Even neocons call Clinton a neocon.

[Fawke Em]

“I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy,” Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obama’s more realist approach “could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table” if elected president. “If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue,” he added, “it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html?src=twrhp&_r=1

That would be Robert Kagan, a founder of the neoconservative PNAC.



Why do people keep saying she's strong on foreign policy? She's incredible weak because she's incredibly wrong about nearly everything she's done.

I like Bernie's approach: bring in the region and STOP using our lives and tax dollars to do the region's dirty work.

[Wilms]

1. And then there's his wife.

Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State Victoria Nuland.

Stirring it up in Ukraine.

[forest444]

12. Ah, the intrepid Mrs. Kagan and her $5 billion neonazi Svoboda coup.

Our tax dollars at play.

[leveymg]

2. HRC is the leading neocon in the Democratic Party. Her supporters either

don't care or really dig on that fact. Have never heard anyone seriously try to refute this.

Think about the implications of that.

[Fawke Em]

3. Based on some comments in threads about the

alleged husband and wife killer team, I'd venture to say that many "dig on" that fact.

DU is pretty scary, itself, tonight.

[leveymg]

6. I disagree. Neocon is not the same thing as antiterrorism

It is in fact the neocons and Cold Warriors who made a pact with the Saudis that led to 9/11 and subsequent terrorist attacks including this one, which is apparently inspired or organized by ISIS. Without the neocon regime change operations across MENA, ISIS wouldn' t exist.

[Fawke Em]

7. To clarify: I agree with what you just said, but that's not

what some are saying over in other sections of DU.

Some are actually going full-out neocon because they believe more of it (not less) will somehow stop terrorism from coming over here. It's like they learned nothing from the fallacy of "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" rhetoric.

[CoffeeCat]

4. Did you know that Kagan was one of Hillary's ADVISORS??

Yes, the founder of PNAC--Robert Kagan--was a foreign-policy advisor to Clinton, during her tenure as Secretary of State.

"Kagan served on Clinton’s bipartisan foreign policy advisory board when she was Secretary of State, has deep neocon roots."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-18/neoconservative-is-down-but-not-out-of-the-2016-race

Outrageous.

Bernie is the only one who can give us our country back--and our Democratic party too.

These people make me SICK!

It's also worth noting that KAGAN was one of the PNAC signators on the 1998 letter to then-President Bill Clinton. The letter asked him for war in Iraq. In fricking 1998. Don't tell me that Senator Clinton didn't know that the war was a farce when she voted for it. Those bastards asked her husband for the same damn war in 1998.

[Fawke Em]

9. She keeps some pretty scary company:

Kagan, Kissinger and the Bush family. And that doesn't include all her buddies on Wall Street.

I can't believe she has so many supporter on a board dedicated to Democratic principles. Hell, I can't believe the number of progressive politicians who have endorsed her or just assume she's the nominee before any votes have been cast.

This is a frightening election if you're not a 1 percenter.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

16. I don't understand this, either.

But the PTB have definitely determined that they will give us the privilege of getting to vote for her in the general election.

We are free enough to vote for whom they've selected to win the election.

[sammythecat]

18. I don't understand the support either. It must be based

on her gender is all I can figure. A man with her record and connections to Wall Street, big business, and 1 percenters wouldn't be a very popular Democrat at all. I'm all for a woman winning the White House, and the sooner the better. It's enormously important that that happens, but please, not with this woman. I used to be a big fan, that all began to change with the IWR. Now, I don't trust her at all. Not even a little bit.

[Enthusiast]

25. +100%!

[CoffeeCat]

19. It is frightening...

...which is why that I'm grateful that we have Bernie who represents "We The People" instead of these neocon assholes who represent the worst of humanity.

[TIME TO PANIC]

5. Sad, but it might be true.

She actually said the biggest threat to our national security is nuclear weapons/material falling into the hands of terrorist. To me that sounds like she's itching for war.

[AzDar]

8. K & R

[Marty McGraw]

10. K & R

[Nyan]

11. I like that he said loud and clear

That he's not a fan of regime change

[Spitfire of ATJ]

13. Actually Bernie's approach STARTS with getting them to realize they have a problem.

[reformist2]

14. To them, hawkish = "strong", dovish = "weak". It's brainwashing, and we need to call them out on it.

[Fawke Em]

27. I've started doing just that.

I don't think someone whom neocons like is "more qualified" than the common sense candidate on foreign policy.

I don't think someone beholden to Wall Street is "more qualified" than the common sense candidate on economic policy.

[MannyGoldstein]

15. Hillary has a proclivity towards the death of others

- Iraq war

- Death penalty

etc.

[zalinda]

17. This video alone is enough to make me sick

she is a twisted person, to be so gleeful at someone's death. It terrifies me that she may be President. I hope to hell she isn't or our country will never be safe. She would bring about WWIII.

Z

[Enthusiast]

24. Me too. True colors......

[sammythecat]

20. If that had been "W" saying that and acting that way,

everyone on DU, including Hillary supporters, would have been thoroughly disgusted with the blatant psychopathy.

[Plucketeer]

29. Wow! Sobering

Of course, she's the only female candidate we have to send to the White House - and that's the prime qualifier - so I guess she's it!

[cui bono]

21. Wow!

That's pretty damning. What sort of Democrat would support someone like that?

.

[Hepburn]

26. IMO, a DINO.

Real Dems, like FDR Dems, don't support this kind of bullcrap.

JMHO

[Scuba]

22. Hillary has oodles of foreign policy experience. The problem is she's been wrong more than right.

[Enthusiast]

23. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

Incredibly wrong on foreign policy does not equal strong on foreign policy.

We have already had years of incredible wrong. It didn't work out so well.

[KoKo]

28. Repub James Baker and Hillary Laughing it Up on Charlie Rose about Taking Out Iran--Video

to DU'er "reformist2" for this Video of James Baker and Hillary Laughing it up in Charlie Rose Interview about War with Iran:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=875784


(UNBELIVEABLE) Hillary Clinton laughs about possible war against iran

[Major Hogwash]

30. This is why Bernie will be our nominee next year.

It is totally sick that she is laughing about starting a war with Iran.
With James Baker, a true warmongering neocon!!!!!!
Jesus, it doesn't get any worse than this!!!!!!!!!!

[KoKo]

31. Don't know how anyone viewing this could think otherwise...

But then the "Terra, Terra, Be Very Afraid, is back out there these days.

We have to Hope for Real Change.