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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:08 PM May 2019

What if Joe Biden runs away with this thing?

According to the Real Clear Politics average of national polling, Biden now has a 23.5-point lead over Bernie Sanders (and the rest of the pack). That's a massive leap for Biden from even a few weeks ago.

The most likely outcome, then, is that Biden's numbers return to earth somewhat after the initial glow of his announcement wears off. But even "returning to earth" will likely mean Biden's lead nationally is in -- at minimum -- the 10- to 15-point range. Which is still significant, especially if he continues to lead in key early states like Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

For all the focus on how many people are running, the race could effectively be over on February 3, 2020, if Biden crushes the field in the Iowa caucuses.

There are three reasons to think Biden could -- emphasis on could -- run away and hide with the nomination.
1) He's broadly liked within the party.
2) He's running very strong with black voters.
3) He doesn't have much competition for the establishment mantle.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/joe-biden-2020-democratic-nomination-donald-trump/index.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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What if Joe Biden runs away with this thing? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2019 OP
I'd say it's number 3 bloom May 2019 #1
You have to win a general in order to serve the country....the most perfect pure Demsrule86 May 2019 #20
If Biden runs away with the nomination it will be ALL GOOD! democratisphere May 2019 #2
Along with Independents. Who are the votes that win elections. oldsoftie May 2019 #8
It is really, really early in the whole process Sherman A1 May 2019 #3
What?! I've been told in post after post that the 2020 primary race is over... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #9
I don't know Sherman A1 May 2019 #14
What's the "establishment mantle" mentioned above? And how is that democratic? InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #4
"establishment" is a generic catch all word used on both ends of the spectrum. themaguffin May 2019 #12
The "establishment" is a trope used by outsiders as a fear tactic. WeekiWater May 2019 #13
establishment, like bernie, who is definitely establishment nt msongs May 2019 #16
Then let the campaign contributions stream into the mighty Biden River. oasis May 2019 #5
It's Still Very Early in the Process dlk May 2019 #6
I'll be glad if his big lead encourages some contenders to run for the Senate instead More_Cowbell May 2019 #7
Then he wins. And we move on to the GE. BlueWI May 2019 #10
I hope someone does. watoos May 2019 #11
Given our system is proportionate voting...supers often put candidates over the top... Demsrule86 May 2019 #18
He won't. PDittie May 2019 #15
All indications are he will. Demsrule86 May 2019 #19
If Biden runs away with it I'll vote for him & hope he kicks Trump's ass. CaptainTruth May 2019 #17
Maybe he will, but Cillizza isn't necessarily great at analyzing this stuff Shrek May 2019 #21
The answer to that question is simple NastyRiffraff May 2019 #22
 

bloom

(11,635 posts)
1. I'd say it's number 3
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:12 PM
May 2019

And he has apparently been getting outsized attention on cable news.

That does not mean that he is the one who would serve the country the best.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
20. You have to win a general in order to serve the country....the most perfect pure
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:29 AM
May 2019

candidate will achieve nothing if he/she can't get elected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. If Biden runs away with the nomination it will be ALL GOOD!
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:13 PM
May 2019

It means we have an extremely strong candidate most Democrats can get behind and support with their vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
8. Along with Independents. Who are the votes that win elections.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:20 PM
May 2019

I'd say Biden would get a larger share of the Independent vote than the rest of the field

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. It is really, really early in the whole process
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:14 PM
May 2019

Time will tell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
9. What?! I've been told in post after post that the 2020 primary race is over...
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:22 PM
May 2019

You're not seriously suggesting we should wait for the Democratic electorate to vote, are you?!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
14. I don't know
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:32 PM
May 2019

maybe, just maybe we should go through the motions anyway. After all what will the Breathless 24/7 Breaking Noise Infotainment Cable Networks Talking Heads have to discuss between ads for drugs we never knew we needed?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
4. What's the "establishment mantle" mentioned above? And how is that democratic?
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:18 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
12. "establishment" is a generic catch all word used on both ends of the spectrum.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:31 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
13. The "establishment" is a trope used by outsiders as a fear tactic.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:32 PM
May 2019

Often used as an excuse as to why they can’t win and to promote that they are fighting against the world.

Some like Biden don’t use such a fear tactic.

Well done pointing it out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,401 posts)
16. establishment, like bernie, who is definitely establishment nt
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:37 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,380 posts)
5. Then let the campaign contributions stream into the mighty Biden River.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:19 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dlk

(11,561 posts)
6. It's Still Very Early in the Process
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:19 PM
May 2019

And too soon to predict anything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
7. I'll be glad if his big lead encourages some contenders to run for the Senate instead
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:19 PM
May 2019

I believe that we have some people who could turn a few red or purple states blue.

We're going to need good Senate candidates, and any of them would be great in the Senate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
10. Then he wins. And we move on to the GE.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:24 PM
May 2019

Primaries come first.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. I hope someone does.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:26 PM
May 2019

I don’t want super delegates to get involved in a 2nd ballot at the convention

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
18. Given our system is proportionate voting...supers often put candidates over the top...
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:23 AM
May 2019

Obama was the clear winner but delegates put him over the top. Now if Biden wins big, this may not be needed. However the supers will vote for the winner as they always do whether on the first ballot or the second.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
19. All indications are he will.
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:25 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CaptainTruth

(6,589 posts)
17. If Biden runs away with it I'll vote for him & hope he kicks Trump's ass.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:01 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
22. The answer to that question is simple
Wed May 15, 2019, 10:51 AM
May 2019

We should all vote for Joe Biden if he's the nominee. We should all vote for the nominee, whomever it is. Period. This is no time for childish whining.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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