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Beto O'Rourke gets the April cover of Vanity Fair. (Original Post) Gothmog Mar 2019 OP
Will be interesting to hear some substance from him. elleng Mar 2019 #1
Indeed. He's got some of what it takes: an "X-factor". calimary Mar 2019 #3
Yep. image isn't everything jalan48 Mar 2019 #22
Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #30
Agree. Agschmid Mar 2019 #35
I wanted the same from Obama. joshcryer Mar 2019 #39
Yes, alright. elleng Mar 2019 #40
As long as it wasn't "present." joshcryer Mar 2019 #41
Confidence! And he has a Cha Mar 2019 #2
Will no longer trust any President without a dog. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #14
You notice every animal hates Trump....never trust a person, that animals don't sunonmars Mar 2019 #27
Dogs know creepy. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #32
Having a dog generally means the person has empathy forklift Mar 2019 #38
He's got "it" flamingdem Mar 2019 #4
He looks like Tom petty who was very sexy. notdarkyet Mar 2019 #15
I really like this guy. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2019 #5
I like him very much. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #6
I got to talk to him at the national convention Gothmog Mar 2019 #28
Good to know! Cha Mar 2019 #33
That quote goes beyond confidence. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #7
It sure does! peggysue2 Mar 2019 #8
It rubs me totally the wrong way. It sounds entitled and exclusive. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #9
Really??? peggysue2 Mar 2019 #10
I agree 100%. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #16
Yeah, a white dude saying he was born to be president isn't really the best look right now. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #58
You keep referring to O'Rourke as "the guy who lost to the guy who lost to trump".... George II Mar 2019 #59
Really............. Old Vet Mar 2019 #42
Really! WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #55
Agree. Tipperary Mar 2019 #49
More melodrama, less subtance. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #52
You spelled substance wrong lol. Tipperary Mar 2019 #53
Yeah, it's not even the slickness that gets me. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #56
Excellent point. Tipperary Mar 2019 #57
I'm sure you want it rub you the wrong way. Mission accomplished. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #51
I'm eager to find out. zentrum Mar 2019 #11
Beto is running Gothmog Mar 2019 #26
Star power blows away dullard normalcy Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #12
You can't buy publicity like that.... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #13
All good points. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #17
He's the guy trump is most afraid of running. He has youth, looks, charisma, all trump doesn't have notdarkyet Mar 2019 #18
Beto is a rockstar who appeals to youth, PoC, Latinos, women, etc. radius777 Mar 2019 #19
Good on him! Jeez... n/t sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #20
Nice doggy question everything Mar 2019 #21
Vanity Fair is a hot ticket. littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #23
Excellent photograph. I'll wait on the run. mahannah Mar 2019 #24
Beto is officially running Gothmog Mar 2019 #25
He's attractive and charismatic. That star quality can't be faked or learned. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #29
You're right peggysue2 Mar 2019 #31
Absolutely agree! Tipperary Mar 2019 #48
Look forward to reading the article. I subscribe but still have Miley Cyrus on the Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #34
Link to article: dalton99a Mar 2019 #66
Thanks. I'm sure mine will be delivered soon. Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #67
Go Beto Gothmog Mar 2019 #36
My gawd the race is going to be something else. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2019 #37
i like his dog JI7 Mar 2019 #43
Here is the Beto I got to see in Texas Gothmog Mar 2019 #44
+1 dalton99a Mar 2019 #45
This is interesting Gothmog Mar 2019 #60
+1. Very interesting, indeed dalton99a Mar 2019 #61
I have met Beto in person and I really like him Gothmog Mar 2019 #46
Of course, no woman gets the cover. Tipperary Mar 2019 #47
I just made my first donation of this cycle to a presidential candidate Gothmog Mar 2019 #50
I am going to do it, too. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #63
Me 2! McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #65
OMG! He is like all "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington!" McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #62
PS I think Karl Rove is in love again. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #64
 

elleng

(131,340 posts)
1. Will be interesting to hear some substance from him.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:43 PM
Mar 2019
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calimary

(81,566 posts)
3. Indeed. He's got some of what it takes: an "X-factor".
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:54 PM
Mar 2019

He has charisma. Lots of it. He gets people EXCITED! Young people especially, which is great. We need that demographic up, awake, and engaged bigtime - for now AND THE FUTURE! And there’s the fund-raising capability - which is WAY important. And at least some of the ideas, although I haven’t studied him enough to be an expert on him yet.

