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riversedge

(70,205 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:12 PM Jul 2019

New poll, July 8: Biden Remains By Far the Strongest Candidate Against Trump





Biden Remains By Far the Strongest Candidate Against Trump



By Josh Marshall
July 8, 2019 10:49 am

When we think about politics all of us are prone to meld together things we support with things that are viable, possible, popular. With this in mind I want to flag to your attention one part of the WaPo/ABC news poll that came out over the weekend. One headline out of this poll is that Trump’s approval rating is the highest ever recorded for this particular poll. We shouldn’t draw too much from that data point since it’s only slightly higher than the average for this poll and to date other polls show no significant strengthening.

But I want to draw your attention to this finding.


I want to separate here what you may think of Joe Biden and his candidacy and fairly extensive data we have on his relative strength vs Trump. There are a lot of people out there insisting that Biden will be a general election trainwreck for the Democrats. He’s too old-fashioned, has too much baggage, is too indisciplined a campaigner, is too out of touch with the causes and issues that animate a younger and more diverse generation of voters. Each claim has a litany of evidence behind it. I mean, just a couple days ago he was saying he’d be open to renominating the 66 year old Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court.

Many argue that nominating Biden would encourage third party runs of the Jill Stein or Ralph Nader variety which, as I’ve argued, is almost a prerequisite for Trump’s reelection. I worry about this a great deal. But look at the other/neither/don’t know number. These are pretty small differences. But at least this poll provides little evidence for this.......................




https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/biden-remains-by-far-the-strongest-candidate-against-trump#more-1233675


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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New poll, July 8: Biden Remains By Far the Strongest Candidate Against Trump (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2019 OP
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #1
Word. nt Kahuna7 Jul 2019 #4
Mahalo, rivers! Cha Jul 2019 #2
all of our ppl are good...but im behind joe 100%.. samnsara Jul 2019 #3
I doubt Trump will be the Republican candidate. delisen Jul 2019 #5
Republicans need Maghats. They won't get rid of the Maghat king. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #6
I doubt it. Republicans are scared shit-less of Trump because of his base. He is their "king." demosincebirth Jul 2019 #7
I am watching the old guard of the Republican Party. They are not thrilled with Trump delisen Jul 2019 #11
The old guard must have had their vocal cords snippet. demosincebirth Jul 2019 #12
Yeah their vocal cords and something else too I suspect. UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #15
They are going to let the legal cases and courts do their thing. delisen Jul 2019 #18
I didn't think he would be the nominee in 2016 AdamGG Jul 2019 #9
We have good candidates bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #8
Likely, Biden would be more effective 1 on 1 against Dump than in the Dem primaries AdamGG Jul 2019 #10
K&R highplainsdem Jul 2019 #13
K&R Peacetrain Jul 2019 #14
"Biden Remains By Far the Strongest Candidate Against Trump" myohmy2 Jul 2019 #16
Biden leads trump by 14% among all adults Gothmog Jul 2019 #17

Response to riversedge (Original post)

 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
3. all of our ppl are good...but im behind joe 100%..
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

delisen

(6,043 posts)
5. I doubt Trump will be the Republican candidate.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:30 PM
Jul 2019

Trump's ties to Putin alarmed the Republican old guard a long time ago and it seems to me they have been busy working on a plan to save the Republican Party, contain Trump, and then ease him out or neutralize him.

Jeffrey Epstein trial may be their ticket or the New York investigation into Trump's business dealings-

I expect a to see a much different political landscape before actual primary season.








If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
6. Republicans need Maghats. They won't get rid of the Maghat king. NT
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:36 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
7. I doubt it. Republicans are scared shit-less of Trump because of his base. He is their "king."
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:40 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

delisen

(6,043 posts)
11. I am watching the old guard of the Republican Party. They are not thrilled with Trump
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 10:14 PM
Jul 2019

nor are they thrilled with his carrying out Putin's foreign policy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
12. The old guard must have had their vocal cords snippet.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 10:23 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
15. Yeah their vocal cords and something else too I suspect.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:08 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

delisen

(6,043 posts)
18. They are going to let the legal cases and courts do their thing.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:41 PM
Jul 2019

There will also be more information coming out on Russia.

They see no benefit to themselves in countering Trump publicly but they have a candidate ready when they decide the time is right. I doubt the candidte will be Pence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

AdamGG

(1,291 posts)
9. I didn't think he would be the nominee in 2016
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 10:05 PM
Jul 2019

I'm not going to doubt this motherfucker's ability to slime his way ahead until he's gone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,148 posts)
8. We have good candidates
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:48 PM
Jul 2019

Joe is my #1 or #2. He will go head to head with Trump, to put their boot on Trump's throat and keep it there. We need to attack. If we don't Trump starts Crooked, Crooked and name calling. Don't give it room to stick. We need to dominate the news cycle the way Obama did on the campaign trail. Trump cannot compete with Joe Biden's stature, Trump is low on credibility.

I am all in for whoever wins our primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AdamGG

(1,291 posts)
10. Likely, Biden would be more effective 1 on 1 against Dump than in the Dem primaries
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jul 2019

Joe knows he's from another generation and somewhat out of step with the Democratic base. He probably appears less effective trying to triangulate his position against other Democrats in the primaries than he would be when his opposition is the embodiment of the abhorrent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
16. "Biden Remains By Far the Strongest Candidate Against Trump"
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:08 PM
Jul 2019

...a year out...

...we need to let this unfold a little more...

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
17. Biden leads trump by 14% among all adults
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:10 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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