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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:36 PM May 2019

Pete Buttigieg Tells Democrats How To Cancel The Trump Horror Show

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05/26/pete-buttigieg-trump-horror-show.html

Posted on Sun, May 26th, 2019 by Jason Easley
Pete Buttigieg Tells Democrats How To Cancel The Trump Horror Show
Pete Buttigieg said that it is time for America to ignore Trump’s distractions and talk about what they want instead of Trump.

Transcript via ABC’s This Week:

PETE BUTTIGIEG: It’s a continuing horror show right now in Washington. And you have a president who has turned the entire thing into a reality show. We’ve got to completely change the channel, and make sure that we respond to all of the — the distractions and the nonsense coming out of the White House, not just by calling him to account, but by returning consistently to the question of how American lives are shaped by those decisions.

RADDATZ: You talk about changing the channel, how do you do — do that with President Trump? It — it works for him.

BUTTIGIEG: It does, but part of how it works for him is he provokes us in ways that make it very hard for us to do anything but respond in kind, the nicknames, the tweets, the insults. And what we’ve got to remember is that the more we’re talking about him, the less we’re talking about voters.

When the conversation is about voters, we’re going to win. Voters want a raise. They want health care. On almost all of the issues, the American people are with us. It is precisely for that reason that the only way the Republican Party can retain power in the White House is if the conversation is about something completely different, like the shenanigans of the current president
.





Buttigieg was right. If the conversation in 2020 is about you instead of him, Democrats will do very well in the election. If Trump is able to distract and manipulate his way through the campaign, Democrats will struggle to break through. Washington is a horror show under Trump. It is also a do nothing executive branch that is being enabled by Republican Senate majority to do less than the bare minimum of governance.

The election needs to be about healthcare, wages, Trump’s failed trade war, and other issues that matter in the lives of people. Impeachment is a nice thought, but it plays into Trump’s hands by giving him a distraction that allows him to make the election about himself.

The way to beat the Trump horror show is to not allow it to hijack the 2020 election.
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Pete Buttigieg Tells Democrats How To Cancel The Trump Horror Show (Original Post) babylonsister May 2019 OP
He is exactly right. Cracklin Charlie May 2019 #1
Right elleng May 2019 #2
He's just so damn smart! If he doesn't get the nomination, he needs to be an advisor. pdsimdars May 2019 #3
That's why I am supporting Pete in the face of many other fine candidates. PatrickforO May 2019 #4
How to talk about issues not about him: preface it with the reminder TO him that it's not about him. ancianita May 2019 #5
It Takes Enablers To Work DallasNE May 2019 #6
Tell that to the MSM $$$$$. BigmanPigman May 2019 #7
MSNBC is blaring IMPEACH!!! 24-7 Celerity May 2019 #11
Buttigieg also said it was hard to lookaway from something as grotesque as Trump. OMGWTF May 2019 #8
I'm liking this guy more every day. TreasonousBastard May 2019 #9
This is the same as SCVDem May 2019 #10
Sure, got it. mobeau69 May 2019 #25
I know. mobeau69 May 2019 #26
100% agree. The "but" will come at the end of my statement. SayItLoud May 2019 #12
Okay, but remember the Midterms. ginnyinWI May 2019 #30
Pete himself is very watchable and quotable, so he will help their bottom line too. marylandblue May 2019 #44
Mayor Pete is a virtuoso with words Politicub May 2019 #13
Obviously leanforward May 2019 #14
She didn't visit Wisconsin. ginnyinWI May 2019 #32
He is not the only one BlueIdaho May 2019 #15
Also laughing at him, ridiculing him. n/t ginnyinWI May 2019 #33
You'd think this is the way. But I'm not so sure. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #16
In Mayor Pete's defense, babylonsister May 2019 #22
Oh, I missed that. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #24
Has anyone ever noticed how Bernie, whenver interviewed especially with Doitnow May 2019 #17
Damn, I've still got Biden as my choice, but Buttigieg is about to take his place. cwydro May 2019 #18
The more l read and listen the more impressed l become. Enoki33 May 2019 #19
I remember his saying something very like this early on. CaliforniaPeggy May 2019 #20
one wishes there was an all trump forum on DU and get him off of GD, Presidential Primaries, etc nt msongs May 2019 #21
He's impressive, but I know how the opposition will get him. RLG May 2019 #23
Dems have passed more than 100 bills to help kitchen table issues, they're DOA in the senate. onecaliberal May 2019 #27
He is 100% right Perseus May 2019 #28
Change the channel? DemoTex May 2019 #29
Pete is the smartest one in the house. sellitman May 2019 #31
And he will be President, if not 2020, before long grantcart May 2019 #36
I've always admired your posts. sellitman May 2019 #43
So what the Dem candidates should do with this is: ginnyinWI May 2019 #34
One way to change the narrative is to use a little psychology. KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #35
Whenever you accuse someone of a lie you should add something. grantcart May 2019 #37
Very important point and thanks for that input! KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #41
This is truly the fact on a platter. defacto7 May 2019 #38
We have stopped discussing him at home, unless ginnyinWI May 2019 #39
Mayor Pete on Iran RedParrot May 2019 #40
Distractions, including impeachment saidsimplesimon May 2019 #42
 

