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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:59 PM May 2019

Not in the mood for disrupters to heckle and disrupt our convention in Milwaukee '20!

Like those losers did all through our convention in Philly ‘16, including booing the magnificent first lady Michelle Obama. IMO, and our nominee, HRC. Any so-called delegate who shows up to disrupt in Milwaukee should be hauled off the floor and lose all privileges to act as a Democratic representative at proceedings like this in the future. The stakes are too high to turn Milwaukee into an airing of grievances the way BS’s delegates did Philly in ‘16. Remember their absolutely appalling antics at the convention on the floor that helped cost us the race?! I sure do!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
1. well, if all the rules are followed & everyone gets a fair shake maybe hard feelings will
Mon May 13, 2019, 11:07 PM
May 2019

be kept to a minimum, but I think that's wishful thinking.

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radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
2. Some will have hard feelings
Mon May 13, 2019, 11:22 PM
May 2019

no matter what because they don't like losing.

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NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
3. That was the case last time and it didn't matter to the sore losers.
Mon May 13, 2019, 11:23 PM
May 2019
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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
11. THIS! Exactly!
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:40 AM
May 2019

Thank you!

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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
5. If they lose, they will decide it is unfair...keep an eye on them a toss them out if
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:11 AM
May 2019

they start.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. Are you suggesting that the rules weren't followed? Which ones?
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:12 AM
May 2019
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Gothmog

(145,184 posts)
4. I was at Philadelphia
Mon May 13, 2019, 11:56 PM
May 2019

It was not fun.

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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
7. I certainly hope that does not occur. It defeats the purpose of a party convention.
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:29 AM
May 2019

We hold those conventions to select a nominee. At the end of the convention, we support the nominee who was selected.

Otherwise, why have a convention at all to let delegates vote according to how their state voted in its primary election?

Disruptions and heckling accomplish nothing except to create ill-will. What possible good does that do?

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mopinko

(70,099 posts)
8. yeah, bs antics at the convention
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:09 AM
May 2019

left an incredibly bad taste in my mouth.
that face, glaring at whoever was at the podium.
and trying to gin up a floor fight.

i'm w you. none of that shit this time.
if you pull that, you clearly arent really grokking what we are up against.

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Gothmog

(145,184 posts)
14. I am still mad at the booing of John Lewis
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:41 PM
May 2019
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
9. The disruptors all belonged to one candidate
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:14 AM
May 2019

and their behavior is what is making that candidate sink in polls.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
12. There will be disruptors. Russia will make sure of that. So, the question becomes...
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:11 PM
May 2019

how shall we prepare?

For anyone who needs a primer on how Russians infiltrated events in 2016, read the first half of volume 1 of the Mueller report. It's scary how a Russian operative would stoke the fire of leftist groups online, and then recruit people from them to be its disruptors events.

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Gothmog

(145,184 posts)
13. The Philadelphia National Convention was supposed to be a fun experience
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:03 PM
May 2019

I have had friends who have been to Denver, North Carolina and other national conventions and this was the once in a lifetime reward for very hard work over decades. Philadelphia was not fun

In the real world with real campaign, all national delegates are carefully vetted. One reason for this is that even pledged delegates can change this votes and vote for other candidates. The other reason for vetting is that a candidate's delegates reflects on the candidate and the campaign. I was vetted and I helped to vet other delegates.

There was evidently no or little vetting of national delegates by the sanders campaign and sanders took few if any steps to control his delegates. sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders if he runs in 2020.

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.




sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused

I am encouraged that sanders may be frozen from getting delegates in Iowa and other states such as South Carolina due to the 15% rule



The most underappreciated rule in the Democratic presidential primary race is the 15 percent threshold. To get any delegates from a congressional district in a caucus or primary, the candidate must win at least 15 percent of the vote. The same 15 percent threshold applies for at-large delegates.

Take the current RealClearPolitics poll average for Iowa. Only two candidates statewide clear the 15 percent threshold. Behind them, a candidate such as South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 11.3 percent might meet the threshold in some districts to qualify for delegates.....

What does this all mean? There may be very few candidate who get any delegates in Iowa. While a candidate such as Buttigieg or former congressman Beto O’Rourke might claim bragging rights for third place, he might not get delegates. Failure to get delegates wouldn’t necessarily doom candidates going into New Hampshire, but if the pattern repeats in New Hampshire, you’ll see lesser candidates dropping out....

Second, Sanders is languishing in a distant second place. It’s not unforeseeable that he could be passed by Buttigieg and/or Warren and denied delegates in one of the first two states. That would be disastrous for his campaign, maybe fatally so

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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
15. It's horrifying reading all these posts and being reminded it was even worse than I even remembered
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:04 PM
May 2019

We definitely can't allow this to happen again under any circumstances. It's worth noting that what happened in Philly '16 is an unprecedented event in leadership contests across the globe. You would not see this disrespect of the process in any other leadership race amongst the western democracies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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