'A dream ticket': Black lawmakers pitch Biden-Harris to beat Trump

[brooklynite]

Politico

The Congressional Black Caucus may have found an answer to its Joe Biden dilemma: Vice President Kamala Harris.

Some black lawmakers are agonizing over whether to back Biden or two members of the close-knit caucus — Sens. Harris and Cory Booker — who are also vying for the White House, according to interviews with a dozen CBC members.

But with the former vice president jumping out to a huge, if early, lead in the polls, several CBC members are warming to the idea of a Biden-Harris ticket to take on President Donald Trump.

“That would be a dream ticket for me, a dream ticket!” said Rep. Lacy Clay (D-Mo.). “If she is not the nominee, that would be a dream ticket for this country.”

[beachbum bob]

1. many of us brought this up weeks ago, this is the winning ticket for

democrats....by far

[Cosmocat]

4. It is

Biden is about my 5th personal pick.

But, I have told people all along he was going to have a lot of support, and said the monster ticket would be him and Harris back when it was being floated out that he was looking at Abrams as his VP choice.

[DownriverDem]

11. Remember

Folks are telling pollsters that they just want a candidate that can beat trump.

[crazytown]

2. This is so disrespectful

[still_one]

5. You are right, and I think this may be going over the heads of some people. It is insulting to

Kamala Harris, writing her off as a potential presidential contender.

We haven't even got a nominee yet.

[beachbum bob]

7. nothing insulting, she would be the choice for a VP under most scenarios,

[DownriverDem]

10. Maybe but,

nominees have been known to really being running for VP.

[highplainsdem]

16. Oh, please. You really think the CBC would be "disrespectful" of black candidates?

This isn't the tiniest bit disrespectful. This is about the ticket many in the CBC think would be a dream ticket if Joe Biden is the nominee. And with him far in the lead now, this sort of speculation is perfectly natural.

I doubt Kamala Harris finds it disrespectful. It's actually very flattering for any candidate who ISN'T the frontrunner if more and more people would like her, or him, on the ticket as VP if the current frontrunner becomes the nominee for president.

[crazytown]

17. Some candidates are in the contest to win.

not contestants in a beauty pageants for VP..

[USALiberal]

21. So joe should not of been obamas VP? Nt

[crazytown]

24. As I recall, Barack had the nomination tied up

The presumptive nominee can open discussions with whoever they want. Advocates for a frontrunner, year away from the nomination might as well be asking, ‘when are you going to drop out’?

Biden was a perfect fit for Obama’s campaign, bringing strength and credibility to areas where Obama was weakest: older voters, the Midwest, unions, and more generally, the white working class. Together they went on to win Indiana!

Biden is already way out from with PoC and strong with women. Harris would be an identity ornament. ‘I need a woman or PoC on the ticket Kamala, can you guess why I’m calling you first’?

The choice will be Joes. In 2008, he didn’t snap up Obama’s offer. There were days of negotiation.

[highplainsdem]

22. Sigh. Since only one can win, they're also ALL well aware that there's a possibility they'll be

asked to join the ticket as VP, if another candidate wins the presidential nomination.

And they're also ALL well aware that if they become VP, they might become president, so being selected as VP is NOT an insult. It's a tremendous vote of confidence.

They'd have to be delusional to be insulted by hearing that people think they'd be great as VP on a ticket with the current frontrunner.

Now their SUPPORTERS might be miffed, especially if they like to slam the current frontrunner as unworthy or inferior.

But if any of the candidates themselves are so narcissistic that they'd be insulted by being considered helpful to the ticket as VP, in speculation starting when another candidate is the frontrunner, then it's probably best for the party if they keep their current day job.

[crazytown]

25. You might as well be asking Kamala

‘when are you going to drop out’?

[highplainsdem]

26. No. Again, I don't think she finds this insulting, even if her supporters might have a hissy fit.

[Trenzalore]

35. Barack Obama was being floated as Hillary's VP at this time in the race in 2008

Let the race play out. Joe has a monster polling lead but there is a lot of campaigning that has to be done before we have a nominee.

