Bernie and Trump's Scapegoating of Mexicans and Chinese on Trade and Immigration - Part I (Tariffs)

[TomCADem]

Last edited Mon Mar 4, 2019, 11:16 PM - Edit history (2)

In response to a poster who wrote:

Do you have any links? I'm curious to see what you think are attacks against Mexico and China

by Bernie. TIA. I think I'll be waiting a while.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=12692

I am going to explain how Bernie's dog whistle attacks on foreign countries parallel if not exceed the xenophobic attacks of Donald Trump.

Even more so than Trump, Bernie has made a career of blaming America's problems on trade and immigration. In particular, the villain in Bernie's attacks has been Mexico and China regardless of the facts behind his attacks. Indeed, more so than Trump, Bernie has seen fit to mostly exempt white countries from his demands for demands even when Mexico or China account for a small portion of US imports for the product at issue.

For example, lets look at steel tariffs. Trump announced the imposition of tariffs on steel imports, which is a move that Bernie Sanders has long championed:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/31/bernie-sanders-pledges-rewrite-disastrous-trade-deals/82473012/

Along with NAFTA, Sanders said he also would rewrite CAFTA, permanent normal trade relations with China, and the Korean Free Trade Agreement.

He didn’t specify what changes he would make but said U.S. workers shouldn't be forced to compete against people making “pennies an hour.” He also criticized deals that lead corporations to move to countries such as China where there are “virtually no environmental standards” compared to the U.S.

“That is not fair competition,” he said.

His campaign says Sanders also would impose countervailing tariffs on imports from China and Japan “until they stop dumping steel into the United States and stop manipulating their currencies.”

Now who is the biggest importer of steel to the US? China, right? Nope. Mexico? Wrong again. It is Canada, which imports more steel into the US than China and Mexico combined. Indeed, China only accounts for 2.9 percent of US steel imports.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-factbox/factbox-top-steel-exporters-to-the-united-states-idUSKCN1GE10I

So, you would think that Bernie would totally support Trump's efforts to impose tariffs on steel imports as Bernie long championed? Right? The answer is sort of. Bernie said:

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump-tariffs

I strongly support imposing stiff penalties on countries like China, Russia, South Korea and Vietnam to prevent them from illegally dumping steel and aluminum into the U.S. and throughout the world. American steel and aluminum workers need our help, and they need it now, but not at the expense of farmers, workers, small businesses and consumers in Vermont and throughout this country. Given Vermont’s proximity to Canada and our strong trade relations with Canada, these policies will be especially harmful to Vermont and other northern border states. It simply makes no sense to start a trade war with Canada, the European Union and others who are engaged in fair trade, are not cheating and where workers are paid a living wage with good benefits.

So, with the exception of Russia, Bernie supported Trump's imposition of tariffs on non-white countries, but suddenly exempted Canada (the top importer of steel to the US) from steel tariffs? Put another way, we think Trump is racist, but Bernie is the one who wants to focus on non-white countries when it comes to tariffs.

Of course, some folks will try to explain that Bernie is only focusing on third world countries with low wages that exploit their workers. Okay. Well, then why is Bernie Sanders including South Korea? South Korea third world? Heck, South Korea has a higher cost of living than the U.S.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=South+Korea

Finally, in 2016, Bernie liked to use the bogeyman of Mexican workers taking away jobs from real Americans: “You didn’t need a Ph.D. in economics to understand that American workers should not be forced to compete against people in Mexico making 25 cents an hour.”

https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/sanders-goes-after-clinton-aggressively-on-trade-220339

Indeed, s late as 2017, Bernie was still egging Trump on to tear up NAFTA:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-13/bernie-sanders-to-trump-on-nafta-for-once-keep-your-promise

Bernie Sanders Tells Trump to Keep His Promise on Nafta

President Donald Trump is finding an unlikely ally in his efforts to overhaul the North American Free Trade Agreement: the political left.

Civil-society groups, union leaders and left-wing politicians have opposed almost everything Trump has done. But they’re urging him to stand firm in his attempt to overhaul Nafta -- and face down opposition from business groups, who complain that U.S. companies will be hurt by the proposed changes. Mexico and Canada have called U.S. demands unworkable, including on regional-content requirements for cars and investor-state dispute systems.

Senator Bernie Sanders, an outspoken critic of trade deals in his campaign for president last year, called on Trump to deliver. “When Donald Trump campaigned for president, he promised that he was going to stop corporations from shifting American jobs to Mexico,” Sanders said Wednesday at a rally for the #ReplaceNafta movement in Washington. “For once in your life, keep your promises.”

