Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:17 AM
Biden isn't "delusional." It's called campaigning. It's called politics.
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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 Biden isn't "delusional." It's called campaigning. It's called politics. (Original post) |
themaguffin | Jun 2019 | OP |
| Post removed | Jun 2019 | #1 | |
| themaguffin | Jun 2019 | #3 | |
| LibFarmer | Jun 2019 | #8 | |
| dogman | Jun 2019 | #14 | |
| themaguffin | Jun 2019 | #16 | |
| dogman | Jun 2019 | #35 | |
| Cha | Jun 2019 | #64 | |
| ehrnst | Jun 2019 | #81 | |
| Fla Dem | Jun 2019 | #54 | |
| LanternWaste | Jun 2019 | #29 | |
| LibFarmer | Jun 2019 | #34 | |
| Locrian | Jun 2019 | #53 | |
| George II | Jun 2019 | #55 | |
| NurseJackie | Jun 2019 | #61 | |
| LiberalLovinLug | Jun 2019 | #67 | |
| George II | Jun 2019 | #69 | |
| LiberalLovinLug | Jun 2019 | #70 | |
| Cha | Jun 2019 | #63 | |
| HopeAgain | Jun 2019 | #32 | |
| LibFarmer | Jun 2019 | #41 | |
| HopeAgain | Jun 2019 | #43 | |
| LibFarmer | Jun 2019 | #46 | |
| HopeAgain | Jun 2019 | #47 | |
| NurseJackie | Jun 2019 | #40 | |
| LibFarmer | Jun 2019 | #42 | |
| pazzyanne | Jun 2019 | #49 | |
| SharonClark | Jun 2019 | #59 | |
| MustLoveBeagles | Jun 2019 | #74 | |
| LakeArenal | Jun 2019 | #2 | |
| pazzyanne | Jun 2019 | #50 | |
| The Velveteen Ocelot | Jun 2019 | #4 | |
| still_one | Jun 2019 | #5 | |
| Kahuna7 | Jun 2019 | #6 | |
| uawchild | Jun 2019 | #18 | |
| Kahuna7 | Jun 2019 | #20 | |
| LibFarmer | Jun 2019 | #44 | |
| BannonsLiver | Jun 2019 | #56 | |
| EvolveOrConvolve | Jun 2019 | #78 | |
| progressoid | Jun 2019 | #79 | |
| BannonsLiver | Jun 2019 | #80 | |
| R B Garr | Jun 2019 | #58 | |
| LibFarmer | Jun 2019 | #62 | |
| progressoid | Jun 2019 | #19 | |
| saidsimplesimon | Jun 2019 | #30 | |
| JudyM | Jun 2019 | #7 | |
| themaguffin | Jun 2019 | #10 | |
| JudyM | Jun 2019 | #15 | |
| themaguffin | Jun 2019 | #17 | |
| JudyM | Jun 2019 | #21 | |
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| mtnsnake | Jun 2019 | #12 | |
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| Arkansas Granny | Jun 2019 | #22 | |
| SunSeeker | Jun 2019 | #23 | |
| Demit | Jun 2019 | #24 | |
| zipplewrath | Jun 2019 | #25 | |
| guillaumeb | Jun 2019 | #26 | |
| TheSocialDem | Jun 2019 | #27 | |
| themaguffin | Jun 2019 | #36 | |
| TheSocialDem | Jun 2019 | #45 | |
| area51 | Jun 2019 | #75 | |
| loyalsister | Jun 2019 | #28 | |
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| themaguffin | Jun 2019 | #66 | |
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| Mike Nelson | Jun 2019 | #52 | |
| aikoaiko | Jun 2019 | #57 | |
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| betsuni | Jun 2019 | #76 | |
| BlueTsunami2018 | Jun 2019 | #77 |
Response to Post removed (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:24 AM
3. No, it's not, it's called campaigning to all voters. Jesus Christ. Wow.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Post removed (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:41 AM
8. "The base" is not the ultra left wing
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LibFarmer (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:12 AM
14. I'll ask again, who are the ultra-left?
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to dogman (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:16 AM
16. Who is the base?
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Reply #16)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:36 PM
35. I would hope Democrats.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to dogman (Reply #35)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 04:25 PM
Cha (282,401 posts)
64. I'll ask again.. Wherever did you get that
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idea, dogman? It doesn't make any sense.
