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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 10:40 AM Jul 2019

Is Sherrod Brown thinking of running for president?

Bill Kristol thinks he is, at least partly based on a Cleveland.com article published yesterday:


Kristol's tweet:





If by Labor Day Biden is faltering and Buttigieg hasn't taken off and Dems seem to be looking at a top tier of blue state senators (MA, VT, CA, perhaps NJ), I've got to think Brown gets in as a Midwestern labor Dem who could unite the party and beat Trump.




Article at Cleveland.com:

https://www.cleveland.com/politics/2019/07/sherrod-brown-calls-electability-a-myth-to-liberal-crowd.html


In his roughly 10-minute address to the crowd in Philadelphia at Netroots Nation – a convention geared toward liberal activism and politics – Brown pumped up his Democratic bona fides and reiterated his criticism of Republican President Donald Trump, including calling him a racist.

-snip-

“The electability myth is, in fact, a myth. Let me tell you why,” Brown said. “Donald Trump won Ohio by almost double digits in 2016. Last year I won re-election by almost 7 points. I didn’t compromise on women’s rights. I never compromised on LGBTQ rights.”

Brown won re-election to a third term in 2018, the only Democrat to win statewide partisan office just two years after Trump, a Republican, won the state by 8 percentage points.

Following his November victory, he openly explored the idea of running for the presidency. Ironically, before deciding against a White House bid, voters often described Brown as “electable.”

-snip-

Brown’s Philadelphia address is the beginning of a busy weekend for the senator. On Sunday, he’ll travel to El Paso to visit the border and meet with immigration activists. On Monday, he’ll be in Pittsburgh for the installation of new officers for the United Steelworkers.



If it starts to look as though Biden won't be our nominee, I'd love to see Sherrod Brown enter the race. I'd prefer him to Sanders, Warren and Harris.

And I do think he's electable, so I'm not at all surprised to see in that article that voters describe him that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Is Sherrod Brown thinking of running for president? (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2019 OP
Is this our quick, another white guy strategy? BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #1
Exactly two Democrats have won statewide races in Ohio since 2006 dsc Jul 2019 #3
Actually 3 philf99 Jul 2019 #22
sorry I forgot about him dsc Jul 2019 #25
Nope, and that's an insulting take. I've always liked Brown, and I think his appeal to voters highplainsdem Jul 2019 #4
Love Brown. northoftheborder Jul 2019 #2
He was my first choice. I contributed money. MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #5
I love Sherrod Brown Ohiogal Jul 2019 #6
Connie Schultz would be a great First Lady. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #8
Conner Schultz is one of a kind. A recent tweet interaction: demmiblue Jul 2019 #17
He was my pick. BootinUp Jul 2019 #7
Don't we have enough great candidates already? RainCaster Jul 2019 #9
We've had a lot of candidates for months. I don't see any reason why Brown shouldn't join highplainsdem Jul 2019 #10
IDK, but when has Bill Kristol been correct about anythin? (granted, he is anti-Trump, but still) hlthe2b Jul 2019 #11
I can't be sure if Kristol's right, but he's reacting to that article, and I agree with him that it highplainsdem Jul 2019 #12
He lacks name recognition in much of the country flamingdem Jul 2019 #13
True at this point, but if he entered the race he'd immediately get so much media attention that highplainsdem Jul 2019 #14
But not in the Midwest, where votes are needed forthemiddle Jul 2019 #24
I know Sherrod; I know his daughter Elizabeth (former Ohio Dem Party Chair) brooklynite Jul 2019 #15
If Biden gets to that point Andy823 Jul 2019 #16
Didn't he already say a few months ago that he wasn't running? bearsfootball516 Jul 2019 #18
He did. And I don't see him changing his mind. marylandblue Jul 2019 #21
Hmm. Love Sherrod Brown. blue neen Jul 2019 #19
Bill Kristol is not the sharpest tool in the shed. marylandblue Jul 2019 #20
I tend to discount snowybirdie Jul 2019 #23
Bill Kristol Doesn't Want Any More Credit for Sarah Palin's Career. elleng Jul 2019 #26
 

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
1. Is this our quick, another white guy strategy?
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 10:48 AM
Jul 2019

I love Brown but when you’re talking “electability” here you’re really talking identity more than anything else. Policy-wise he brings nothing to the table that isn’t already there. The OH advantage is nice but I don’t see him generating as much enthusiasm among women as Warren or Harris so that’s pretty much a wash IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dsc

(52,160 posts)
3. Exactly two Democrats have won statewide races in Ohio since 2006
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jul 2019

Brown and Obama but yeah it is just his being a white male that makes him electable.

