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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
Fri May 10, 2019, 10:57 AM May 2019

Pick Kamala Harris for VP should Joe Biden be the Nominee....Why???

As Nicole Wallace pointed out on her show recently....Trump is afraid of the crowd sizes she generates. That Kamala Harris does indeed speak truth to power and would generate such momentum and crowds.


President Donald Trump likes to dismiss polls and judge popularity by crowd size ― to the point of inflating his own numbers. And that, said MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace, may be why the Democratic candidate he fears most isn’t former Vice President Joe Biden.

It’s Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who kicked off her campaign earlier this year in front of a massive crowd of 20,000 people in Oakland.
“Her crowds spooked him,” Wallace said.
“In Trump’s mind, that’s the measure, that’s the poll,” Axios reporter Jonathan Swan said on “Deadline: White House.” “Crowds don’t lie.”

Nicole Wallace also points out that Trump, Pence, or anyone else has not gone on any personal attacks of her. That Trump fears her perhaps more than he may Joe Biden. For him to attack Kamala Harris like he did Hillary Clinton, will surely turn off the Independents Trump seems to need in addition to his base to win re-election in 2020.


[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-kamala-harris_n_5cd4f885e4b054da4e868466|

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Pick Kamala Harris for VP should Joe Biden be the Nominee....Why??? (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 OP
I like Pete. LakeArenal May 2019 #1
Biden will make the same calculation that Obama made. rogue emissary May 2019 #2
Biden is the white guy for the Donny voters. marylandblue May 2019 #4
Again if any candidate is running to get the Donny voter. rogue emissary May 2019 #9
I concur with this notion tymorial May 2019 #26
"Harris would be the best choice if Biden is the nominee" mitch96 May 2019 #36
Thumbs up for this scenario Politicub May 2019 #49
But its the reverse this time. And the reverse is likely to happen if he gets it. oldsoftie May 2019 #5
The Donny voter won't accept a woman, POC or gay candidate. rogue emissary May 2019 #7
There are many "donnie voters" who voted for Obama. About 10%. Another 10 stayed home. oldsoftie May 2019 #20
i want the people who voted obama one time then trump another time to take a personality test... samnsara May 2019 #24
I agree, but they're out there! And they can be swayed ! oldsoftie May 2019 #38
They voted for Obama because he picked a guy to be his running mate. rogue emissary May 2019 #40
Abrams makes sense as it puts Georgia in play. Demsrule86 May 2019 #13
+1 Celerity May 2019 #35
She is great. Demsrule86 May 2019 #45
Exactly. Merlot May 2019 #10
Waste of her talent? It makes her the next presidential candidate in four or eight years. Demsrule86 May 2019 #15
Doesn't make her the automatic candidate Merlot May 2019 #17
How do people not see this? oldsoftie May 2019 #21
I don't know. Demsrule86 May 2019 #46
I can see him wanting her, but I can see her turning it down for AG instead. marylandblue May 2019 #19
So knowing he only has 4 years in him and she would be the obvious successor tymorial May 2019 #28
i dont think he will this time... samnsara May 2019 #25
It would be way, way more important to stoke excitement and voter turnout... SKKY May 2019 #37
That's ridiculous. Cha May 2019 #43
Why? crazytown May 2019 #3
Didn't Trump recently call her "nasty?" WeekiWater May 2019 #6
It's like 2016 crazytown May 2019 #8
Yep. WeekiWater May 2019 #11
It is different this time... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #14
from the first day this is the ticket i have wanted.... samnsara May 2019 #29
There's a Cha May 2019 #44
I'd love to see that FakeNoose May 2019 #12
Biden - Harris is my pick! TruckFump May 2019 #16
I support Harris for President, not VP Merlot May 2019 #18
But what if Biden/Harris is the ticket? oldsoftie May 2019 #22
My guess is it won't be. Merlot May 2019 #47
If Kamala is chosen as our Party's nominee, I'd be proud and happy to support her FakeNoose May 2019 #34
I think Kamala is quick witted enough to dish it out & take it as well. oldsoftie May 2019 #39
Harris can take what ever they dish out Merlot May 2019 #48
Yes I'm sure she can take it FakeNoose May 2019 #53
we all need to put a very loud bug in his ear this is who we want for his running mate... samnsara May 2019 #30
this has been my dream team pick from day 1 samnsara May 2019 #23
Joe Biden why? Pretty obvious. beachbum bob May 2019 #27
just the sound of this calms me samnsara May 2019 #31
Don't forget snowybirdie May 2019 #32
She regrets that position she took.... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #33
Sarah Palin's babysitter obnoxiousdrunk May 2019 #51
If Harris leaves the Senate, a California Democrat could take her place. I'd hate to lose her as AG, NBachers May 2019 #41
I don't think she brings much to the table for it to be a madville May 2019 #42
I agree. People just want to "check off boxes" with the VP Merlot May 2019 #50
She would be second line to the presidency is God forbid something were to hPpen Dream Girl May 2019 #52
I tend to agree, Presidential candidates are too invested in their own runs to play 2nd fiddle Baclava May 2019 #54
I like Biden/Harris Gothmog May 2019 #55
 

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
2. Biden will make the same calculation that Obama made.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:01 AM
May 2019

He'll pick a white guy to appease the so called get able Donny voters.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. Biden is the white guy for the Donny voters.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:11 AM
May 2019

He'll need a woman or AA to satisfy the base. Harris checks both boxes.

