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highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:40 AM May 2019

Economist/YouGov poll, May 5-7 interviews, voters giving multiple replies for candidates they like

Just out. This one's interesting because this was what they were surveying:

Which candidate or candidates are you considering voting for in the Democratic Presidential primary or caucus in your state in 2020? Select all that apply


Link to poll results:

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/tkqga43437/econTabReport.pdf

The results are on page 118 of 313 (they were polling on lots of subjects).

Anyway, the top results in order of preference:

Biden 53%

Sanders 42%

Warren 41%

Harris 39%

Buttigieg 36%

Booker 22%

O'Rourke 22%

Castro 12%

Klobuchar 12%


All the other candidates were in the single digits.


Sanders and Warren did better than Biden among 18-29 year olds. Biden led in all other age groups.

Biden had more support among whites (49%), blacks (69%) and Hispanics (52%) than any other candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Economist/YouGov poll, May 5-7 interviews, voters giving multiple replies for candidates they like (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2019 OP
Biden is even leading with a majority of millennials? WeekiWater May 2019 #1
He's leading among the 30-44 age group, which would include the older half of millennials (23-38 yo) highplainsdem May 2019 #2
The older millennials are the ones most likely to vote. Demsrule86 May 2019 #3
Thanks for sharing the data. WeekiWater May 2019 #5
I agree that's possible. We don't have an exact breakdown by age. highplainsdem May 2019 #7
55 and up DownriverDem May 2019 #14
I know. ananda May 2019 #4
At the moment it looks like 4 tiers there for the top candidates: highplainsdem May 2019 #6
Biden/Harris DownriverDem May 2019 #15
Interesting poll (lots to wade through), thanks. Some like to talk about the 18-29 year old.... George II May 2019 #8
Census Bureau Survey crazytown May 2019 #19
Thanks. Their breakdown is a little different, the youngest cutoff is 24, not 29.... George II May 2019 #20
I did this poll belong to yougov marlakay May 2019 #9
Clearly the voters have NOT yet decided uawchild May 2019 #10
53% is hardly "slightly deflating" for Biden, especially when you consider his lead highplainsdem May 2019 #11
An 11% lead here isn't slightly deflating compared to 34% in other polls? uawchild May 2019 #12
No, it isn't. He's still the clear frontrunner. The only reason the others are closer highplainsdem May 2019 #13
We can agree to disagree, but you deserve Kudos uawchild May 2019 #16
"maybe, just maybe, their candidate might not be the 2020 nominee." TwilightZone May 2019 #18
A lot of folks have decided DownriverDem May 2019 #17
There is only one vote per person LibFarmer May 2019 #22
That's very interesting. Thank you. n/t Laelth May 2019 #21
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
1. Biden is even leading with a majority of millennials?
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:47 AM
May 2019

That’s really good news for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
2. He's leading among the 30-44 age group, which would include the older half of millennials (23-38 yo)
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:55 AM
May 2019

Biden 42%, Sanders 41%, Warren 35%, Buttigieg and Harris both 31%, Booker 21%, O'Rourke 19%, Castro and Klobuchar both 10%, all others single digits for that age group.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
3. The older millennials are the ones most likely to vote.
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:57 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. Thanks for sharing the data.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:03 AM
May 2019

Considering the range mentioned in your follow up, it doesn’t necessarily mean he is leading older half of millennials. It’s probably safe to say it’s at least close. 39-44 in the group you mention might be what puts him over in that wider age group.

Again, thanks for the additional info.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
7. I agree that's possible. We don't have an exact breakdown by age.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:13 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
14. 55 and up
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:47 AM
May 2019

are moving from trump to Biden. Biden/Harris would be an excellent ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ananda

(28,860 posts)
4. I know.
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:57 AM
May 2019

This is looking good for Biden and Dems !!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
6. At the moment it looks like 4 tiers there for the top candidates:
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:08 AM
May 2019

Biden
Sanders / Warren / Harris / Buttigieg
Booker / O'Rourke
Castro / Klobuchar

This is pretty close to what Nate Silver found:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/biden-is-way-out-in-front-second-place-is-anyones-guess/


Nate’s not-to-be-taken-too-seriously presidential tiers

For the Democratic nomination, as revised on April 30, 2019
Tier Sub-tier Candidates
1 a Biden
b [this row intentionally left blank]
c Harris ↓, Sanders ↓, Buttigieg ↓, Warren ↑
2 a O’Rourke
b Booker, Klobuchar, Abrams*
3 a Yang, Castro, Gillibrand, Inslee
b Hickenlooper, Bennet*, Ryan, Bullock*, Gabbard ↑

* Candidate is not yet officially running but is reasonably likely to do so.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
15. Biden/Harris
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:49 AM
May 2019

We have never had a woman VP. Then Harris would be aligned to become President. Americans are so behind when it comes to women leaders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Interesting poll (lots to wade through), thanks. Some like to talk about the 18-29 year old....
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:26 AM
May 2019

....age group, not noting that they have had the lowest turnout of all the age groups. I wish pollsters would take that into account in their summaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
19. Census Bureau Survey
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:14 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Thanks. Their breakdown is a little different, the youngest cutoff is 24, not 29....
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:49 PM
May 2019

....that many pollsters use.

