corporations could negotiate a "trade deal" while our elected Fawke Em Nov 2015 #63
If TYT and others are building new networks why are they not working with these other people? I jwirr Nov 2015 #65
K&R!! Duval Nov 2015 #66
Always thought they removed Ed for his opposition to the TPP and his support for Bernie! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #69

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
50. Do you see the absence of the usual suspects in this thread as just a bit curious?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:42 AM
Nov 2015

They should be here telling us there is 'nothing to see here' and the TPP will have 'many good elements'.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
57. They call themselves Democrats yet they fail at every test of Democratic Principles.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:34 AM
Nov 2015

This article is about censorship but since it favors their world view of corporate domination, they hide and won't discuss.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
71. I haven't watched MSNBC for months.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:43 PM
Nov 2015

I used to watch Rachel Maddow, but she's only as liberal as her corporate masters allow her to be.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
51. That's why they keep saying it. They are trying desperately to keep that false meme alive.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:47 AM
Nov 2015
There isn't even a centrist media. There is a smoke screen media. Since the change at CBS I have seen the effects across the board. It is even reflected in the questions on Jeopardy. I am not kidding.

eppur_se_muova

(36,266 posts)
5. If I didn't oppose TPP already, this would do it for me. Congrats, Comcast !
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:36 PM
Nov 2015

Nothing fires up resistance quite so much as blatant repression of opposing views.

 

Dodo

(39 posts)
6. Very well, Bernie will be the President to kill TPP
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:40 PM
Nov 2015

I think he will also make sure that "free trade" ideas are buried 100 miles deep in concrete, never to be opened again.

Fair trade ideas are better.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
10. Let the scales drop from your eyes and open them.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:11 PM
Nov 2015

These trade deals never had anything to do with "free trade" and never will. They are about monopoly and the enslavement of labor for the profit and enrichment of a small elitist class.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
34. I agree with you...
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:14 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:06 AM - Edit history (1)

...that the TPP has nothing to do with free trade. It's about subjecting all workers to the lowest common denominator, when it comes to wages, benefits and working conditions. It also eviscerates environmental regulations.

With all if that said, I am mystified as to why Obama would not only go along with this, but also speak highly of it.

And Hillary called it "the gold standard" of trade deals.

All politicians know what the TPP does and how destructive it will be for the environment, wages and worker rights and working conditions.

So, why do they leverage this garbage?

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
53. Much like Bush's "Clean Skies Inititative"
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:07 AM
Nov 2015

I'd be insulted, but I prefer to think of these politicians as complete morons (as well as their lemming followers who believe this nonsense).

"Gold standard" ....sickening.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
7. I doubt that any human language...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:58 PM
Nov 2015

... has a vocabulary sufficiently vile to express just how poisonous and unspeakably evil the Trans-Pacific Partnership really is. Which doesn't say much for those who support it.

It's Knight-in-Shining-Armor time, Bernie. SAVE US FROM THESE MONSTERS!

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
36. It's not Bernies job to save us.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 01:27 AM
Nov 2015

It's OUR job 1st to f-ing vote to get him elected then keep voting in ALL elections to give him support. 2nd to support a political revolution to drive money out politics. We have the power if we use it.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
52. Agreed...
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:57 AM
Nov 2015

... the cry for help was just a rhetorical device, as well as an expression of confidence in one of my senators.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
11. Was it mentioned that President Obama actually mentioned
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:14 PM
Nov 2015

MSNBC by name calling out a commentator in his speech "that is negative about this" referring to obviously Schultz and the TPP.
I think the next Ed Show he actually had Bernie on and they were talking directly about what the President said and both agreed he was referring to the Ed show.

Its funny how politics..that is right wing politics and right wing supporters have became so damn hateful. And if one is a progressive and in my Indiana red county/red township has a yard sign up for a progressive candidate it doesnt just get knocked down it gets destroyed.

Its sad to see this because the younger generations now have not seen anything but violent,,angry hateful,dirty politics brought about by the right wingers...Which certainly is cause for them to stay away from public office,even non political positions like school boards etc.
I think one should read about the rise of the Nazi Party in the 30's.(Hitler and the Rise of the Nazi Party)
and it will scare the Hell out you when you think about what is happening in politics today.

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
74. I would like to read more about the rise of the Nazi Party, the similarity seems obvious.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:34 PM
Nov 2015

Can you rec a good book or source? There must be thousands of sources out there and I'd like to start with the best one, if possible. Thanks in advance.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
19. Even before COmcast bought MSNBC
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

They had a long history of pulling the plug on their top shows.
Ask Phil D. - Olberman - etc

Corporate Fascist Media.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
20. I hold out hope
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 05:16 PM
Nov 2015

that the social media that exists today and yet to come will totally eclipse MSM and more folks will be junking their teevees. I know I'm getting tired of the $89 check to Direct TV every month.