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rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
9. Again if any candidate is running to get the Donny voter.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:23 AM
May 2019

They are not going to go to out side the white guy model.

Just because candidates don't want to call them racist, or misogynists doesn't mean they aren't.

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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
26. I concur with this notion
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:33 PM
May 2019

Harris would be the best choice if Biden is the nominee. The fact she is competent and smart makes her aces.

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mitch96

(13,895 posts)
36. "Harris would be the best choice if Biden is the nominee"
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:52 PM
May 2019

Then Biden steps down for what ever reason after two years, Harris finishes the two years and then has 8 years if she wins elections.. .Thats 10 years of Democratic democracy.. That should be enough time to undo what that orange shit stain has done...
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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
49. Thumbs up for this scenario
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:03 AM
May 2019


On edit: with Buttigieg as an agency floater or VP after Biden steps down. As a floater, he could hold a leadership position for a period of time across all government agencies. His brain works like a sponge, and he would get first-hand experience with running each.
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oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
5. But its the reverse this time. And the reverse is likely to happen if he gets it.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:11 AM
May 2019

Could be Harris, could be Abrahms.

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rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
7. The Donny voter won't accept a woman, POC or gay candidate.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:16 AM
May 2019

Not when they have two white guys on the Republican side.

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oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
20. There are many "donnie voters" who voted for Obama. About 10%. Another 10 stayed home.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:53 AM
May 2019

They are the ones in play. Independents win elections.

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
24. i want the people who voted obama one time then trump another time to take a personality test...
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:25 PM
May 2019

...cuz those people just dont make any sense!

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oldsoftie

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38. I agree, but they're out there! And they can be swayed !
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:24 PM
May 2019
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rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
40. They voted for Obama because he picked a guy to be his running mate.
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:27 PM
May 2019

If Obama had picked Clinton or another woman as his VP those Donny voters would have stayed home.

They didt vote for Obama as much as they voted against McCain and his decision to pick a woman.

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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
13. Abrams makes sense as it puts Georgia in play.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:29 AM
May 2019
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Merlot

(9,696 posts)
10. Exactly.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:25 AM
May 2019

I see no indication that Biden would pick Harris vor VP, nor do I think she would accept the offer. It's a waste of her talent to pick her because she "checks off boxes" and that's not why she's in this.

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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
15. Waste of her talent? It makes her the next presidential candidate in four or eight years.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:31 AM
May 2019
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Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. Doesn't make her the automatic candidate
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:35 AM
May 2019

even IF Biden actually wins. Yes, waiting around 4 or 8 years for the chance to be the candidate is a waste of time. She is proving she can run for president on her own.

The only VP in recent history that won was GHWB, and he was a one-termer. Nothing is assured.

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oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
21. How do people not see this?
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:55 AM
May 2019
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
19. I can see him wanting her, but I can see her turning it down for AG instead.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:42 AM
May 2019
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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
28. So knowing he only has 4 years in him and she would be the obvious successor
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:35 PM
May 2019

Isnt incentive. If she wants to be president and doesnt win the nomination then she is looking to the future. Being the VP provides that.

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
25. i dont think he will this time...
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:27 PM
May 2019
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SKKY

(11,805 posts)
37. It would be way, way more important to stoke excitement and voter turnout...
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:10 PM
May 2019

...than to try and pick off Donny voters. Remember, we only have to overcome 77,740 votes. That was the difference. I can't say it enough. We get solid voter turnout and we're good. Not great. Not Obama-like. Just good solid turnout. Kamala Harris fulfills all of those. I really, really like Pete, Beto, and I think Amy is not getting enough of the traction she deserves. But Kamala would be the logical choice. Even if I would pay a literal shit-ton of money to see Pete debate Pence.

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Cha

(297,196 posts)
43. That's ridiculous.
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:38 PM
May 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
3. Why?
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:06 AM
May 2019

Because Biden is a law and order hawk, and Kamala fits right in.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
6. Didn't Trump recently call her "nasty?"
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:15 AM
May 2019

“Nicole Wallace also points out that Trump, Pence, or anyone else has not gone on any personal attacks of her.”

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
8. It's like 2016
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:22 AM
May 2019

Trump goes after his most immediate opponent, picking them off, one by one.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
11. Yep.
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:26 AM
May 2019

In 2018 Harris was kicking their ass all over the place in a hearing and the WH went on a full assault against her.

Look at how disgusting their attacks got.