I do like what I see so far. And I sure would vote for him if he’s the nominee, but I vow to support WHOEVER our nominee is.

Nevertheless, for the time being, for me, anyway - as worried as I am about the climate crisis - everybody/anybody in the running would have to beat Jay Inslee.

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jalan48

(13,908 posts)
22. Yep. image isn't everything
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:18 PM
Mar 2019
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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
30. Precisely
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:36 PM
Mar 2019

I really want substance over image.

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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
35. Agree.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 09:41 PM
Mar 2019

I don’t know much.

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joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
39. I wanted the same from Obama.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:33 PM
Mar 2019

He turned out alright.

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elleng

(131,340 posts)
40. Yes, alright.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:40 PM
Mar 2019

Beto voting record?

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joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
41. As long as it wasn't "present."
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:49 PM
Mar 2019

I'm OK with him having Democratic Texan values.

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Cha

(297,975 posts)
2. Confidence! And he has a
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:50 PM
Mar 2019

dog!

Gracias, Goth

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LakeArenal

(28,864 posts)
14. Will no longer trust any President without a dog.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:29 PM
Mar 2019

Or at least a blooded creature that requires nurturing.

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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
27. You notice every animal hates Trump....never trust a person, that animals don't
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:27 PM
Mar 2019
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forklift

(401 posts)
38. Having a dog generally means the person has empathy
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:50 PM
Mar 2019

unless it is someone who has pitbulls trained for fights.

So I agree with you.

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notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
15. He looks like Tom petty who was very sexy.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:32 PM
Mar 2019
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,254 posts)
5. I really like this guy.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:06 PM
Mar 2019
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sheshe2

(84,031 posts)
6. I like him very much.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:19 PM
Mar 2019

He could wrap up the youth vote for sure.

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Gothmog

(145,827 posts)
28. I got to talk to him at the national convention
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:29 PM
Mar 2019

In early 2015. my son and I got to meet him at a small gathering at a bar. He is amazing in small groups

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Cha

(297,975 posts)
33. Good to know!
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 09:30 PM
Mar 2019
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,504 posts)
7. That quote goes beyond confidence.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:50 PM
Mar 2019
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peggysue2

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8. It sure does!
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:56 PM
Mar 2019

Born to be in it! And, running like there's nothing to lose.

Those tag lines alone send a clear message: I'm going to give this everything I've got. Here I come.

Good for him!

I'm really eager to see how this plays out.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,504 posts)
9. It rubs me totally the wrong way. It sounds entitled and exclusive.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:03 PM
Mar 2019

And I mean...born to lose to Ted Cruz?

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peggysue2

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10. Really???
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:13 PM
Mar 2019

Doesn't strike me like that but I've read other comments saying O'Rourke comes across too slick.

Again, I don't get that vibe but that's me. However this plays out, I think Beto O'Rourke will definitely stir things up.

We shall see.




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LakeArenal

(28,864 posts)
16. I agree 100%.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:35 PM
Mar 2019

I think he’s more confident than slick. More self/assured than arrogant.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,504 posts)
54. Yeah, a white dude saying he was born to be president isn't really the best look right now.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:28 PM
Mar 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
59. You keep referring to O'Rourke as "the guy who lost to the guy who lost to trump"....
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:28 PM
Mar 2019

...is that the only way you see Beto O'Rourke?

Maybe you should look at how Cruz did against trump and how O'Rourke did against Cruz. Cruz got 39% more votes than trump got, only 3% more than O'Rourke.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
52. More melodrama, less subtance.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:05 PM
Mar 2019

You should get that on a t-shirt... as it's the most consistent sentiment you exemplify.