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #64)
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 11:52 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
81. Crickets....
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Reply #16)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:41 PM
Fla Dem (20,557 posts)
54. The base is any Democrat from center to left of center as long as they vote
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to dogman (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:18 PM
29. The ultra-left are the ones who threw John Lewis under the the bus.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LanternWaste (Reply #29)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:26 PM
34. Great answer!! nt
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to dogman (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:38 PM
53. I guess the Ultra Left is extreme huh?
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Locrian (Reply #53)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:43 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
55. Here's a definition of "ultra" :
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #55)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 03:41 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
61. And... BOOM!!
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #55)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:13 PM
67. So.....70% to 90% of Americans are left wing "extremists"?
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #67)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:42 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
69. Where do you come up with that? First, those are only three cherry-picked issues...
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #69)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 02:09 PM
70. Where? subtracted from the percent that wants those things
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There are dozens of issues, but those are important ones no?
YOU don't think those % are accurate? Well, hard to argue with someone that simply refuses to believe multiple polls in front of their face. I don't quite follow your math in the last statement you made. 20% of Democrats own guns so that means I am saying 20% of Democrats are right wing extremists? That's quite an assumption saying that every gun owner, even a Democratic voting gun owner, is automatically AGAINST sane gun control laws. I'd think that that 20% against those laws would be for the most part made up of Republicans. I'm sure there are a few Dems in there, there always is. But its quite a stretch to assume every gun owner, even Dems, are against sane gun control laws. Hey you're the one that called the majority of Americans "extremist", if you can believe the polls. And it seems rather convenient to simply cry "fake news" about those polls. 
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to dogman (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 04:18 PM
Cha (282,401 posts)
63. The Democratic Base is Actually our African
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LibFarmer (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:22 PM
32. Same thing was said in 2016
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to HopeAgain (Reply #32)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:02 PM
41. It takes a small percentage to swing an election
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LibFarmer (Reply #41)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:04 PM
43. And we lost...
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to HopeAgain (Reply #43)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:07 PM
46. Yes ... and the reasons are well-known
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LibFarmer (Reply #46)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:11 PM
47. That same word will be there on the street times ten
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if Biden keeps saying that the Republicans, who are tearing down our democracy, are basically good people who will do the right thing without Trump.
Sure doesn't make me want to jump on the Biden bandwagon.
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to LibFarmer (Reply #8)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:56 PM
NurseJackie (42,862 posts)
40. The "base" are the ones who ALWAYS VOTE and who are LOYAL to the Democratic party...
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:03 PM
42. +1000
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:20 PM
pazzyanne (5,875 posts)
49. +1000
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 02:48 PM
SharonClark (9,494 posts)
59. Bingo
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 08:58 PM
MustLoveBeagles (10,697 posts)
74. All of this
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:23 AM
LakeArenal (25,315 posts)
2. A lot of all the candidates ideas are ideals
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LakeArenal (Reply #2)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:20 PM
pazzyanne (5,875 posts)
50. Well put, LakeArenal.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:25 AM
The Velveteen Ocelot (105,701 posts)
4. This isn't Joe's first rodeo.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:26 AM
still_one (86,948 posts)
5. It is an inane criticism. Not one candidate campaigns they will not try to work with everyone
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:31 AM
6. Exactly! What is he supposed to say, if elected I vow to NOT...
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work with republicans?
 While there are some saying that this season, likely just because Biden said he would, I've never heard it before.
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:23 AM
18. It would be nice not to praise Dick Cheney, for starters
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to uawchild (Reply #18)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:27 AM
20. You should talk. Cory Booker, my senator, routinely praises people
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #20)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:05 PM
44. Unless of course Cory Booker is a red herring
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to LibFarmer (Reply #44)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:55 PM
56. Sanders((((Cough)))
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #56)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 09:14 PM
78. ummmm
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #78)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:22 PM
79. Well, ya learn something new every day.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #78)
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 10:17 AM
80. Ummm
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Mine has 4 on one side. But nice reach!
I’d be more worried about Bernie tanking and ceding second place to Warren than lame attempts at implying other DUers are anti-Semitic if I were you. It’s really going south for him.
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to LibFarmer (Reply #44)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 02:46 PM
R B Garr (16,533 posts)
58. +1, I was surprised by the same divisive message from Booker's
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campaign that we’ve only seen with one other campaign—the constant diversion tactic that “progressives” are superior Democrats.
I’ve never seen Booker’s campaign use those divisive tactics.