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
1. He is exactly right.
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:52 PM
May 2019

In terms of the context of his own position; as a candidate for President.

I could do with never hearing any candidate called sleepy, crazy, crooked, low-energy etc, etc, etc.

Pete is a sharp cookie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
3. He's just so damn smart! If he doesn't get the nomination, he needs to be an advisor.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:01 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

PatrickforO

(14,571 posts)
4. That's why I am supporting Pete in the face of many other fine candidates.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:11 PM
May 2019

He talks about kitchen table issues.

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ancianita

(36,044 posts)
5. How to talk about issues not about him: preface it with the reminder TO him that it's not about him.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:13 PM
May 2019

Then talk about voters who need healthcare, voters who need living wages, voters harmed by his trade war, voters who want fairer elections, etc.

This has to stop being cult of personality debating, and start being about real governing, not fake crisis and spectacle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
6. It Takes Enablers To Work
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:14 PM
May 2019

Enablers like Raddatz, who are the problem as they get suckered in. Resist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BigmanPigman

(51,588 posts)
7. Tell that to the MSM $$$$$.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:46 PM
May 2019

They want contention since it boosts ratings.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
11. MSNBC is blaring IMPEACH!!! 24-7
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:58 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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OMGWTF

(3,954 posts)
8. Buttigieg also said it was hard to lookaway from something as grotesque as Trump.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:54 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
9. I'm liking this guy more every day.
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:54 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
10. This is the same as
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:57 PM
May 2019

Joe Biden has said!

I agree with all who hold this opinion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mobeau69

(11,143 posts)
25. Sure, got it.
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:17 PM
May 2019

Too bad Joe can't communicate ideas anywhere close to the level Pete can though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mobeau69

(11,143 posts)
26. I know.
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:18 PM
May 2019

He's ahead in the polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
12. 100% agree. The "but" will come at the end of my statement.
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:08 PM
May 2019

Nothing will change his base when media presents him and his unhinged views, lies and positions (or lack there of).
No talking head panels with left pov and right pov "discussing" the latest outlandish interview, news reports or rally speech will convince either those hating him and those loving him to change their views.

No logic and facts will change either sides position. Claiming that we have to chip away and pick up a few % points of his base or the undecided is too much effort for not enough result.

I have heard, read and know enough to have my opinion solidified about him and the Republican enablers. The other side is no different than me.

Every Democratic candidate needs to heed Mayor Pete's words and view. Here comes the "BUT"....

But, the media makes $$$$ with headlines and I don't think they would choose to print, air "Biden calls for Health-care for everyone" versus " tRUMP calls Biden a mother fucking socialistic pig" . Hence the dilemma of fighting fire with fire or fire with facts and how the media will either be complicit as they were in 2015-16 and appear to be now.

Taking the air away from tRUMP and his insanity is the ONLY way IMO to mute him (of course his cult will still hear, follow and vote for him) but speaking to the minds and hearts of voters who have heard enough of his hate, lies and racism and those who want and need the programs and views of what many of the Democratic candidates offer must be tried. I hope the media grasps this and what it will mean for them in terms other than $$$.

Just sayin..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
30. Okay, but remember the Midterms.
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:27 AM
May 2019

It didn't matter about the red hat guys. It didn't matter about Dirty Don's attempts to incite fear or distract.

The rest of us were mad enough to come out in huge numbers to vote. It might be that some of those red hats were a bit bored or fed up and stayed home.

