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elleng

(130,923 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 08:55 PM Aug 2015

Martin O'Malley and Black Lives Matter Doing an Apology Right

During Netroot Nations 2015, Democratic candidate Martin O'Malley was the first candidate to experience the heat of the Black Lives Matter protest. While Senator Bernie Sanders got dinged, later, he perhaps had time to see how O'Malley handled it and to adjust. O'Malley did not have that time. He was sitting there ready to give his spiel . . . AND . . . BAM. A protest happened right in his face.

It is known now that he did not handle it well. In response to a chant that Black Lives Matter, O'Malley responded by saying, "Black Lives Matter. White Lives Matter. All Lives Matter." Even worse, he swallowed and said it again. Oy vey!

'Later, when being interviewed at Netroots Nation for the podcast This Week in Blackness, the former Maryland governor was challenged by host L Joy Williams. “Do you understand the difference in responding in that conversation in that context with ‘all lives matter’ or ‘white lives matter’ when we’re specifically talking about black death that is not all-inclusive?”
“I certainly do,” O’Malley responded. “I believe what I first said was that black lives matter before those other two phrases.”

“That was a mistake on my part and I meant no disrespect,” he continued. “I did not mean to be insensitive in any way or communicate that I did not understand the tremendous passion, commitment and feeling and depth of feeling that all of us should be attaching to this issue.”'

That is how one does an apology. Good job, O'Malley . . . BUT Black Lives Matter is a particular phrase, representing that while all races are being killed by police, African Americans are disproportionately murdered and injured by cops . . . by the State.

Moreover, O'Malley was the first candidate, Democrat or otherwise, to have a criminal justice platform that includes racial justice components.

Things, I like about the O'Malley plan, especially as it relates to Black Lives Matter. First, it's fairly comprehensive and focuses on injustices to all groups.

The introduction hits me where I live:

'Our country needs new leadership that will honestly assess our broken criminal justice system and put forward solutions that will:
Ensure that justice is delivered for all Americans—regardless of race, class, or place.

Build trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve.

Ensure fairness and equal treatment for all people at every step within our justice system.'

At the core of the Black Lives Matter movement, IMHO, is that the police are out of control. There is no longer any trust between Black people and the State that the police represents. It's good to see this addressed.
And, there were other things I liked that hits home with the Black Lives Matter movement: . .

O'Malley has some really good points, including strengthening civil rights protections and encouraging independent investigations, which I like because the former involves the DOJ and the latter ensures that the police are not investigating themselves.
Above and beyond these issues, Martin O'Malley has a very comprehensive and well rounded plan. He calls it Criminal Justice on his website, but in reality it is a equality or justice or civil rights plan.

It's 9 pages long. Comprehensive. Take a look. I was impressed. I was even more impressed with a fellow Kos diarist who did an excellent comparison between Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders. I'm not interested in the comparison here. I mention it because the diarist, askew, did a most excellent one-line topiic-by-topic grid so that you can look down the grid for whether O'Malley's Criminal Justice Plan included your particular "thing." The grid really allows you to see what is included and what is missing. Of course, reading the Plan yourself is the best way to obtain accurate information but this grid is pretty damn good.

So, I'm liking what I see about O'Malley so far . . . based on his plan and the sincerity of his apology. I will be looking at him even more since what I know of him so far says, "look further to see if you see things you like."

PS: For those who are interested in a comparative between Martin O'Malley's plan and Bernie Sanders, there is an EXCELLENT diary on this.

Hillary Clinton has not put up a website on her racial justice/criminal justice plans. But here's a link to a comment that rounded up many of her speeches and comments on it.

The more information we have and share, the more informed decision we make and the more demands we can make of our candidates during the primaries and the more responsive they will be.

For now, based on what I know now, O'Malley is viable.

PS: For those who are interested in a comparative between Martin O'Malley's plan and Bernie Sanders, there is an EXCELLENT diary on this.