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philf99

(238 posts)
22. Actually 3
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jul 2019

Bill O'Neil won a seat on The Ohio Supreme Court in 2012

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dsc

(52,160 posts)
25. sorry I forgot about him
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jul 2019

but yes it was 3.

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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
4. Nope, and that's an insulting take. I've always liked Brown, and I think his appeal to voters
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 10:55 AM
Jul 2019

is very similar to Biden's. If for any reason Biden stops being the front-runner, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brown could quickly become the front-runner if he entered the race.

As for your objection that "Policy-wise he brings nothing to the table that isn’t already there" -- that's an objection that's been made for months by supporters of other current candidates against other candidates in the race.

I don't see why it should apply to Brown more than any of the others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MaryMagdaline

(6,854 posts)
5. He was my first choice. I contributed money.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jul 2019

If he doesn’t run, he’d make a great VP choice.

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Ohiogal

(31,989 posts)
6. I love Sherrod Brown
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:03 AM
Jul 2019

and can you imagine having Connie Schultz as First Lady?!?! Night and day from the present empty wooden mannequin in the WH now.

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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
8. Connie Schultz would be a great First Lady.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:05 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
17. Conner Schultz is one of a kind. A recent tweet interaction:
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:54 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

RainCaster

(10,870 posts)
9. Don't we have enough great candidates already?
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:06 AM
Jul 2019

Look at it from an abstract POV. In the 2016 election, the GOP had a large group of candidates, and the Russian media trolls made mincemeat of them to get DFT elected. Will it be any different in the 2020 election? We have so many small groups of people who want their 1-3% candidate to "win", that it's likely they will be destroyed by those Russian media clowns. The weakest candidate (as chosen by Putin) will then get torn apart by the GOP, with Vlad's help, in the general election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
10. We've had a lot of candidates for months. I don't see any reason why Brown shouldn't join
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:10 AM
Jul 2019

the race, if he wants to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,238 posts)
11. IDK, but when has Bill Kristol been correct about anythin? (granted, he is anti-Trump, but still)
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
12. I can't be sure if Kristol's right, but he's reacting to that article, and I agree with him that it
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jul 2019

sounds as if Brown might be thinking of running.

I'd be very surprised if there aren't a lot of people around him urging him to run.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
13. He lacks name recognition in much of the country
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:30 AM
Jul 2019

Especially coming in so late to the game that's not going to create a big impact, I believe.

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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
14. True at this point, but if he entered the race he'd immediately get so much media attention that
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:43 AM
Jul 2019

would change quickly.

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forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
24. But not in the Midwest, where votes are needed
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jul 2019

Let’s face it, California and New York, along with the rest of the Coastlines will go for the Dem candidate no matter what.
Why not go for someone that captures the Midwest too? I think those candidates could be Sherrod Brown, or my choice Amy Klobuchar?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
15. I know Sherrod; I know his daughter Elizabeth (former Ohio Dem Party Chair)
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jul 2019

He's not running.

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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
16. If Biden gets to that point
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:54 AM
Jul 2019

where it looks like he can't win the nomination, it will be because someone else has passed him up, and he can't possibly regain his momentum. So I am pretty sure whoever overtakes him will be the new front runner, and I really doubt if Brown would jump and and try to take over.

Contrary to what some say, we have other candidates that can take trump on, and win the general election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
18. Didn't he already say a few months ago that he wasn't running?
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
21. He did. And I don't see him changing his mind.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:15 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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blue neen

(12,319 posts)
19. Hmm. Love Sherrod Brown.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jul 2019

He could win, and that's what it's all about. We've got to beat the Orange Monster.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
20. Bill Kristol is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:13 PM
Jul 2019

In an article where Brown attacks the idea of electability, Kristol concludes that Brown would run because he is electable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
23. I tend to discount
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jul 2019

any suggestions on Democratic Candidates from Republicans. Remember, Bill is the guy who brought Sarah Palin into the political discussion.

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