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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:09 AM

 

my take on the debate (not that it matters much)

1. Pete Buttigieg was the most well-spoken and made the most sense. I mean, this guy is gooood.

2. Warren had less time than expected. Loved her "racism is domestic terrorism' line. But she seem flustered at times, gave angry glares and shuffled her notes looking for how to respond to certain lines of questioning. She didn't bring her A-Game but her B-game was good enough for second place tonight.

3. Sanders was shut out by the moderates on stage who knew exactly what he was going to say and were ready to counter it. Gee, wonder why? Could it be because he says the same things every time we see him? PS: The 'damn bill' you wrote, on the outside chance you're elected, won't be the bill that goes before congress - you won't write that one.

NOTE: Acting angry, waving your arms, rolling your eyes, and making promises that have no chance of going anywhere only impresses the further left of the party who are thoroughly convinced you won the night.

4. SURPRISE! Williamson... good on reparations. Losing issue. She had more time and made better points than I or most expected. Her debate prep obviously included essential oils.

5. Beto is like a standout college football player getting a rude awakening in the pros. Welcome to the NFL, muthafucka! Now scrape yourself off the turf and get back into the game.

6. The moderate wing. None have a chance to win but were the perfect foils for Warren and Sanders, both of whom had issues at times defending their positions and often appeared angry they were even being challenged.

7. Klobuchar - smart but forgettable. She deserves more, but won't get it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply my take on the debate (not that it matters much) (Original post)
wyldwolf Jul 2019 OP
Cha Jul 2019 #1
watoos Jul 2019 #2
wyldwolf Jul 2019 #3
BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #4
Chemisse Jul 2019 #11
WhoWoodaKnew Jul 2019 #5
Tipperary Jul 2019 #9
thesquanderer Jul 2019 #6
wyldwolf Jul 2019 #7
Tipperary Jul 2019 #8
oasis Jul 2019 #10
Gothmog Jul 2019 #12
elocs Jul 2019 #13

Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:12 AM

1. Thanks.. that was interesting..

 

fwiw!
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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:33 AM

2. The debate questions were set up to bring down

 

Sanders and Warren, ask yourself why?

I will be curious to see if the debate questions tonight are rigged to bring down Biden and Warren.

Here's another question, how many of our present 20 candidates are to the left of Teddy Roosevelt? My how far our country has shifted to the right that Bernie and Warren are called radicals but it's normal for Republicans to give 1.5 trillion dollars to the rich. Bernie should have been angry, so should all of them.
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Response to watoos (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:35 AM

3. so you think the debate was rigged against Sanders (and Warren?)

 

Where have I heard that before...
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Response to watoos (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:36 AM

4. They'll be propping up Biden

 

But they better prop hard because he has trouble making it through 20-minute speeches these days and last nightís debate lasted 2 hrs and 45 minutes.
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Response to watoos (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:43 AM

11. It's probably a good thing.

 

We need to have an idea about how the far left is going to fare under GOP questioning as well.

The idea is to win in the general. If the left wing can't provide compelling support for its ideas, we will have to go slightly more moderate.
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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:40 AM

5. If Beto is a rookie in the NFL then he stands no chance against Trump/the republicans (the mafia)

 

At least the NFL has rules.
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Response to WhoWoodaKnew (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:54 AM

9. Lol.

 

Good point.
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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:42 AM

6. Klobuchar sounded nervous. And I don't see where she offers anything...

 

...that isn't available in stronger candidates like Biden, Harris, Buttigieg, or Beto. Her "lane" is too crowded, and she's driving a sub-compact.
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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:45 AM

7. good analogy!

 

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:52 AM

8. Good analysis.

 

I think you are pretty much spot on.
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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:55 AM

10. I was pleasantly surprised by the performances of all candidates. DNC

 

Chair, Perez delivered an inspiring speech which set the mood for the evening. By the end of the debate, I never was prouder to be a Democrat.
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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:58 AM

12. I think that Biden won last night

 

I agree with this analysis https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/31/dem-debate-gop-strategists-roundup-227491?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Joe Biden won this debate. The candidates on stage really went after each other tonight and in ways that highlighted how extreme some of their views are. The moderates on stage, who have no chance of winning, spent their time highlighting how far left and unelectable Warren and Sanders are. They were doing Bidenís work for him and he didnít even get his hands dirty.
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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:23 AM

13. "NOTE: Acting angry, waving your arms, rolling your eyes, and making promises that have no chance

 

of going anywhere only impresses the further left of the party who are thoroughly convinced you won the night."
Absolutely right!
Promises are cheap and easy when you do not have a plan for as to how they will ever become law because the truth is that none of them will become law anytime soon.
But then too many Democrats have the notion that anybody they throw at Trump can beat him so it doesn't matter how far left the nominee is.
Of course if a far left candidate gets nominated and loses to Trump, none of them will ever admit that their views contributed to that defeat.
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