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Related: About this forumJoe Biden, stand up for your past and your progress
Hey, Joe Biden, stop. Stop apologizing.
Your civil relationship with former segregationist Sens. Herman Talmadge of Georgia and James Eastland of Mississippi four decades ago is nothing to regret talking about (Biden: I regret debate comments, July 7). Perhaps its alien to a new generation, but working with people you dont like or agree with is part of being an effective politician.
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But touting such a relationship nowadays as you did is inexcusable in the sanctimonious political world of progressives who take their cues from college students who shout down speakers they dislike. Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, Amy Klobuchar and others in varying ways demanded or applauded your later apology. Booker then groused that you took too long to grovel.
Harris sermon at the debate scolding you for your stance against federally enforced school busing implied there is only one, uncompromising way to view the controversy from the 1970s. She scoffed when you explained that you favored busing decisions made locally rather than mandated by Washington. But several days after the debate, Harris seemed more in line with your position. Asked if she favored federally mandated busing, she replied that busing should be considered by a school district. No apologies for any confusion.
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Hey Joe, flogging yourself over matters from an earlier generation plays into the hands of your primary opponents and their self-righteous politics. Did Lyndon Johnson seek forgiveness for not passing a tougher civil-rights bill in 1957 when he was Senate majority leader? Nope. He got it done in 1964 when he was president. Maybe George W. Bush should have apologized for starting a war in Iraq over nonexistent weapons. He didnt. You conceded in 2005 that it was a mistake to join most Senate Democrats in authorizing Bush to go to war.
Enough contrition. Its time to focus on convincing anxious Democratic voters that you have the chops to take on an unrepentant, belligerent president.
http://www.startribune.com/joe-biden-stand-up-for-your-past-and-your-progress/512606032/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Saviolo
(3,284 posts)What do they know, anyway? We got lots of great stuff done when we worked back then with unabashed racists, segregationists, white supremacists, and white nationalists. Who cares that giving them a seat at the big table gave them more and more legitimacy? And of course, once Trump's gone, the current racists and white nationalists in Congress and the Senate will immediately have an epiphany and come around and start working with the Democrats on all of these issues like LGBTQ+ rights, the environmental crisis, and the influx of refugees. Open racists like Rep Steve King (R-obviously) will just rush to the table, and Mitch McConnell will forget all about his years of obstruction under Obama so that once the GOP was in charge again it could stuff federal and state courts (and SCOTUS) with right wing ideologues, because (despite it being under Obama) it was all because of Trump.
It might be a good idea to listen to POC, because in the last few elections they have, as a group, outvoted any other demographic in favour of the Democrats. And if you don't engage with and energize college kids, they're just not gonna vote. The right wing college kids are being radicalized and energized by Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, and TPUSA, what do we have?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,768 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,935 posts)attitude.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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