Democratic Primaries
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PoliticoBiden is opposing where the center of energy is in the Democratic Party, Justice Democrats communications director Waleed Shahid said.
I think theres going to be a lot less air in the room than it looks like for Biden. The reality is that Bidens time is passed, predicted Democracy for America chairman Charles Chamberlain.
Were in a new moment. This is not Joe Bidens moment, Progressive Change Campaign Committee co-founder Adam Green said.
But it was Joe Bidens moment, and it sure still seems to be Joe Bidens moment. He has dominated the polls since he entered the race last month. Before Biden announced, he was at a measly 29 percent in the Real Clear Politics average of national polls, only 6 percentage points ahead of progressive favorite Bernie Sanders, who not all that long ago looked like a genuine co-front-runner. Since then, Biden has surged to 40 percent, kicking Sanders down to the mid-teens. In the past week, Biden has posted intimidating double-digit leads in polls from the early-contest states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. His dominance of the Democratic Partys moderate wing has helped stall the rise of Mayor Pete Buttigieg while also squeezing the ability of candidates like Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris from positioning themselves as more viable progressive alternatives to Sanders.
Considering their performance in 2018...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)but you know who really has energy when it comes to voting?
Older people. They come out every single time. They come out in the greatest numbers. They are the most reliable.
So, until young people figure that out and start duplicating it, then they will always be in this position of thinking they are more important than they are, and seeing their influence never quite be enough to change things in their direction.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts).....and the 18-29 age group historically has the lowest turnout.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)There are always older people voting. Every time.
The only exception is when I early voted for Obama in 2008. The line went for more than a block and was filled with people from all walks of life. I still well with tears when I think about the African American families in that line along with so many others.
I would love to feel that level of excitement, and yes, hope, again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)The one about real and fake Republicans, with the real one getting chosen every time? Well, it looks like there's some truth in it. The real Democrat dropped a hammer and that was all she wrote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,953 posts)are so high hes a loyal Democrat with very deep ties within the party.
As a pundit said yesterday (actually, I think it was Chris Matthews...?) an unhyphenated Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,953 posts)Biden is opposing where the center of energy is in the Democratic Party.
Reality is that Justice Democrats are opposing where the Democratic Party is. Their dismal track record over time is proof. Yesterday there was a spox on MSNBC very concerned about Bidens lead. Awww.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I hope the servers are in good shape because it's going to be a very busy day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,953 posts)Caps Lock action, all finally spilling the TRUTH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thanks, RB!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)A candidate open to their view won in two districts that were already deep blue and very progressive. Otherwise they got wiped out in the primaries. What they should do is work with regular democrats to make more districts deep blue, they will stand a much better chance of taking the seat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)Last edited Thu May 16, 2019, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)
are just like flies circling around a bull's head.
Annoying, but they can't stop the bull.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,875 posts)he wants to honor his fathers legacy and kick Trumps ass.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)nearly 30 years as a famous gadfly buzzing his colleagues, with no effect except to get ignored and avoided as much as possible. It reportedly took him only a few minutes to terminally outrage and offend the leader of the progressive caucus on their first meeting. But $174,000/year with all the perks any newly arrived elite could want presumably made however he used his time in the next decades very worthwhile.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)The media wants a Bernie-Trump contest because they feel it will get better ratings and more page clicks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)What I'm seeing is covering the candidates. They'll play videos of them, say recent statements by the different ones. Report on polls.
The 2020 election will be a big deal, whoever the Democratic candidate is. They don't care if it's Sanders or Biden or Bullock. Everyone wants to know if the country will be able to get rid of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)those who screeched that Joe was yesterday's news, his poll numbers would collapse and the electorate was looking for radical change.
That was then, this is now. However, wisps of that sentiment are still floating around the ether: once voters know all the dirt on Joe, they'll surely change their minds or Biden's half-way measures are unacceptable to the Democratic electorate or electability is a poor measure of success.
Hello?
The so-called dirt is out there. Nada. The half-way measures? Not registering. Electability? In almost every poll out in the Netherlands where real people live, the electability factor is mentioned: we want someone to take the hideous Donald Trump to the woodshed, beat him senseless, a full repudiation, and then get on with healing and restoring the country.
Who can do that effectively? The rising chorus says Joe Biden.
The pundits and politically aware might hate the idea of the electability factor. The American public does not. Because unless we win in 2020, the dissembling of the country will continue. Democratic voters and those leaning left across the country know that. Even the Never-Trumpers know that. We have a lot of great people running. But there's only one who people feel confident in, a candidate who can do what must be done:
Joe Biden/2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)is not one of my trusted sources.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,554 posts)As for Politico, it reports on politics. Pro and Con.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)At least it avoids the post hoc ergo prompter hoc arguments. "You can accept the fallacy or not."
"Considering their performance in 2018..."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,554 posts)Take a look at the endorsements of Justice Democrats and Our Revolution, and count how many were successful. We won the House with centrist candidates in suburban marginal districts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)how that works, innit?!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)idea what the Justice Democrats, Democracy for America, or the Progressive Change Campaign Committee are. The other 99% have never heard of any of the people quoted in that article.
You know what, though? All of them know who Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are. 75-80% know something about Elizabeth Warren. 60% have heard of Beto O'Rourke, Kamala Harris, and Pete Buttigieg.
Those spokespersons for the "Left" in that Politico article are about as influential politically as I am. Their members know who they are and might think they have the right answers, but nobody else knows or cares.
In fact, I'd be willing to bet that less than 15% of the voting population has ever heard of Politico or knows that it's a website.
Politics is about realities. It's not about people nobody has heard of.
Silliness!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)There is a rich left tradition within the Democratic Party, as there is a deep mainstream (I hate the word moderate) and conservative tradition.
I doubt if insiders with their ears to the ground, were all that surprised by how Joe Bidens campaign took off.
Senator Sanders himself May have been surprised how his support wilted, but then again, he is not a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Few Democratic voters know about DU.
And if you read the beliefs of Justice Democrats, they are proudly not democratic voters. Good thing for them that even fewer have read their platform.
Not that it is all bad. But not one that can win a national election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)In respons to this Bullshit editorial. This spoilerism is a tired, beaten down one-trick pony that should have been put out to pasture a long time ago.
Still, some opportunistic sociopaths would rather invent and exploit anti-Democratic critique than build a real coalition. The latter takes talent, leadership and time... and the former takes only a lack of honor and conscience.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,331 posts)I guess I fell asleep for a year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)once there's a primary?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,220 posts)Biden entered the race
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raven123
(4,842 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)want someone older and kinder and Joe is known for being kind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)POC tend more moderate to moderate-liberal. So Biden is more appealing to them than Senator Sanders is. Adam Greene sees that party as being dominated by the far left, a view that is way inaccurate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden