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pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:37 PM May 2019

Does anyone else think the R's will have an "epiphany" after Trump leaves office?


I thought they would have an epiphany right after Trump took office, and disown him, and replace him with their tea-party guy, Pence. So I obviously don't have any insight into the mind of an R.


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Sahil Kapur

@sahilkapur

In New Hampshire, Joe Biden predicts that once President Trump is out of office, Republicans will have “an epiphany” and work with Democrats toward consensus.


Sahil Kapur is a Bloomberg reporter.
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Does anyone else think the R's will have an "epiphany" after Trump leaves office? (Original Post) pnwmom May 2019 OP
of course they will....they are already planning the epiphany out lol TalenaGor May 2019 #1
I think they'll be split paulkienitz May 2019 #2
If the epiphany is triggered by a jail sentence C_U_L8R May 2019 #3
Nonsense Loge23 May 2019 #4
Yep, Joe's just dreaming. All the pubs who have had epiphanies quit the pub party Nay May 2019 #13
Not as long gaiadiversity May 2019 #5
"Think of me as the Grim Reaper" dalton99a May 2019 #9
Hell no thegoose May 2019 #6
Hell 2 the no. Efilroft Sul May 2019 #14
The R's have one job & one job only, to destroy Democracy. They would be glad to work with yaesu May 2019 #7
Yes, they definitely will have an epiphany if a Dem wins Raven123 May 2019 #8
No that are irredeemable and corrupt. kimbutgar May 2019 #10
No PDittie May 2019 #11
Almost all of them are beyond redemption. nt hay rick May 2019 #12
I think Republicans will find Biden very pleasant to work with. Demit May 2019 #15
Yeah, I'm afraid so. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #19
There's something kind of ugly to the epiphany claim loyalsister May 2019 #23
I think that's a definite subtext. Demit May 2019 #24
I don't think they will. The repubs will spend the 2 years after 45 leaves AJT May 2019 #16
I don't see that happening. BobMcWan May 2019 #17
It's true. Ever since Reagan, their big idea is that government is the problem, pnwmom May 2019 #20
No. They will look for another Trump. Sneederbunk May 2019 #18
sure thing, Joe Celerity May 2019 #21
Their base are assholes Trenzalore May 2019 #22
Just the opposite. aikoaiko May 2019 #25
no. rampartc May 2019 #26
I guessing Biden's using the word 'epiphany' in place of 'excuse' to give the right some wiggle room LanternWaste May 2019 #27
I do not. Their base won't allow it. n/t Laelth May 2019 #28
Hell no, BUT I think it was a smart move for Biden to predict it mtnsnake May 2019 #29
Hell no. If anything they will be worse with a Dem in office. They found that they can get away Autumn May 2019 #30
They might be a little less awful comradebillyboy May 2019 #31
 

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
1. of course they will....they are already planning the epiphany out lol
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:40 PM
May 2019
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paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
2. I think they'll be split
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:41 PM
May 2019

Half of them will still be diehard deplorables, but a lot of the rest might well epiphanize.

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C_U_L8R

(45,035 posts)
3. If the epiphany is triggered by a jail sentence
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:42 PM
May 2019

Then sure, why not. But I really doubt these dumbshits will ever learn their lesson.

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Loge23

(3,922 posts)
4. Nonsense
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:44 PM
May 2019

The republican party is comprised of the worst of our country.
They're all-of-a-sudden going to change?

No offense to Joe, but he's living in the past.

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Nay

(12,051 posts)
13. Yep, Joe's just dreaming. All the pubs who have had epiphanies quit the pub party
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:14 PM
May 2019

a few years ago. The rest are deplorable.

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gaiadiversity

(60 posts)
5. Not as long
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:45 PM
May 2019

as McTurtleFace is around...

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dalton99a

(81,700 posts)
9. "Think of me as the Grim Reaper"
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:51 PM
May 2019

“If I’m still the majority leader of the Senate after next year, none of those things are going to pass the Senate. They won’t even be voted on. So think of me as the Grim Reaper: the guy who is going to make sure that socialism doesn’t land on the president’s desk.”
- Mitch McConnell, April 2019

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thegoose

(3,115 posts)
6. Hell no
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:45 PM
May 2019

With or without Dump, they're evil and corrupt.

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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
7. The R's have one job & one job only, to destroy Democracy. They would be glad to work with
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:48 PM
May 2019

any Dems who help them do it (remember chained CPI?). I'm hoping there are no candidates that stupid.

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Raven123

(4,931 posts)
8. Yes, they definitely will have an epiphany if a Dem wins
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:51 PM
May 2019

They will rediscover a need to balance the budget, decry the the evil dictators in N. Korea, And Turkey, demand we get tough on Russia, and demand “free trade” with China.

