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wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:58 AM Jul 2019

Bernie Sanders is flailing and Elizabeth Warren is rising for many reasons...

Warren is better at communicating her policies even though they're similar to Sanders' being the most obvious.

But another issue may be a self-inflicted wound by Sanders: His self-identification as a socialist. Yes, I know the correct term is "Democratic-socialist,' but the public likely sees no difference and even that may very well be a drag on the entire party, possibly associating "Democratic" with socialism.

From the ABC Poll: Another question tests Trump against “a Democratic candidate who you regard as a socialist” – relevant given the Republicans’ stated aim of applying that label to their eventual opponent. Among the general public the race is tied among Trump vs. a perceived socialist; among registered voters it goes +6 to Trump, 49 to 43 percent, not a significant difference but noticeable.

https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1206a2Trumpandthe2020Election.pdf

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Bernie Sanders is flailing and Elizabeth Warren is rising for many reasons... (Original Post) wyldwolf Jul 2019 OP
It's a mistake Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #1
K&R stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #2
Just to clarify: is this bashing, slamming or smearing? brooklynite Jul 2019 #3
Neither. It's "comparing." When I 'bash' you'll know it. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #4
+1 Cha Jul 2019 #11
Agree. Bernie zentrum Jul 2019 #6
It is criticism of Sander's campaign strategy, not his fitness as a candidate. It does not make emmaverybo Jul 2019 #7
Warren has vastly more subtance to her proposals than Sanders does. comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #5
K&R. This makes sense. nt R B Garr Jul 2019 #8
I think that both Sanders and Warren appeal to folks who MineralMan Jul 2019 #9
K&R n/t Vegas Roller Jul 2019 #10
 

Turin_C3PO

(14,033 posts)
1. It's a mistake
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:06 AM
Jul 2019

for Sanders to label himself a socialist. Because in reality he’s not one. It’s only hurt his campaign to call himself such.

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brooklynite

(94,713 posts)
3. Just to clarify: is this bashing, slamming or smearing?
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:15 AM
Jul 2019

It’s hard to distinguish these days...

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wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
4. Neither. It's "comparing." When I 'bash' you'll know it.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:17 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
6. Agree. Bernie
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jul 2019

.....bashing is a big thing around here.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
7. It is criticism of Sander's campaign strategy, not his fitness as a candidate. It does not make
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jul 2019

an allegation that the opposition makes. The OP is not calling Bernie a socialist.

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comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
5. Warren has vastly more subtance to her proposals than Sanders does.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:37 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

R B Garr

(16,975 posts)
8. K&R. This makes sense. nt
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:18 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
9. I think that both Sanders and Warren appeal to folks who
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jul 2019

think about policy issues. Warren is more concrete in her policy points than Sanders is, really. She has a "plan" for everything. Bernie hasn't come up with much that's new for the 2020 election.

I think that's why Warren is rising in the polls and Sanders is staying flat or sinking. The policy voters want to hear about policy, and Warren is delivering that in more detail, which appeals to policy wonks.

Warren is also more likable in her public appearances. She smiles sometimes, and even laughs occasionally. Sanders is still waggling his index finger at the audience and scowling a lot of the time. All policy things being equal, the friendly face will attract more supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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