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Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
53. You spelled substance wrong lol.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:06 PM
Mar 2019
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,504 posts)
56. Yeah, it's not even the slickness that gets me.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:32 PM
Mar 2019

It's the idea that this guy lost to Ted Cruz and thought, well heck, I must be presidential material instead!

Anyway, his policies, such as he's expressed so far, also aren't terribly exciting.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
51. I'm sure you want it rub you the wrong way. Mission accomplished.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:04 PM
Mar 2019

And in doing so, create that self-fulfilling prophecy every vague, un-sourced, simplistic allegation requires to be rationalized by the id.

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zentrum

(9,866 posts)
11. I'm eager to find out.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:17 PM
Mar 2019
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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
12. Star power blows away dullard normalcy
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:19 PM
Mar 2019

I'm still laughing at the assertions that Beto was waiting too late to enter. Talk about whiffing the big picture.

Many of our other candidates have to show up at all the coffee shops at 8 AM, and go through the run of the mill photo ops before heading to the next wave of appearances. Linear trudgery. A guy like Beto can vault beyond with one smile or quote.

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getagrip_already

(14,949 posts)
13. You can't buy publicity like that....
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:27 PM
Mar 2019

He has a lot going for him. He won't be 80 in 2020, he isn't from a state that is 94% white, and I'm sure he won't have any issues releasing his tax returns.

And publicity like this is gold. He can truly fight Trump on his favorite turf; in the eye of the media.

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notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
18. He's the guy trump is most afraid of running. He has youth, looks, charisma, all trump doesn't have
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:36 PM
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radius777

(3,635 posts)
19. Beto is a rockstar who appeals to youth, PoC, Latinos, women, etc.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:37 PM
Mar 2019

He's a white guy that has an ability (like RFK or Bill Clinton) of talking to any/all types of people in an authentic way.

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sprinkleeninow

(20,268 posts)
20. Good on him! Jeez... n/t
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 07:51 PM
Mar 2019
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littlemissmartypants

(22,853 posts)
23. Vanity Fair is a hot ticket.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:19 PM
Mar 2019

Good for Beto.

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mahannah

(893 posts)
24. Excellent photograph. I'll wait on the run.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:24 PM
Mar 2019
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Gothmog

(145,827 posts)
25. Beto is officially running
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:26 PM
Mar 2019
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,973 posts)
29. He's attractive and charismatic. That star quality can't be faked or learned.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:34 PM
Mar 2019

But I'm staying off his or anybody else's bandwagon for now. I do have some concerns about his relative lack of experience, and I hope when his campaign gets going he forgoes any further episodes of over-sharing. I don't want to see anybody, let alone a presidential candidate, get their teeth cleaned. In these days of posting every minute of one's life on social media, maybe a little dignity is in order and we won't have to see any more medical procedures, even if he thinks it appeals to the young legions of over-sharers on Twitter and Facebook. But I like him - maybe as a running mate for somebody if he doesn't get the nomination.

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peggysue2

(10,849 posts)
31. You're right
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:54 PM
Mar 2019

Whether people like it or not, the charged quality O'Rourke emits cannot be bought or faked. That's why he intrigues me because in politics you don't see many rock stars, people that generate this sort of attention and excitement when they first arrive on the scene.

That being said, the quality has upsides (the enormous PR factor) and downsides (overblown, easily deflated expectations).

It will be interesting to see how O'Rourke handles all this on a national stage.

I'll definitely be watching and listening.

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Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
48. Absolutely agree!
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:49 AM
Mar 2019

Spot on.

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Nanjeanne

(5,003 posts)
34. Look forward to reading the article. I subscribe but still have Miley Cyrus on the
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 09:40 PM
Mar 2019

cover. Should be in my mailbox soon.

