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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:54 PM Jan 2016

Sanders: If LBJ followed Clinton ‘we would not have Medicare’

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Sen. Bernie Sanders challenged Hillary Clinton on Friday over her refusal to increase payroll taxes to expand family leave, arguing that alternative approaches would jeopardize funding for the proposed benefit.

“Here is an area where Secretary Clinton and I have a different point of view,” he said in a short speech at the DoubleTree Hotel. “She has talked in vague and general terms about the need for paid family leave and medical leave. She has not described how she will pay for it.”


“I’m the only candidate running, in either party, who will tell you my goal, my pledge, is to raise incomes, not taxes, on the middle class,” Clinton said in a speech in Des Moines earlier this week.

That’s not true — almost the entire Republican field has pledged not to raise taxes and every major contender has released proposals along those lines. But it does set up a contrast with Sanders, who argued that more a broad-based tax “enshrines” middle class benefits and keeps them from being gutted down the line. He estimated the average cost to a worker under his plan would be $1.61 a week.

“If Lyndon Baines Johnson had taken the same position as Secretary Clinton that a small payroll tax was unacceptable, we would not have Medicare in this country,” Sanders said.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/sanders-if-lbj-followed-clinton-we-would-not-have-medicare

(note in the usual MSNBC style the article ends with a nonissue attack on Sanders. I looked for a different source but could not find one at the moment. What I posted is the real news part)

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Sanders: If LBJ followed Clinton ‘we would not have Medicare’ (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2016 OP
If we accept that maternity leave is essentially "Pregnancy Security", a natural extension of Social thereismore Jan 2016 #1
Bernie is being both pragmatic & realistic. nt Herman4747 Jan 2016 #2
yup. succinct, pointed, and Doctor_J Jan 2016 #3
If FDR had done the same (no payroll taxes) we would not have social security. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #4

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
1. If we accept that maternity leave is essentially "Pregnancy Security", a natural extension of Social
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jan 2016

Security, then it is clear that we can't ask just the rich to pay for it. Everybody contributes to SS (I am not going to discuss the unfairness or fairness of the cap). It would never survive if just the rich paid for it. We all have children after all. Get real people.

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