K&R

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
42. Yes!
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:15 AM
Nov 2015

I get Ed's email so I can watch him any time I want without the ignorant commercials for Jelly and Viagra that make you so happy, but include numerous warnings they may cause Cancer, heart attacks,etc.

I love streaming web sites, boycott MSNBC unless Rachael has a great show like the candidates.

Most popular show there, but I often wonder how long she will stay.
CNN ratings are up 109%. And Aljazeera.

MSNBC is hurting themselves. We do not need cable any more.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
46. +1
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:23 AM
Nov 2015

MSNBC is only concerned about controlling the message. The American people can't be against something they have never heard of.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
26. She Didn't...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:43 PM
Nov 2015

Rachel knows what side her bread is buttered on. The Comcast "You Better Not Say S**T About the TPP" Side.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
27. Most millennials get their news
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:51 PM
Nov 2015

from sources other than M$M...

I have socks older than most millennials, but I agree with them...I read AJ and The Guardian UK...without the Internet, which will be destroyed by TPP, TTIP, TISA, I would get no news at all...

Ed was another great loss...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
31. Recommend...Under Bush II we Built Left Media......then watched as it
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:18 PM
Nov 2015

crashed and burned or sold out for lack of continuing support. Eight years after a Dem Presidency what do we have Left of the Left in MSM?

Some try to say the Left Message doesn't resonate with the American People. Others say that Obama solved most of our Problems and the Left wasn't needed like it was under Bush II. Still Others say that Left Media was too much of a Threat to the Status Quo and once it got a enough of following and started to promote Activism.. it had to be infiltrated or eliminated.

Whatever the reason...are we better off today than we were a couple of decades ago? Has Social Media taken the place of Traditional Media and can it hold to make a difference with so much diversity of sites possibly diluting a cohesive message as the MSM still finds ways to Manipulate Message and Drive Breaking News?

I guess time will tell.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
32. They only give us a glance at truth, to gain credibility, so they can sell it again!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:55 PM
Nov 2015

Bait and Switch shuck and jive

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
37. How can anyone not see that we are in the middle of a coup?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 02:33 AM
Nov 2015

We're over half-way there. TPP will be a giant step for the transnational corporations because it places corporate interests over those of democratically elected governments -- and their people.

We should be shouting about it from the roof tops. It is outrageous.

Instead, the MSM is conducting a blackout of it so that the American people won't know what is being done to them.

It's so hard to believe that no one of consequence -- except a few brave politicians like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren and courageous pundits like Chris Hedges -- is speaking out.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
55. You can NOT have a democratic government without a democratic form of economics
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:22 AM
Nov 2015

Capitalism will always lead to a feudal/lord government, a totalitarian, dictorial type government because capitalism itself runs that way. To get a long lasting democratic government you have to reflect that democracy in your economic system. Because economics will give power to the richest. Do you really want Koch Brothers and Trump to have the power?

The rich control the media. If Bernie wins, you will have a media aligned against him, much like what you have in Venezuela right now.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
41. Ed was also the only one to tell the truth and even talk about the Gulf oil spill
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:38 AM
Nov 2015

and what was going on with the crooked BP litigation for the same reasons.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
44. Look For Ed
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:20 AM
Nov 2015

To show up On Free Speech. Pompeana,or what ever his name is gave a blistering endorsement to Ed.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
49. This is how the Corporate Right® has achieved their gains—through capturing the media.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:39 AM
Nov 2015

God knows what ultimate designs they have in store for the American citizens and the world. I have a suspicion that it is worse than we can possibly imagine.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
54. Another day in the most reality shareholders will allow.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:13 AM
Nov 2015

Someday we may have democracy again, but only when they stop attacking it.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
58. Gee, where's the anti-regulation crowd?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 11:40 AM
Nov 2015

Lovingly felating the big companies that want to regulate the hell out of every citizen, like all "libertarian" republican douche bags.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
61. MSNBC anchors who have disappeared or have been marginalized.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:14 PM
Nov 2015

Kornecki sucked up and turned right so they kept him.

Ed Schultz
Krystal Ball
Al Sharpton (as soon as they announce his ratings are low and use it to rid of him)
Joy Reid
All of the Cycle group
Karen Finney

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
62. And don't forget to add Phil Donahue to that list.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:23 PM
Nov 2015
Phil Donahue on His 2003 Firing from MSNBC, When Liberal Network Couldn't Tolerate Antiwar Voices

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/21/phil_donahue_on_his_2003_firing

dmr

(28,347 posts)
64. Karen Finney is working for Hillary.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 01:05 PM
Nov 2015

I think as a communications advisor. Not really sure what she does.

Comcast & the other corporate powers can all go back to hell, from where they reside. From HW Bush & his Congress fast-tracking Murdock's American citizenship so he could own TV stations, to all the other changes that allows the media (and other corporate entities) to form their monopolies can all go to hell, too.

Anyway, about MSNBC: I won't turn it, or any cable news until Maddow, Hayes & O'Donnell comes on at night.