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to R B Garr (Reply #58)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 03:47 PM
62. Because Cory Booker is a centrist nt
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:25 AM
19. I don't have a problem with him saying he'll work with Repubs.
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That's politics. However, he should probably save that for the general election (assuming he gets the nod). Dem primary voters don't want to hear that.
And he should definitely STOP saying shit like "Mike Pence is a decent guy".
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to progressoid (Reply #19)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:18 PM
saidsimplesimon (7,881 posts)
30. I agree, but doubt
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:38 AM
JudyM (25,701 posts)
7. Aspiration is helpful only if it's based on reality. Obama had reason for aspiration. But we learned
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or should have, what the real rethug agenda is, and it is most decidedly NOT playing fairly and honorably.
Reid also famously believed that McConnell wasn’t being serious when he announced his caucus’s main goal. 
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JudyM (Reply #7)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:51 AM
10. Not true, most every new president says things on election night or at inaugeration that
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Reply #10)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:13 AM
JudyM (25,701 posts)
15. So bullshit as a strategy is ok with you? On such a key issue, we can't wave a wand and wish away
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JudyM (Reply #15)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:17 AM
17. It's not bullshit. It's an appeal. You clearly haven't read what I wrote.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Reply #17)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:27 AM
JudyM (25,701 posts)
21. Thought I did. Are you suggesting that he is not putting this out there as his intended strategy?
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JudyM (Reply #21)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 02:52 PM
R B Garr (16,533 posts)
60. You mean like a cynical "strategy" that a primary is "rigged"
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against a certain candidate? That seems like bullshit, too, but some actually run on that. Can you believe that junk?
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JudyM (Reply #15)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 08:45 PM
73. Bullshit is a great strategy....
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:43 AM
9. Some are furious that
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:55 AM
11. Seeing a pattern
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:01 AM
12. Yes it's politics but it's also about as sincere as when Repubs send their "thoughts and prayers"
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:23 PM
33. Biden may be able to pick two or three off
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:12 PM
48. How do you know that Biden knows that?
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:11 AM
brer cat (20,371 posts)
13. I agree.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:30 AM
Arkansas Granny (30,946 posts)
22. Biden has been in office since a time when Democrats and Republicans could and did work together
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:32 AM
SunSeeker (48,726 posts)
23. Haven't virtually all the candidates said they'll work with the GOP?
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:41 AM
24. He claims to KNOW that the GOP will suddenly be cooperative with Democrats once Trump is gone.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:59 AM
25. The concern is he actually believes it
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:05 PM
guillaumeb (42,641 posts)
26. Recommended.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:07 PM
27. Yea let's not stick a hand out to
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to TheSocialDem (Reply #27)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:37 PM
36. It's not about that. At. All.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Reply #36)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:05 PM
45. There is no working with this current
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to TheSocialDem (Reply #45)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:09 AM
area51 (10,780 posts)
75. +1 n/t
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:12 PM
28. Reaching out to republicans is one thing
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to loyalsister (Reply #28)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:50 PM
jalan48 (13,529 posts)
39. +1
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to loyalsister (Reply #28)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 04:32 PM
65. +1,000 n/t
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to loyalsister (Reply #28)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 07:59 AM
66. It's not about believing it. It's an aspirational thought that many GE voters long for.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Reply #66)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 04:01 PM
72. The translation of that aspirational thought to action
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:21 PM
31. It's a GE strategy in the primaries
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:43 PM
37. Think He Somehow Believes It
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:46 PM
jalan48 (13,529 posts)
38. It wasn't that long ago we were calling them Deplorables and voters we shouldn't waste time
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:27 PM
elleng (121,909 posts)
51. Thanks, maguffin.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:36 PM
52. I think the "delusional" thing was...
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… a mistake. However, Biden's baiting Trump and getting the cameras on his own speech was brilliant. It was a much bigger win than the loss...
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:57 PM
aikoaiko (33,177 posts)
57. Words matter. They matter is Joe says them, or Bernie, or Elizabeth, or Kamala...etc
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:37 PM
BootinUp (43,824 posts)
68. Bingo. Now down the rabbit hole with
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 02:19 PM
71. K&R
If I were to vote in a presidentialprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:14 AM
betsuni (21,684 posts)
76. K&R
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to themaguffin (Original post)
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:19 AM
BlueTsunami2018 (2,871 posts)
77. That's exactly right.
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If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