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dalton99a

(81,692 posts)
66. Link to article:
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:40 PM
Mar 2019
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/beto-orourke-cover-story
Beto O’Rourke: “I’m Just Born to Do This”
Riding around with Beto O’Rourke as he comes to grips with a presidential run.
By Joe Hagan
Photography by Annie Leibovitz
March 13, 2019

It’s nine P.M. on a Thursday night and Beto O’Rourke is trying to manage a couple of life-altering and possibly world-historical political events while also driving his family home from a Mexican restaurant. Donald Trump will touch down in O’Rourke’s hometown of El Paso in four days to hold a rally and whip up excitement for a wall along the border with Mexico. O’Rourke’s iPhone is pinging with texts asking what he plans to do about it—and also whether he’s going to run for president of the United States of America.

Henry, age eight, weighs in from the back of the Toyota Tundra.

“Dad, if you run for president, I’m going to cry all day,” he says.

“Just the one day?” asks O’Rourke, hopefully.


Beto O’Rourke, photographed with son Henry, 8, and Artemis at his home in El Paso, Texas.


Molly, Henry, and O’Rourke in the music room.


O’Rourke prepares Sunday morning pancakes.


O’Rourke with daughter Molly, 10; son Ulysses, 12; wife Amy; and Henry at Franklin Mountains State Park, in El Paso.
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Nanjeanne

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67. Thanks. I'm sure mine will be delivered soon.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:48 PM
Mar 2019
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Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
37. My gawd the race is going to be something else.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:40 PM
Mar 2019
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Gothmog

(145,827 posts)
44. Here is the Beto I got to see in Texas
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:47 AM
Mar 2019
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dalton99a

(81,692 posts)
61. +1. Very interesting, indeed
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:20 PM
Mar 2019
Mr. O’Rourke’s improvement came almost exclusively from white voters, and particularly college-educated white voters. Whites probably gave him around 33 percent of their votes, up from a mere 22 percent for Mr. Obama in 2012.

There’s clearly additional upside for Democrats if they could pair their recent gains among white voters with improvement among Hispanic voters (through some combination of persuasion, higher turnout among registrants and newly registered voters).

Can Democrats really turn out Hispanic voters in huge numbers in Texas? There are real barriers, and you wouldn’t expect Hispanic Democrats to turn out in particularly high numbers given their low turnout elsewhere in the country. It is far-fetched to suggest Hispanic mobilization will fundamentally transform the electorate and turn Texas into a blueish state anytime soon.

But a more modest increase in turnout or support among Hispanic voters is fairly likely if Texas sees the campaign dollars and attention that come with a contested state in a presidential year. When Mr. Obama contested Virginia, North Carolina and Colorado in 2008, the turnout there increased by an average of 13 percent to 23 percent over 2004 levels, which included a mix of higher turnout among registrants and thousands of newly registered voters. Given the extraordinary turnout in the 2018 midterm election nationwide, it is plausible that turnout will be up substantially in Texas regardless of whether the state is a battleground.


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Gothmog

(145,827 posts)
46. I have met Beto in person and I really like him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:41 AM
Mar 2019

I woke up to see an e-mail from Beto. I got to talk to Beto at the National Convention just briefly. In early 2015, Beto spoke to a small group at a tavern in my county. My son and I got to see Beto up close and he is amazing. I made a couple of rallies and heard him at the state convention. Beto is perhaps the best retail politician that I have seen since President Obama.

I like Beto a great deal and Beto could flip Texas which is a goal that I have been working towards for a very long time. I am still torn between Beto, Biden and Harris but my main goal is anyone but sanders.


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Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
47. Of course, no woman gets the cover.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:48 AM
Mar 2019

Smh.

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Gothmog

(145,827 posts)
50. I just made my first donation of this cycle to a presidential candidate
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:50 PM
Mar 2019
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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
63. I am going to do it, too.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:39 PM
Mar 2019
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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
62. OMG! He is like all "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington!"
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:38 PM
Mar 2019
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McCamy Taylor

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64. PS I think Karl Rove is in love again.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:48 PM
Mar 2019
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