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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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True Dough

(17,304 posts)
1. The stories in the news yesterday in regards to the latest studies
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:57 PM
Jul 2019

showing that climate change is REAL and human caused stated that we don't have 12 years to stop or reverse carbon emissions, we supposedly have more like 18 months. The next president won't even take office for about that long. Unless the rest of the world puts on the brakes then we're waaaaay up the boiling creek.

Kinda depressing. Hoping for some sort of breakthrough. Otherwise party like it's 1999!

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Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
3. That wouldn't surprise me, corporate conglomerate/fossil fuel interests will go from
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jul 2019

denial of the problem to it's too late to do anything about it on a dime.

That's just part of their political strategy to avoid actually doing anything about the climate change crisis.



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NNadir

(33,516 posts)
4. Speaking of denial, it would be interesting if old people caught up in tired 1960's rhetoric...
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jul 2019

...I'm speaking about at least one of the old farts running for President, the one who is a Senator from the only state in the Union ever to succeed on generating electricity without dangerous fossil fuels - a state of affairs no longer true - had been as much concerned with dangerous fossil fuel waste as he is with so called "nuclear waste."

Quick, which form of "waste" kills seven million people a year and which was doesn't?

Bernie Sanders applauded Vermont's new dependence on imported gas power. When Vermont Yankee was operating, the state required zero fossil fuels for electrical energy.

It's a bunch of tiresome bull that the entire onus for climate change rests on vague "corporate/fossil fuel" interests. It is, in fact, purely the equivalent of climate denial since it isn't true.

The cause of climate change is all of us, particularly those having as much contempt for science as to denigrate the work of Fermi, of Wigner, and Seaborg.

Thus to me, as a scientist, Bernie Sanders complaining about climate change is rather like Bill Barr or Mitch McConnell complaining about racism.

Nuclear energy saves lives: Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

It follows that opposing nuclear energy kills people. Sanders opposes nuclear energy.

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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
2. I need some of that heat still haven't had much of a summer yet up north. Temps in the 40's suck. nt
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:12 PM
Jul 2019
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