[USALiberal]

20. Yes, being asked to be VP is so insulting. Nt

[Jakes Progress]

37. Who do you think would be a good VP for Warren?

[leftofcool]

3. "A Dream ticket for me"

What about how the rest of the country feels?

[TwilightZone]

6. At the moment, the rest of the country seems to be leaning toward Biden.

It's quite early, of course, but as far as the "rest of the country" goes at present, it's roughly half Biden, half the 21 others. The discussion of Biden/Harris as an option isn't out of line with the prevailing opinion.

[DownriverDem]

9. The rest of the country

just wants to be trump. Biden/Harris would be a great ticket!

[DownriverDem]

8. Been saying

the same thing for months. Biden/Harris would be a formidable ticket!

[PatSeg]

12. Same here

If Joe hadn't entered the race, Harris was at the top of my list. The two of them together would be extraordinary.

[highplainsdem]

18. She's been one of my favorites, too, for months, as I posted a couple of months ago,

in an OP about Beto where I also listed my favorite candidates because I was undecided at the time.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128721840

[PatSeg]

23. I've tried to remain uncommitted

as we have so many exceptional candidates. I didn't want to attach myself to one too early, but I am a long time supporter of Joe. I started the original Joe Biden group at DU back in 2007 and wanted him to run in 2016, though I understand why he didn't.

I really had mixed feelings about him running this time, but it appears he might be want we need right now.

[djg21]

38. And if Biden serves one term as he's stated.

Harris could run as presumptive front runner in 2024. She is young.

[PatSeg]

40. Yes, my view as well

Biden was a very hands on VP and I assume he would treat his VP the same way Obama treated him. So whoever he chose would be uniquely qualified to take over. Few people realize how much Joe did as Vice President.

[docgee]

13. Not only would it be a great ticket for now,

I can see having a democratic president for the next 16 years since Kamala would continue to be very popular.

[highplainsdem]

19. Yep.

[Trenzalore]

36. Probably 12

I don't see Joe running for re-election if he were to win.

[MineralMan]

14. I liked Harris as a VP choice after seeing her launch speech.

She has "It." She needs some more national experience, which she'd get as VP. With that, she'd be ready to become our 47th President. Seriously.

[BootinUp]

30. Agreed nt

[mtnsnake]

15. Biden/Harris would be a strong ticket. So would a Harris/Biden ticket for that matter

There are no term limits for VP, so Biden could be VP again for someone else, not that he would want to.

[underthematrix]

27. I'm an African American women and I disagree with the CBC.

Sen Harris is my senator and I love her. I want her to continue to be my senator. We are fighting for the survival of our democracy which is hanging by a very very thin thread. We have to read the tea leaves on the ground where real people perceive and navigate their world.

Never forget in 2016, 53% of white women voted for white supremacy over white excellence.

For me, it boils down to this. We have a choice between white supremacy (hate and division) or white excellence (unity and hope). I'm choosing white excellence just like I chose black excellence (unity and hope) in 2008 and 2012.

[brush]

29. So I see you're for Biden, why not Harris for VP? She'd be set for a pres. run...

if Joe steps down after one term, or even after two terms.

[underthematrix]

31. We need her in the senate. She's been fabulous in the senate.

I also think we may run into that Stacey thing again: White people (especially white women) saying they're gonna vote for the ticket because she's on it and then NOT.

[brush]

32. Stacey is strong no doubt but until her name comes more into play, I like Kamala and Joe.

California has other strong Dems who can step into the Senate—Becerra, Garcetti, Newsom even, and the woman rep. who was so effective in the House committee hearings (I forget her name).

IMO it's to big an opportunity for Harris to pass up if she ends up on the Dem ticket.

[Blue Owl]

28. That would be -- if I may -- a damn fine ticket...

[JuJuYoshida]

33. both are pure class

I would LOVE that dream ticket!

[ecstatic]

34. My "dream" ticket is Harris & Booker or the reverse.

My "reality" ticket changes daily, but for now, I'm sticking with EW. I like Biden, but he's in 5th place for me.

[demmiblue]

39. Tiffany Cross: .@KamalaHarris is not running for VP. She is running for President.

.@KamalaHarris is not running for VP. She is running for President. Imagine if media outlets at EVERY level reflected the rising majority of the country... would this be a theme??

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