Rachel's show has changed. Rarely do we get defining or critical issues as she once did. Nowadays it's cutesy GOP bullshit. I enjoy laughing at the GOP, too, but to hear 40 to 60 minutes of it every night gets old real fast. I used the word cutesy because that's how she's talking these days. I keep trying to think of how to describe it. She speaks like everything is funny or unimportant, including non-GOP baloney. She once reported with great credibility, you couldn't help but respect her.

I DVR each of the 3 evening shows so I can fast forward through the silliness. It makes me sad.

I'm about to pull the cable box out. Rachel has been the only reason we've kept cable, but it's to the point I don't much care anymore.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
70. Rachel Made Up for It
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:07 PM
Nov 2015

Todd had her on MTP, when the BS started from the right, Rachel corrected them.

Told is such a toadie I do not watch, but people are thinking she should be the Host on MTP. I would watch it if she was. I knew he would have her on,reason I watched. She is MSNBC's shining star.

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
75. Before I cut the cord, I'd dvr 3 msnbc programs just like you, and it was my main reason for cable.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:57 PM
Nov 2015

Since then I've found other sources (for msnbc):

http://livenewschat.eu/politics

http://progressivemind.ucoz.com

The first one can be iffy, especially during high-interest programs such as Rachel and the debates, but fills the void. Rachel's entire show is available as a podcast, as well. And no commercials!

The second link was recommended to me recently by Nicole Sandler, a progressive talk-show host, who's creating a website devoted to listing progressive media sources. I haven't had a chance to check out her link yet, though.

There are so many alternatives to cable, that I literally don't have time to watch them all. If you want any suggestions, let me know. I realize many DUers despise msnbc, but my old habits die hard.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
76. Thank you! Yes, I'd like more suggestions.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:36 PM
Nov 2015

When I clicked on MSNBC's live stream I then turned on the cable channel & found cable was nearly one minute behind the stream.

There was a pop up on the progressive mind link, but it's in another language. Do you know what they were asking? And which language? Also, after clicking on other channels they want the user to join, & then ask for a credit card. Do you know what that is about?

I'm like you. Old habits die hard. When Rachel first came to MSNBC, the whole household came to a grinding halt. I had to hear each and every word spoken. The family thought I was bad with Olbermann, who affectionately I referred to my 8pm boyfriend. (Ha!) But Rachel was rich with interesting issues along with a strong sense of much appreciated history. My son got me a DVR specifically for Rachel. I have never missed a show. It pained me to write negatively last week abut her. She did a wonderful job in the Democratic forum. OK, I'm rattling on, too much coffee, I guess, least that's my excuse.

I appreciate the links, & am interested in other links you may have.

Thanks again.

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
77. I've only clicked on the Progressive Mind link once, and that was right before I posted it for you.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 04:38 PM
Nov 2015

I did notice the pop up but I ignored it (it was in Russian, btw.) I didn't go any further except to verify that the site exists. I had no idea that the programs were behind a paywall. Nicole did mention that she'd had a falling out with the site's owner, and that's probably part of their dispute. She has vowed to never put her show behind a pay wall and I really admire her for that. She knows we're all struggling just as she is.

I've loved Rachel since her Air America days and although she does seem to be muzzled now, I still admire her ability to bring background to a subject that most of us don't have the time to research. I was a huge Olbermann fan, as well, and miss him so much.

Here are some suggestions for progressive programs that I enjoy:

Secular Talk (YouTube) hosted by Kyle Kulinski, a fellow Bernie supporter. His website is http://www.SecularTalkRadio.com where you can find his radio show, etc.

Sane Progressive (YouTube), another Bernie supporter with a spot-on view of today's politics

Free Speech TV (I get it thru a Roku app, but I'm sure it's available online.)

The Young Turks (YouTube)

The Norman Goldman Show (he's on the air on a few of the remaining progressive radio stations, and can be streamed online.)

Ring of Fire (on TYT channel, I believe)

The Stephanie Miller Show (Free Speech TV)

Thom Hartmann (Free Speech TV)

Ed Shultz (on TYT channel, I believe)

The Professional Left podcast (iTunes) I believe they, the wife and husband team of "Blue Gal"and "Driftglass" each have blogs, too.

I'm sure i've left off some really good ones. I'll let you know when Nicole has her liberal media website up. I'm pretty sure the website will be: TheLiberal.media.


Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
63. That corporations could negotiate a "trade deal" while our elected
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:54 PM
Nov 2015

representatives couldn't even look at it shows that this county has arrived at oligopoly and fascism.

When we talk about the TPP to our friends and family, we should call it just that: fascism. Don't sugarcoat it. Call it what it is.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
65. If TYT and others are building new networks why are they not working with these other people? I
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

would be happy to contribute. We need these people to unite and fight back. We are trying to build that movement to cover Bernie's back - this could be a big part of it.

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