Granted the Presidential election will make more people come out to vote. But still, I think the Dems can do this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
44. Pete himself is very watchable and quotable, so he will help their bottom line too.
Tue May 28, 2019, 11:59 AM
May 2019

And he doesn't shy away from controversy. He picks controversies that are not about Trump, like homophobia and religion. Controversy sells, which is why Trump sells.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
13. Mayor Pete is a virtuoso with words
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:11 PM
May 2019

He is so right. It's also less stressful to stop watching the Trump cesspool so much. I don't read about his Tweets if I can avoid it, and I don't feel like I've missed out on being informed about current events. His administration is going to be a shitshow until the day he is expelled from the White House.

This bears repeating; spread the message far and wide:

"When the conversation is about voters, we’re going to win. Voters want a raise. They want health care. On almost all of the issues, the American people are with us. It is precisely for that reason that the only way the Republican Party can retain power in the White House is if the conversation is about something completely different, like the shenanigans of the current president."


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
14. Obviously
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:12 PM
May 2019

Now. He’s said it. What I’ve been hearing this cycle is a focus on the people. In the last presidential cycle I thought an element was missing. The rural Americans. Somewhere I read that HRC did not visit a few of the states she lost in the E College.

I’m glad to see the focus on the people and not kowtow to capitalistic interests.

Watched Mayor Pete and Rachel recently, two Rhodes Scholars, and found the conversation interesting. Very articulate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
32. She didn't visit Wisconsin.
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:30 AM
May 2019

She really should have, because we are always light blue, not dark blue. And there was a big group centered in liberal Madison who were big Bernie supporters and Jill Stein supporters and vowed not to vote for Hillary. (Some of them are extended family of mine.) She could have gone there once.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. He is not the only one
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:18 PM
May 2019

But I am not diminishing Pete! He is dead on. Trump’s ego demands constant attention. Ignoring him is his Kryptonite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
33. Also laughing at him, ridiculing him. n/t
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:31 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. You'd think this is the way. But I'm not so sure.
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:25 PM
May 2019

As John Kerry learned the hard way, if you ignore nonsense or attacks, that leaves the nonsense & attacks out there in the stratosphere, without the reality and facts to counter it. The nonsense and attacks will be all there is for the masses to believe in.

So, I don't know. We are in uncharted territory. The nonsense of the tweets, the Trump reality show, is actually furthering a plan of action in the U.S. that is unprecedented. Tweets about declaring a national emergency for the wall, are following by the declaration. Tweets about Puerto Rico are followed by not giving Puerto Rico disaster funding. The reality show is a show, followed by action with the assistance of other Republicans.

Democrats DO point out the dangers in his policies. But in so doing, it by default recognizes the tweets and rhetoric and reality show that talk about the policies.

Hillary ignored being called Nasty and "Lock her up." Kerry ignored "Swift Boat" negative ads. Biden is not ignoring a single slight, I assume because he recognizes that to do so, leaves the negativity out there with no opposite view, no reaction. So people assume the negative tweet is true.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
22. In Mayor Pete's defense,
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:45 PM
May 2019

he did say this: We’ve got to completely change the channel, and make sure that we respond to all of the — the distractions and the nonsense coming out of the White House, not just by calling him to account...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. Oh, I missed that.
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:26 PM
May 2019

How do you not give it front and center, and respond to it at the same time?

Anyway, I don't know the way to respond to Trump's reality show.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
17. Has anyone ever noticed how Bernie, whenver interviewed especially with
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:26 PM
May 2019

questions intentionally meant to create conflict? ...when he answers these and other ridiculous questions, before he finishes his first sentence he is talking about what HE wants to talk about, not what they want to goad him into saying. I think that is what drives the MSM crazy. That is a very good way to get off a subject and onto something of substance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. Damn, I've still got Biden as my choice, but Buttigieg is about to take his place.
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:35 PM
May 2019

I’m more impressed every day

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
19. The more l read and listen the more impressed l become.
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:43 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,599 posts)
20. I remember his saying something very like this early on.
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:26 PM
May 2019

It was a striking moment for me.

I had never thought about doing what he suggests and the power of his idea really took hold for me.

And that was the moment that I knew he was the candidate I wanted to be President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,401 posts)
21. one wishes there was an all trump forum on DU and get him off of GD, Presidential Primaries, etc nt
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:42 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RLG

(314 posts)
23. He's impressive, but I know how the opposition will get him.
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:07 PM
May 2019

Therefore, I am not on the Buttigieg bandwagon because I fear this, and I don't mean in his own party. I mean the independent committees who support the GOP and Trump.

