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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:11 AM Jan 2016

The Democratic Choice: Change or Continuity

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/01/19/democratic-choice-change-or-continuity

The contrast was most stark when the candidates addressed the question of how they would get anything done.

Clinton argued that she’d continue Obama’s frustrated efforts to reach out to Republicans:

“I will go anywhere, to meet with anyone, at any time to find common ground. Because maybe you can’t only find a little sliver of common ground to cooperate with somebody from the other party, but who knows? If you’re successful there, maybe you can build even more. That’s what I would do.”

Sanders, by contrast, argued that nothing significant will change so long as the system remains corrupted by big money and special interests.

“Let’s be honest and let’s be truthful. Very little is going to be done to transform our economy and to create the kind of middle class we need unless we end a corrupt campaign finance system which is undermining American democracy…[W]hat we’ve got to do is create a political revolution which revitalizes American democracy; which brings millions of young people and working people into the political process. To say loudly and clearly, that the government of the United States of America belongs to all of us and not just a handful of wealthy campaign contributors.”
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The Democratic Choice: Change or Continuity (Original Post) eridani Jan 2016 OP
We need change Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #1
1% or 99% orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #2
It pretty obvious that the 2000 Presidential election was stolen and possibly the 2004 as well. jalan48 Jan 2016 #3
To preserve the illusions of "democracy" Proserpina Jan 2016 #4
I agree with you. jalan48 Jan 2016 #5
It's not just amnesia...it's the "thought police" Proserpina Jan 2016 #6
Always spot on. Preach it to the masses. draa Jan 2016 #8
Nope. The Democratic Choice: Change for the better or change for the worse. merrily Jan 2016 #7

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
1. We need change
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:15 AM
Jan 2016

but in a leftward direction. We've gone far too rightward since Reagan turned the word "liberal" into an epithet.

jalan48

(13,906 posts)
3. It pretty obvious that the 2000 Presidential election was stolen and possibly the 2004 as well.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:29 AM
Jan 2016

Why on earth would Hillary "reach out" to these asses? To get what done?

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
4. To preserve the illusions of "democracy"
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:37 AM
Jan 2016

and gratuities, of course. To do the puppetmasters' bidding...don't rock the boat! Don't queer the pitch! Let the 1% continue their conquest.

It's like a dutiful housewife's daily dusting of a Superfund site...conventional, and pointless.

jalan48

(13,906 posts)
5. I agree with you.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 07:50 AM
Jan 2016

I'm just amazed at how quickly many Democrats forget the rage they had just a few years ago over the blatant actions on the part of the Republicans and Neo-Cons. Now "reaching out" is acceptable when it should be the opposite. Your explanation about doing the "puppetmasters' bidding' seems the most logical explanation for people like Hillary. I'm not sure which is more depressing, candidates like Hillary or those with collective amnesia about recent events.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
6. It's not just amnesia...it's the "thought police"
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:08 AM
Jan 2016

and the complete disregard and censorship of factual information if the source can be slandered as RW-sourced, as if the Left had a monopoly on truth, facts, law, history, or any other wellspring of human knowledge.

How many times on this site alone have posters been battered and tombstoned for being the first to bring an inconvenient or unpleasant truth to the attention of the membership? How many sources have been later accepted that were previously derided? How many heroes were shown up as somewhat less than heroic? How many "Commies" were finally admitted to be nothing of the kind?

Under these operating guidelines, D U cannot even claim superior ethics.

I will believe in justice when the unjustly tombstoned are free to rejoin us.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Nope. The Democratic Choice: Change for the better or change for the worse.
Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:11 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie will be a change for the better. He has already put us on a path of return to New Deal politics and getting money out of campaigns.

If Hillary wins the primary, the nation will keep going right, as it has been since the first DLC/New Democrat/Third Way President, William Jefferson Clinton.

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