Of course, when Trump threatened to actually do this, as Bernie advocated, Bernie once again stayed silent. Will Bernie flip flop again like he did on steel and condemn Trump if he does indeed withdraw from NAFTA? Or, will Bernie just say that he would do it better?

Next: Immigration.

[frazzled]

1. Indeed. There is sometimes little light

Between the ideas/policies of the two. Perhaps because both are stuck in 1970, and both hold to the illusion that they can bring back America’s old industrial past, which was dying even then. Before globalism and before NAFTA. Because both hew to ideology over fact.

[Cha]

2. KICK!

[WeekiWater]

3. Looking forward to your comments on immigration.

His history on immigration is long and enough is there that should make him a non-starter for any progressive. He has sided with Republicans numerous times including on votes.

[RandySF]

4. I will never forget the racist comment

posted here on DU against Indian H1-B holders during the primaries.

[Fresh_Start]

5. absolutely....

Sanders like Trump doesn't understand economics well enough to understand the flaws of his own thinking.

[comradebillyboy]

6. Excellent post. But I'm pro free trade and pro immigration.

[Autumn]

7. Thanks for your links and the response. Here is mine

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128712225#post17

[TomCADem]

15. You are welcome. I responded to your post and similar comments...

in this post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128713176#post14

[mcar]

8. Appreciate the vetting

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. Is Sherrod Brown racist too?

Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio, who is up for re-election this fall, also celebrated Trump's move.
"China's cheating has shuttered steel plants across our state, put Ohioans out of work, and distorted global markets," Brown said. "Today's tariffs are an important step toward enforcing trade laws and making clear the U.S. will not allow China to cheat Americans out of their jobs."

While Democrats don't agree with Trump often, the party has long been more skeptical of the benefits of free trade. Many Democrats were against the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade deal, despite the TPP being advanced by President Barack Obama. Even in the 1990s, more of the party's members voted against the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) than Republicans.

[TomCADem]

14. Sen. Brown Illustrates How Bernie Sanders Is Making Racial Dog Whistles

To begin with, it is a bit of a logical fallacy to just say "what about (insert name)?" This fallacy is aptly explained in this John Oliver video:

However, to indulge your point, Sherrod Brown actually reinforces the idea that Bernie is simply appealing to white resentment. In my OP, I documented how Bernie has had a long record of scapegoating Mexico and China when it came to pushing for steel tariffs. Of course, Canada is the number one exporter of steel to the U.S.

Now, when Trump imposed steel tariffs on Canada and the EU, Sen. Brown supported the plan:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/brown-backs-trump-plan-raise-steel-tariffs-candada-mexico/1Llm8W34HU1ZexAJqnUXoK/

Sen. Brown backs Trump plan to raise steel tariffs on Canada, Mexico, EU

Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown supports President Donald Trump’s decision Thursday to impose tariffs on imports of steel and aluminum from Canada, Mexico and the European Union.

Brown, D-Ohio, said he has “supported steel tariffs from the beginning, because China’s cheating has cost too many Ohio steelworkers their jobs.”

“I’m open to carving out allies who are not part of the problem, but steel overcapacity is a global problem that needs a global response,” Brown said.Portman said Trump should have exempted Canada and Mexico from the new tariffs in part because both are trying to negotiate a revised North American Free Trade Agreement with the United States.

However, except for Russia, Bernie Sanders inexplicably sought to exempt countries with mostly white populations:

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump-tariffs

We need a trade policy that is fair to American workers, not just large multi-national corporations. We need to stop the hemorrhaging of American jobs as large corporations shut down in the United States and move to low-wage countries.

"Donald Trump’s haphazard and reckless plan to impose tariffs on Canada and the European Union is an absolute disaster that will cause unnecessary economic pain to farmers, manufacturers and consumers in Vermont and throughout the country.

"I strongly support imposing stiff penalties on countries like China, Russia, South Korea and Vietnam to prevent them from illegally dumping steel and aluminum into the U.S. and throughout the world.

Now Canada and Germany both export more steel into the U.S. than China, yet Bernie wants to just focus on countries with Asians and Mexicans?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-factbox/factbox-top-steel-exporters-to-the-united-states-idUSKCN1GE10I

So, while I personally oppose protectionist trade policies, I think that Sherrod Brown is being ideologically consistent in trying to support Ohio steelworkers.

In contrast, how do you explain Bernie's decision to exempt mostly white countries with the exception of Russia, particularly since Canada and Germany import more steel into the U.S. then China, which is Bernie's bogeyman?

[NastyRiffraff]

11. Thanks for doing the research

on what many of us vaguely knew, but you pinned it down very effectively.

[backabby-blue]

12. I've known this for a long time

BTW, I'm pro TPP. You can not really be for tightening on China and be against TPP.

[betsuni]

13. K&R