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kimbutgar

(21,270 posts)
10. No that are irredeemable and corrupt.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:59 PM
May 2019

This current crop needs to be voted out and put in the dustbin of history.

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hay rick

(7,662 posts)
12. Almost all of them are beyond redemption. nt
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:13 PM
May 2019
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Demit

(11,238 posts)
15. I think Republicans will find Biden very pleasant to work with.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:18 PM
May 2019

"...Nothing epitomizes Biden’s politics better than the speech he gave in 2011 at the University of Louisville’s McConnell Center, named after the Republican Senate Minority Leader who had at that point just finished up historically routing Biden and the administration he served. McConnell, who had candidly admitted his top goal was making sure Obama was “a one-term president” unless he did the GOP’s bidding, had turned a sixty-vote Democratic supermajority into an unavoidable necessity, stifling Obama’s legislative agenda and even slowing economic recovery to produce the Democrats’ “shellacking” in 2010. He then used this as leverage to get one of the most lopsided legislative “deals” in memory, trading the extension of unemployment insurance for the continuation of tax cuts for the rich, a markedly lower estate tax, and other giveaways that infuriated Democrats.

Three months later, Biden warmly celebrated McConnell and his success at having crushed the Democrats at their moment of historically rare political power. He painted the tax giveaway, which House Democrats angrily rebelled against and even Obama compared to negotiating with hostage-takers, as a textbook example of effective bipartisan compromise. And he reminded the audience about the essential unity of those who ran the government: whether they were liberal or conservative, Tea Party or Blue Dog, “they all ran for office because they love their country” and “because we basically all agree on the nature of the problems we face.”
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/04/joe-biden-2020-presidential-campaign-record

The above is from a Jacobin piece, but it's loaded with links to other, mainstream, publications.

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pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
19. Yeah, I'm afraid so. n/t
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:18 PM
May 2019
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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
23. There's something kind of ugly to the epiphany claim
Wed May 15, 2019, 12:12 PM
May 2019

None of this would have happened if we had stayed the course, and they'll be reasonable if they get back to negotiating with a white man.
Return to normalcy feels like a cry for kind and friendly white male supremacy.

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Demit

(11,238 posts)
24. I think that's a definite subtext.
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:06 PM
May 2019

He's indicating that he knows Republicans want to return not just to pre-Trump times—that would only mean the Obama years, which were not happy ones for Republicans—he's saying they'll be happy because he represents pre-Obama times.

The guy is telling us who he is.

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AJT

(5,240 posts)
16. I don't think they will. The repubs will spend the 2 years after 45 leaves
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:19 PM
May 2019

calling for investigations and spewing lies. It has worked in the past and may work again. Besides they may easily hold onto the Senate.

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BobMcWan

(18 posts)
17. I don't see that happening.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:21 PM
May 2019

The only epiphany they likely will have will be something along the lines of "Holy Cow! We got away with electing HIM as our distraction attraction machine. Maybe we COULD just put Kid Rock up for our candidate and win another round of tax cuts. May as well drown government in that bathtub sooner rather than later."
Maybe Joe knows the outlier Republican or two with firing synapses capable of empathy but my perception is Republicans don't want government to work, and I see no reason to seek consensus with saboteurs of democracy. Name them, shame them, vote them out. Stop with the consensus seeking and start staking out policy.

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pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
20. It's true. Ever since Reagan, their big idea is that government is the problem,
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:19 PM
May 2019

and there is no such thing as good government.

And they set out each session to prove it.

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Sneederbunk

(14,319 posts)
18. No. They will look for another Trump.
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:00 PM
May 2019
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
22. Their base are assholes
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:36 PM
May 2019

They looked at 15-16 other people and determined Trump was their guy. Who the hell thinks they are going to have a heart change.

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aikoaiko

(34,186 posts)
25. Just the opposite.
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:26 PM
May 2019
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rampartc

(5,455 posts)
26. no.
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:39 PM
May 2019

trump is taking them to the promised land. when orange moses is gone they will find someone even more deplorable to lead them.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
27. I guessing Biden's using the word 'epiphany' in place of 'excuse' to give the right some wiggle room
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:43 PM
May 2019
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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
28. I do not. Their base won't allow it. n/t
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:51 PM
May 2019

-Laelth

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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
29. Hell no, BUT I think it was a smart move for Biden to predict it
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:21 PM
May 2019

because his message was a message of hope combined with the notion that Trump will be gone soon ("out of office&quot .

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
30. Hell no. If anything they will be worse with a Dem in office. They found that they can get away
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:26 PM
May 2019

doing what they do and the media covers for them. Joe must have slept through the Obama years.

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comradebillyboy

(10,184 posts)
31. They might be a little less awful
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:28 PM
May 2019

Trump brings out the worst in people.

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