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Robbins

(5,066 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:34 AM Jan 2016

Mo Democractic poll Clinton only leads by 5 47% to Bernie 42%

me and fellow dems aren't wild on clinton if she only leads by 5 before Iowa and NH which bernie could take both
http://overtimepolitics.com/hillary-clinton-holds-5-point-lead-in-missouri-over-bernie-sanders-47-42/

remember back in 2008 the assumination was she would take MO.Obama won primary In Mo.

I also find it hard to believe bernie is at 42% here In Mo without getting some black support.if you know anything how things
go in mo politics for dems to win In MO you need strong turnout in these areas to win

urban part of Kansas city
St Louis City
St Louis County
Columbia

Kansas city and st louis have a lot of blacks.That is why i called mo pols reaction to ferguson so stupid.they were ailenating voters
dems need In MO to protect Police.Columbia is large area with collage students.

Ms Inevitable doesn't have it won when she is basicly cloe to tied here In Mo.

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Mo Democractic poll Clinton only leads by 5 47% to Bernie 42% (Original Post) Robbins Jan 2016 OP
I think that there is a shock coming, many many many people are feeling the Bern! peacebird Jan 2016 #1
Put Claire McCaskill at the front of those swilton Jan 2016 #12
yes indeedy tazkcmo Jan 2016 #2
Vermont is rural state Robbins Jan 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author tazkcmo Jan 2016 #6
'Words getting out! tecelote Jan 2016 #4
I'm from Mo SmittynMo Jan 2016 #5
I love it. Paka Jan 2016 #7
Do not trust Overtime Politics HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #8
I don't know anything about them Robbins Jan 2016 #9
Sure, but these guys don't perform any type of statistical analysis before contacting voters HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #11
When you only poll your landline supporters.... Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #10

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. I think that there is a shock coming, many many many people are feeling the Bern!
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:38 AM
Jan 2016

The powers that be and little DWS are in for a big surprise and Hillary is going to find a bumpy road ahead.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
2. yes indeedy
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:40 AM
Jan 2016

These polls under report the support of Sen Sanders due to their heavy reliance on past voting involvement (polling previous Democratic primary voters) wile ignoring first time participants and returning participants. Would also like to point out that the rural parts of the state will never vote for any Clinton, especially Hillary but will vote for Sen Sanders even if it's just because he's not Trump or Clinton.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
3. Vermont is rural state
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jan 2016

even though she uses guns to try to attack bernie she make him sound moderate on gun rights.Bernie saying he doesn't believe
those who legaly sell guns should be sued makes him sound reasonable on guns while clinton panders to gun control supporters
which is another flip flop.

Rural areas are tough for any dem.Bernie could get some votes in rural areas.not maybe enough to win the rural areas but some
that if you add to areas with strong democratic turnout to be competive against republicans.

Response to Robbins (Reply #3)

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
4. 'Words getting out!
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jan 2016

That's all Bernie needs and why the media is ignoring him.

People hear his message and connect. Wow! This guy is real, honest and consistently speaking about the good of Americans.

Most people think that an honest politician is an oxymoron. Bernie breaks the mold and gives them hope.

The revolution for real change is growing every day.

America is about to take a big left turn.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
5. I'm from Mo
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jan 2016

St Louis, and proudly display my Bernie sticker in my back window. People honk at me all the time. I love it.

We, in this state, feel the Bern daily. He's going to win. March 15 is the primary, and I can't wait.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
7. I love it.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jan 2016

I talked to a potential Bernie supporter today from MA, who was clueless and I got her fired up and she promised to check Bernie out on Facebook and twitter. Here is Chiang Mai, Thailand and she assured me she is registered and will be home in time to vote. When I pointed out he was from her neighboring state she was doubly excited. She's been traveling and bought into the meme that Bernie couldn't win. Hasn't followed anything and was excited to hear how well he is doing. One-by-one we will win this.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
9. I don't know anything about them
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jan 2016

I got this from the bernie Missouri page.We could say same on other polls methodology ignoring first time voters and underpolling
under 45 yearolds.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
11. Sure, but these guys don't perform any type of statistical analysis before contacting voters
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jan 2016

They just pick up the phone and dial random numbers until they reach a certain number of people.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
10. When you only poll your landline supporters....
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jan 2016

.....that's almost like having a couple of beers at a picnic. You feel good for the moment then get really tired 2 hours later. Or taking a painkiller to relive pain from a toothache. After it wears off, your back to where you started with a aching tooth.

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