Hillary Clinton has not put up a website on her racial justice/criminal justice plans. But here's a link to a comment that rounded up many of her speeches and comments on it.

The more information we have and share, the more informed decision we make and the more demands we can make of our candidates during the primaries and the more responsive they will be.

For now, based on what I know now, O'Malley is viable.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/18/1412844/-Martin-O-Malley-and-Black-Lives-Matter-Doing-an-Apology-Right-Reviewing-O-Malley-s-Justice-Plan

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Martin O'Malley and Black Lives Matter Doing an Apology Right (Original Post) elleng Aug 2015 OP
Thanks for bringing this over. askew Aug 2015 #1
Right. I MIGHT have seen one sometime. Yesterday??? elleng Aug 2015 #2
I am due to do another policy comparison here and over there again. askew Aug 2015 #5
I'm with you (as you know,) elleng Aug 2015 #6
Do it. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #9
Thanks for the encouragement. askew Aug 2015 #12
K&R. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #3
Good. Glad you came over, Raine. elleng Aug 2015 #4
It really is. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #7
Happy to be here, elleng Aug 2015 #8
I met the man. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #10
Great that you met him. elleng Aug 2015 #11
This is excellent! JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #13
That's what I noticed too JAG. lovemydog Aug 2015 #15
This plan has viable, achievable goals. lovemydog Aug 2015 #14
That is excellent.. Peacetrain Aug 2015 #16

askew

(1,464 posts)
1. Thanks for bringing this over.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:05 PM
Aug 2015

I went over and tipped/recommended. That place has turned into a Bernie vs. Hillary feud and it has gotten so repetitive. I can't remember the last time I saw an interesting policy conversation happen there.

elleng

(130,923 posts)
2. Right. I MIGHT have seen one sometime. Yesterday???
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:16 PM
Aug 2015

I usually start here, and then move stuff over there.

askew

(1,464 posts)
5. I am due to do another policy comparison here and over there again.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:32 PM
Aug 2015

I hate to spend all the time on it and have it sink like a stone though.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
9. Do it.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:41 PM
Aug 2015

Seriously, I bookmarked (on my browser, not the DU) the last one for future reference.

I loved it and I really think this group can use them. I promise you, even if you think it will drop, I will use whatever data policy graphs you have in the future.

Sometimes I look at out group as an informational place to use when needed. As we gear up for the next six months (primary time in Iowa) this will be really useful!



Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
3. K&R.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:24 PM
Aug 2015

I just came over to the Mo'M group because I like it.

Then I saw this op and once again, I liked it even more.

:: Sitting back and drinking some sleepy time tea before bed and feeling relaxed ::


Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
7. It really is.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:37 PM
Aug 2015

Ellen, I am very happy to call you friend.

also, I like the MO'M Group as it just seems like a more mellow place.

also again, I just think that Martin O'Malley guy is saying all the things I want in a POTUS candidate.

You are my night owl friend, I am fading fast. Thanks for a great post.

elleng

(130,923 posts)
8. Happy to be here,
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:40 PM
Aug 2015

and yes, a real night owl!

Watching Democracy Now, re: Julian Bond, QUITE SOMETHING!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
10. I met the man.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:43 PM
Aug 2015

he was a force.

Sad that he left us. Really sad, I liked him personally and for his work.

elleng

(130,923 posts)
11. Great that you met him.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 11:50 PM
Aug 2015

About a year ago, I attended a program at which he was featured speaker at my friend's U-U congregation in Rockville. Truly a force.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
13. This is excellent!
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:51 AM
Aug 2015

The content, the tone, and the highlighting of O'Malley's platform without giving too much fingertip/lip service to the other candidates - bravo!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
15. That's what I noticed too JAG.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 07:06 AM
Aug 2015

It's more than rhetoric. It's real workable solutions. I'm convinced that Martin O'Malley cares deeply about reforming the criminal justice system. As indicated in his platform, he's committed to serious reform through working with local, state and national officials.

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