Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumPick Kamala Harris for VP should Joe Biden be the Nominee....Why???
As Nicole Wallace pointed out on her show recently....Trump is afraid of the crowd sizes she generates. That Kamala Harris does indeed speak truth to power and would generate such momentum and crowds.
President Donald Trump likes to dismiss polls and judge popularity by crowd size ― to the point of inflating his own numbers. And that, said MSNBCs Nicolle Wallace, may be why the Democratic candidate he fears most isnt former Vice President Joe Biden.
Its Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), who kicked off her campaign earlier this year in front of a massive crowd of 20,000 people in Oakland.
Her crowds spooked him, Wallace said.
In Trumps mind, thats the measure, thats the poll, Axios reporter Jonathan Swan said on Deadline: White House. Crowds dont lie.
Nicole Wallace also points out that Trump, Pence, or anyone else has not gone on any personal attacks of her. That Trump fears her perhaps more than he may Joe Biden. For him to attack Kamala Harris like he did Hillary Clinton, will surely turn off the Independents Trump seems to need in addition to his base to win re-election in 2020.
[link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-kamala-harris_n_5cd4f885e4b054da4e868466|
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)He'll pick a white guy to appease the so called get able Donny voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)He'll need a woman or AA to satisfy the base. Harris checks both boxes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)They are not going to go to out side the white guy model.
Just because candidates don't want to call them racist, or misogynists doesn't mean they aren't.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Harris would be the best choice if Biden is the nominee. The fact she is competent and smart makes her aces.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mitch96
(13,895 posts)Then Biden steps down for what ever reason after two years, Harris finishes the two years and then has 8 years if she wins elections.. .Thats 10 years of Democratic democracy.. That should be enough time to undo what that orange shit stain has done...
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)On edit: with Buttigieg as an agency floater or VP after Biden steps down. As a floater, he could hold a leadership position for a period of time across all government agencies. His brain works like a sponge, and he would get first-hand experience with running each.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Could be Harris, could be Abrahms.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Not when they have two white guys on the Republican side.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)They are the ones in play. Independents win elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)...cuz those people just dont make any sense!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)If Obama had picked Clinton or another woman as his VP those Donny voters would have stayed home.
They didt vote for Obama as much as they voted against McCain and his decision to pick a woman.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)I see no indication that Biden would pick Harris vor VP, nor do I think she would accept the offer. It's a waste of her talent to pick her because she "checks off boxes" and that's not why she's in this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)even IF Biden actually wins. Yes, waiting around 4 or 8 years for the chance to be the candidate is a waste of time. She is proving she can run for president on her own.
The only VP in recent history that won was GHWB, and he was a one-termer. Nothing is assured.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Isnt incentive. If she wants to be president and doesnt win the nomination then she is looking to the future. Being the VP provides that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SKKY
(11,805 posts)...than to try and pick off Donny voters. Remember, we only have to overcome 77,740 votes. That was the difference. I can't say it enough. We get solid voter turnout and we're good. Not great. Not Obama-like. Just good solid turnout. Kamala Harris fulfills all of those. I really, really like Pete, Beto, and I think Amy is not getting enough of the traction she deserves. But Kamala would be the logical choice. Even if I would pay a literal shit-ton of money to see Pete debate Pence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Because Biden is a law and order hawk, and Kamala fits right in.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Nicole Wallace also points out that Trump, Pence, or anyone else has not gone on any personal attacks of her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Trump goes after his most immediate opponent, picking them off, one by one.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
In 2018 Harris was kicking their ass all over the place in a hearing and the WH went on a full assault against her.
Look at how disgusting their attacks got.
Link to tweet
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There is no stoop too low for them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)Because of the damage done to the Principles and Ideals of our Constitution. A Biden/Harris ticket will point that out that our Democracy is at stake. Trump fears such a ticket. His base is not enough to win with and he knows it. Biden/Harris will pick off the Independents and those reviled by Trump and his corruption.
Respect for the Rule of Law and the Constitution will survive. I am hopeful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)gargantuan difference this time.. Thank You!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FakeNoose
(32,635 posts)Kamala would be an awesome choice as Joe's running mate. There's even speculation that Joe could (maybe) step down after one term and she'd be the obvious choice to run in his place.
I love it!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)What a great team and exactly what this nation needs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FakeNoose
(32,635 posts)Here's my personal feeling about this: I would love to see a woman become President and I supported Hillary with all my heart. But I was so upset and angry to see how she was treated by the Repukes, that I truly want to never see that again. This 2020 election is going to be severely nasty in so many ways, and it would break my heart to see Kamala treated the same way Hillary was treated.
We have to find a way to get back to good, polite and honest debate in this country because the alternative is unthinkable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)After Trump is gone, it'll be back to what passed as normal. Surrogates did the insulting!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)That's one of the reasons I support her. And everyone who runs for president knows this will get ugly, that's what they sign up for. The repubs treatment of Hillary was not exceptional, their treatment of Obama wasn't exceptional, they will treat ANY democrat the same way.
There is no going backwards. Hoping that if we just pick the "right" candidate that the republicans will treat them in a civil way is just playing into their game.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FakeNoose
(32,635 posts)I just don't want to witness that kind of behavior from the GOP - or any political party - ever again!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..assuming shes ok with it...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)America needs calm maturity to overcome the trump chaos. Harris is my VP choice for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,226 posts)Nicole Wallace is a never Trump Republican. Remember she was Sarah Palin's babysitter? Why listen to her advice on who the Democratic Party chooses?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)Sarah Palin is no longer relevant as she is as obscure and forgotten as a used Tampon. Palin is a joke that should have never been elevated in the first place.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)who ended up not voting for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NBachers
(17,108 posts)but before we appoint a cabinet, we have to win the Presidential race. I think Biden - Harris is the strongest ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madville
(7,410 posts)Net positive in swing states. No one really cares about her being somewhat popular in California, that could be seen as a liability in some crucial states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)It's not going to work. And Harris does not seem like the type to take a consulation prize job, she's way to assertive to play second fiddle.
Some people think it's fine time for a woman as VP. How progressive of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)I dont even think Biden really even wants this. He is trying to save outrage collective asses. Its not out of the question that she could end up being president before the end of his term
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)and winning candidates dont pick strong personalities that could overshadow their own aspirations and share the stage in their run for president
They pick VPs that will agree with what they want
'Dream tickets' never work in real life
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden