MSNBC actually hostile to Biden. Matthews, Kornacki, and Reid definitely. NT

[emmaverybo]

[ancianita]

1. Yes. I don't think they're playing fair with his answers. He was one of the top four.

[BeyondGeography]

2. CNN is burying him too FYI

[ucrdem]

3. Noticed that.

The you-tube commentary after was brutal.

[highplainsdem]

4. MSNBC has NOT been on Biden's side for months now.

[Raven123]

7. Interesting. I have had the opposite opinion

For months, even as many candidates announced they were running, MSNBC seemed to view them as second tier as they awaited the Biden announcement. I guess it depends on your point of view.

[highplainsdem]

9. Second tier in polls, as they were. But MSNBC, especially Hayes and Reid, have been very

critical of Biden, and Maddow's made it plain again and again she doesn't want people to think about electability, which is code for "don't choose Biden."

I went through MSNBC's Twitter feed one night after Chris Hayes was tweeting some anti-Biden crap, and the Twitter feed for the network had nothing positive on Biden. Nothing.

[Hoyt]

31. Eugene Robinson wasn't ugly, but he made it clear that opposition to busing

back them wasn’t out of sympathy for Black kids.

Don’t know what it was like in NJ, but where I grew up, opposition to busing was usually something very unliberal.

With that said, Biden has done so much good. If he’s the nominee, I’d be behind him enthusiastically.

[Cha]

13. Reid and Hayes have always been

against Biden.. Reid had a nasty disingenuous tweet about Biden Supporters.

[emmaverybo]

8. Right. You are right. NT

[PatSeg]

25. That is how they tend to treat the

front runner. They were brutal to Hillary.

That said, I don't think the media has ever been good to Biden for most of his career.

[Raine]

5. Definitely, they went after him

I thought Biden did a great job in the debate but they keep telling me he didn't, BS!

[emmaverybo]

11. He hit all his marks. No, he did not turn in a star-making performance, That was Harris, not as much

on substance, even argument, as on tactics (stand out by taking on the top dog), delivery,
personality, and coming-from-behind factor.

I was surprised that she claimed to be the only candidate to mention a failed Latin America policy
as influencing the current humanitarian crisis, since Biden’s most cogent article on this very topic had just been published, and I find the Biden-blame offensive, but yes, her personalizing
bussing was effective.

She is, though, only yet another rival trying to undercut Biden’s civil right creds and his long-established ties with, and support from, black American voters, by no means assured, and in fairness, stronger with older than younger people.

She might cut into his lead along with Warren and Sanders. She might win the primaries. Or she
might be a new political darling. She is already a powerful voice as earned. However, she can not
win the general election and does not have near Biden’s presidential qualifications.

What she did tonight was a win of sorts, for litigating the past, for herself most of all.

Not a win for the country.

[BeyondGeography]

30. If we're talking about busing we're losing

I agree with you there. But that’s what happens when you have a front runner with a record going back to the early 70s.

Harris is getting a lot of attention for her takedown but I think it’s political junk food at the end of the day. Nothing sustainable in and of itself.

[emmaverybo]

43. Seems to have traction now. But right, his record goes back and it is going to be rehashed no

matter by whom or how. Better now than later. He is responsible for it and has to give an accounting.

[onetexan]

16. Joe's performance reinforced my vote for him. Kamala was good until she tried to go after Joe.

she didn't get any points there IMO

[Thekaspervote]

27. Harris will come to regret it... or not. As has been b4 it seems only to increase Biden's poll no's

[ecstatic]

6. They were unfair to DeBlasio as well.

I wish they had voter panels on so we could hear them instead. And not those stupid trumpkin panels. A panel of true blue democrats.

[emmaverybo]

10. A great idea. I don't think these on-parade debates, which demonstrate such a narrow

range of skills, qualifications, and knowledge should even be performance events. At this stage,
they are very limited auditions, with so many on stage, near cattle-calls.

[Bradical79]

12. A lot of people thought he was pretty awful -nt

[Cha]

14. Yeah, those who were already

against him.. ready to pounce.

[Bradical79]

18. Hardly

He gave a terrible response to Harris on his bussing stance, and his NRA comment were huge mistakes. He came across as bit of a mess, and extremely out of touch.

[emmaverybo]

21. A practiced and presumptive assessment, that "out of touch." He was right about local decisions

regarding bussing.

[Cha]

23. Sez you.

[Bradical79]

33. Yup sez me. And an awful lot of other people out there.

The guy will be a disaster as the candidate. I know you all have your favorite, but outside of this bubble, he's going to have some serious problems.

[Cha]

35. Outside of this "bubble" Biden

has been doing well.

Link to tweet

[emmaverybo]

36. YES. Cha saves the day. Once more. NT

[Cha]

39. Mahalo, emmaverybo! Please see here..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287173342

[emmaverybo]

41. K+R Mahalo, back to you. What the good senator said is important no matter the end result.

[Cha]

42. Yes, being so very true.

Thank You!

[Thekaspervote]

29. his response was measured and respectful treating her fairly which is more than I can say for her

[emmaverybo]

37. And here is where and how he shines. NT

[emulatorloo]

32. I don't think you know that bussing was controversial with AA community and liberals once

it was implemented. A lot of unintended consequences. Love Harris, but she oversimplified and misrepresented Biden’s positions and history. If she wants to get out of single digit polling she needs to promote herself and not do misleading attacks on other Democrats

I hope she does so, because she’s on my short list and I want her to succeed.

[emmaverybo]

38. +1

[LovingA2andMI]

28. A Lot of People....

Plenty of Them.

[onetexan]

15. and the moderators guthrie & chuck todd? ughh

[Honeycombe8]

22. Todd at least has cred as a moderator. Guthrie? No way.

She was "promoted" from political reporting to being a zany host on the morning show...talking coffee and fashion.

[brooklynite]

17. Yawn...

Biden had an uneven night. Pointing that out isn't "bashing".

[cbelle1039]

19. Sad.

[Honeycombe8]

20. Matthews likes Biden, actually. I don't know Kornacki & Reid well enuf...

except Joy Reid is pushing Harris.

[emmaverybo]

24. Joy Reid Twitter-bashed Biden supporters. Matthews today referred to age-appropriate vs, age

inappropriate candidates just before the debates.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. I noticed that, was a bit surprised at Matthews.

Reid didn't surprise me, and Kornacki is just a windbag. O'Donnell also seemed quite negative. But a lot of that is probably just the fun of trying to puncture the front-runner.

[emmaverybo]

40. You are right. Yes, that is their job. Stir the pot. NT

[Honeycombe8]

44. Others have complained that Matthews is all-in for Biden.

Matthews & Biden go way back, so they're pretty friendly. But even friends recognize each other's flaws.

Do you want media that offers reality, or just a rah-rah chorus, to protect you from what may happen in an election?

If one person doesn't like a candidate, for whatever reason, you can bet your boopy there are many others who feel the same way.

[JI7]

34. MSNBC has been pretty hostile to Biden.

[wyldwolf]

45. Same with Hillary in '16. Pretty much the same in '08

MSNBC, like FOX, is packed with hyper-partisans who cut their teeth in online forums and blogs (remember the term 'netroots?')