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There is no stoop too low for them.
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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
14. It is different this time...
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:30 AM
May 2019

Because of the damage done to the Principles and Ideals of our Constitution. A Biden/Harris ticket will point that out that our Democracy is at stake. Trump fears such a ticket. His base is not enough to win with and he knows it. Biden/Harris will pick off the Independents and those reviled by Trump and his corruption.

Respect for the Rule of Law and the Constitution will survive. I am hopeful.

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
29. from the first day this is the ticket i have wanted....
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:36 PM
May 2019
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Cha

(297,196 posts)
44. There's a
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:44 PM
May 2019

gargantuan difference this time.. Thank You!

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FakeNoose

(32,635 posts)
12. I'd love to see that
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:28 AM
May 2019

Kamala would be an awesome choice as Joe's running mate. There's even speculation that Joe could (maybe) step down after one term and she'd be the obvious choice to run in his place.

I love it!

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TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
16. Biden - Harris is my pick!
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:32 AM
May 2019

What a great team and exactly what this nation needs.

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Merlot

(9,696 posts)
18. I support Harris for President, not VP
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:37 AM
May 2019
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oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
22. But what if Biden/Harris is the ticket?
Fri May 10, 2019, 11:56 AM
May 2019
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Merlot

(9,696 posts)
47. My guess is it won't be.
Sat May 11, 2019, 10:54 AM
May 2019
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FakeNoose

(32,635 posts)
34. If Kamala is chosen as our Party's nominee, I'd be proud and happy to support her
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:44 PM
May 2019

Here's my personal feeling about this: I would love to see a woman become President and I supported Hillary with all my heart. But I was so upset and angry to see how she was treated by the Repukes, that I truly want to never see that again. This 2020 election is going to be severely nasty in so many ways, and it would break my heart to see Kamala treated the same way Hillary was treated.

We have to find a way to get back to good, polite and honest debate in this country because the alternative is unthinkable.

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oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
39. I think Kamala is quick witted enough to dish it out & take it as well.
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:26 PM
May 2019

After Trump is gone, it'll be back to what passed as normal. Surrogates did the insulting!

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Merlot

(9,696 posts)
48. Harris can take what ever they dish out
Sat May 11, 2019, 10:59 AM
May 2019

That's one of the reasons I support her. And everyone who runs for president knows this will get ugly, that's what they sign up for. The repubs treatment of Hillary was not exceptional, their treatment of Obama wasn't exceptional, they will treat ANY democrat the same way.

There is no going backwards. Hoping that if we just pick the "right" candidate that the republicans will treat them in a civil way is just playing into their game.

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FakeNoose

(32,635 posts)
53. Yes I'm sure she can take it
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:12 PM
May 2019

I just don't want to witness that kind of behavior from the GOP - or any political party - ever again!

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
30. we all need to put a very loud bug in his ear this is who we want for his running mate...
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:37 PM
May 2019

..assuming shes ok with it...

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
23. this has been my dream team pick from day 1
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:24 PM
May 2019
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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
27. Joe Biden why? Pretty obvious.
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:33 PM
May 2019

America needs calm maturity to overcome the trump chaos. Harris is my VP choice for him.

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
31. just the sound of this calms me
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:38 PM
May 2019
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snowybirdie

(5,226 posts)
32. Don't forget
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:39 PM
May 2019

Nicole Wallace is a never Trump Republican. Remember she was Sarah Palin's babysitter? Why listen to her advice on who the Democratic Party chooses?

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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
33. She regrets that position she took....
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:42 PM
May 2019

Sarah Palin is no longer relevant as she is as obscure and forgotten as a used Tampon. Palin is a joke that should have never been elevated in the first place.

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obnoxiousdrunk

(2,910 posts)
51. Sarah Palin's babysitter
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:33 AM
May 2019

who ended up not voting for her.

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NBachers

(17,108 posts)
41. If Harris leaves the Senate, a California Democrat could take her place. I'd hate to lose her as AG,
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:45 PM
May 2019

but before we appoint a cabinet, we have to win the Presidential race. I think Biden - Harris is the strongest ticket.

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madville

(7,410 posts)
42. I don't think she brings much to the table for it to be a
Fri May 10, 2019, 03:07 PM
May 2019

Net positive in swing states. No one really cares about her being somewhat popular in California, that could be seen as a liability in some crucial states.


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Merlot

(9,696 posts)
50. I agree. People just want to "check off boxes" with the VP
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:04 AM
May 2019

It's not going to work. And Harris does not seem like the type to take a consulation prize job, she's way to assertive to play second fiddle.

Some people think it's fine time for a woman as VP. How progressive of them.

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Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
52. She would be second line to the presidency is God forbid something were to hPpen
Sat May 11, 2019, 12:51 PM
May 2019

I don’t even think Biden really even wants this. He is trying to save outrage collective asses. It’s not out of the question that she could end up being president before the end of his term

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
54. I tend to agree, Presidential candidates are too invested in their own runs to play 2nd fiddle
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:22 PM
May 2019

and winning candidates dont pick strong personalities that could overshadow their own aspirations and share the stage in their run for president

They pick VPs that will agree with what they want

'Dream tickets' never work in real life

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