I know he will answer back, but that's the issue. He'll be responding to attacks without getting his policies and vision out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

onecaliberal

(32,849 posts)
27. Dems have passed more than 100 bills to help kitchen table issues, they're DOA in the senate.
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:07 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
28. He is 100% right
Mon May 27, 2019, 08:53 AM
May 2019

Two things:

1. Everyone needs to understand that the buffoon is nothing but a decoy, and a very good one. He is there to distract while people like Pence, Stephen Miller cook up the evil deeds.

2. The more wee talk about the creature the more power we give it, we need to stop talking about the latest stupidity the creature spews, when we start isolating him he will slowly disappear, he will die in despair from not being noticed, he will yell louder, he will spew more proofs of his evil nature while compromising himself deeper into crimes such as obstruction of justice.

I just wish the media would begin to ignore him, just like Rachel Maddow does about his tweets.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemoTex

(25,396 posts)
29. Change the channel?
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:09 AM
May 2019

No. Blow Up Your TV.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
31. Pete is the smartest one in the house.
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:27 AM
May 2019

I want smart in the White House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
36. And he will be President, if not 2020, before long
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:58 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
43. I've always admired your posts.
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:56 PM
May 2019

This one maybe more than any other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
34. So what the Dem candidates should do with this is:
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:39 AM
May 2019

1. Dismiss what Trump has said quickly with something like, "well that's just wrong" but not spend any time on his awfulness. (When a child has a tantrum and is kicking his heels on the floor, the best thing you can do is leave the room for a few minutes.)

2. Launch right into what you want to do for Americans and the country. What is broken that needs to be fixed. And I do think they are trying to do this.

I think one problem is members of the media who are addicted to covering the distractions. It's hard to quit because it's so easy!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
35. One way to change the narrative is to use a little psychology.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:57 AM
May 2019

Every time a Democrat is asked a question about tRump, just automatically respond with "Trump is a liar" or simply "that is a lie" and then move on to a substantive political comment. Keep pounding those words 'till people puke. Should the host press for more, just say because he is a serial liar, we don't believe anything he says is valid. In other words, completely cover him in black paint.

The words "lie" and "liar" have an emotional impact on most everyone and most people despise liars. We need to stop playing candy-ass nice and using statements like "that's not true" or "that's not correct".

Over time, that practice might also shame our media into stopping sensationalizing his every tweet and movement. We can tell them that if they continue to support a liar and not call him out, we will assume their advertisers are lying to us as well.

tRump has zero respect for decorum so why should we?.........

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
37. Whenever you accuse someone of a lie you should add something.
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:20 PM
May 2019

"And I can prove it"

"Trump is lying and I can prove it"

"That is a lie and I can prove it."

Since I started using this in a calm voice about 5vyears ago I have had spectacular results. In general people repeating Fox news spin sense there is something wrong and when presented with an assertion that it can be proved it stops the discussion.

If delivered without hostility it can generate an even friendly, "really?"

Of course you need to have the proof response ready which is easy with Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
41. Very important point and thanks for that input!
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:56 PM
May 2019

It's important for our politicians to start using that narrative, including your suggested calmness.

Saying "that's not quite true and I can prove it" just does not have the same psychological punch as using the word "lie".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
38. This is truly the fact on a platter.
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:30 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
39. We have stopped discussing him at home, unless
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:43 PM
May 2019

it's about something new. Most of the time when I read what he has said or done, it isn't! It's the same old lies and distractions.

We used to entertain each other with what new outrageous thing he said that day. It's more peaceful now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RedParrot

(112 posts)
40. Mayor Pete on Iran
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:49 PM
May 2019

The mayor said walking away from the Iran nuclear deal made the U.S. "look foolish," and that if he were president, he would seek to rejoin the deal in an effort to stop the country from obtaining nuclear weapons.

"We didn’t do the Iran nuclear deal for them. It wasn't a favor. It was something that we did in order to make America safer, and withdrawing from it has made America not only less safe but also less credible the next time we go into a deal," Buttigieg said.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/continuing-horror-show-buttigieg-sounds-off-current-state/story?id=63266806

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
42. Distractions, including impeachment
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:05 PM
May 2019

Buttigieg, "The way to beat the (pretender's) horror show is to not allow it to hijack the 2020 election."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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