Younger voters have consistently had the lowest turnout, look at how the turnout increases as the ages increase.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marlakay

(11,465 posts)
9. I did this poll belong to yougov
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:47 AM
May 2019

For over 10 years. They asked which party then if you were strong democrat, race, age, if you were definitely going to vote in primary, zip code for state, which candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
10. Clearly the voters have NOT yet decided
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:06 AM
May 2019

And that's a good thing.

The candidates have not yet fully stated their positions and no face to face debates have been held. Voters don't have enough information to base an informed decision on.

One good or bad debate performance can shake up voter opinion when the candidates are as closely packed as this.

There is no other way to spin this:

This is slightly deflating for Biden and a shot in the arm for Booker, Buttigieg, Harris, Sanders and Warren.

These poll results also sorta mirror the Party Leadership Endorsements that 538 has been tracking, where no one single candidate has broken away from the pack.

The 2020 Endorsement Primary (by 538)
Which Democratic candidates are receiving the most support from prominent members of their party?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-endorsements/democratic-primary/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
11. 53% is hardly "slightly deflating" for Biden, especially when you consider his lead
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:16 AM
May 2019

among black, white, and Hispanic voters, and among all age groups but the youngest.

The second-tier results do show how close Warren, Harris and Buttigieg are to Sanders.


Editing to add that I suppose you could say the results are a shot in the arm for all the candidates above single digits, because asking the people responding to list more than one choice will show more support for candidates who seem shut out by the frontrunners in polls where people give only one choice of candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
12. An 11% lead here isn't slightly deflating compared to 34% in other polls?
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:26 AM
May 2019

C'mon man.

This poll was interesting in that it asked responders to list ALL the candidates they were giving serious consideration to. They weren't forced by the poll to just give a single choice.

This poll clearly shows that voters have not yet made up there minds and that 5 candidates are bunched up in terms of voter consideration. Your OP shows this!

Biden 53%

Sanders 42%

Warren 41%

Harris 39%

Buttigieg 36%

Perhaps Biden supporters need to join the rest of us in considering the SLIGHTEST possibility that maybe, just maybe, their candidate might not be the 2020 nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
13. No, it isn't. He's still the clear frontrunner. The only reason the others are closer
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:36 AM
May 2019

is that this poll is taking into account people's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. choices as well.

Perhaps Biden supporters need to join the rest of us in considering the SLIGHTEST possibility that maybe, just maybe, their candidate might not be the 2020 nominee.


I haven't seen any Biden supporter suggest that his getting the nomination is inevitable.

I have seen a lot of supporters of other candidates reacting negatively to his lead in the early polls and sniping at his supporters who post about it. Even though, as I've said elsewhere, they'd be posting about any lead or surge in the polls for their favorites.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
16. We can agree to disagree, but you deserve Kudos
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:50 AM
May 2019

Thanks for discussing this with me, I think we both made our points and I must commend you for going even further and making this statement:

"I have seen a lot of supporters of other candidates reacting negatively to his lead in the early polls and sniping at his supporters who post about it. Even though, as I've said elsewhere, they'd be posting about any lead or surge in the polls for their favorites."


Yes, the price of prominence is that the current perceived front runner gets the most negative attention. As you have stated, this would happen no matter who was leading at this point in the primary cycle.

The only thing I would point out is that Biden supporters also are sniping at supporters of other candidates. It's a two way street.

Thanks for the discussion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
18. "maybe, just maybe, their candidate might not be the 2020 nominee."
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:07 PM
May 2019

The only people I've seen making the "inevitable" argument are supporters of candidates other than Biden. I personally haven't seen any Biden supporters make that argument or anything even in the ballpark.

It's a similar situation to 2016 - those making the argument about Clinton were pretty obviously not Clinton supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
17. A lot of folks have decided
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:06 PM
May 2019

they want a candidate that can beat trump. Most of the Dem candidates have great ideas, but I don't think they can beat trump. Nothing in Biden's past compares with trump. Foreign leaders begged him to run. He can beat trump. He won't take trump's crap. trump does not want to run against Biden. trump needs Pennsylvania. Biden can win Pennsylvania. He was born and raised in Pennsylvania and they will support a native son. Biden has a close relationship with blue collar workers. They will support him because they know how much trump has screwed him. Now the other day we see that voters 55 and up are moving to Biden. It's all about the numbers. I would love to see a Biden/Harris ticket. She would then be aligned to be President. Many Americans are way behind when it comes to women leaders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
22. There is only one vote per person
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:57 PM
May 2019

So second tier votes are not significant unless people's top choice disappears.

It only shows that the second choice of most is vacillating and Sanders is not even a clear second choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. That's very interesting. Thank you. n/t
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:51 PM
May 2019

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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