E Warren Appreciation Thread: "We are the Democrats."

[lapucelle]

"We are not about trying to take away health care from anyone."

Thank you for that, Senator Warren. Some people need reminding of exactly what our party is about and the big ideas that we've fought for and put into practice for generations.

[bluewater]

1. K&R

[RainCaster]

18. The WaPo says "Elizabeth Warren was the standout"

Here's the link

Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) distinguished themselves during Tuesday night’s Democratic Party presidential primary debate in Detroit, pulling away from the pack. Nobody else broke through. Sanders and Warren both know what they believe and they can express it without appearing phony, rehearsed or synthetic. They stood apart from the other candidates on the stage: From one to 10, here’s how the competitors emerged from the first of two nights of debates on CNN:

(my summary)
1. Elizabeth Warren - "the best natural candidate in the field"
2. Bernie Sanders - actually well spoken
3. Mayor Pete - thoughtful and well organized, but he's not it
4. Amy Klobuchar - consistently in the weeds
5. Beto - we are not in Texas anymore
6-9 (who cares)
10. Marianne Williamson (She spoke a lot of words, but she said nothing)

[PatrickforO]

49. Interestingly that article is an opinion piece by a Republican analyst.

The 'it factor' indeed. I guess time will tell.

Tonight's debate was very good too. The gloves came off. The media spin is off, of course.

[TruckFump]

2. Outstanding job last evening by Elizabeth Warren.

[sagesnow]

3. Elizabeth had another great debate performance last night.

Go Liz!

[50 Shades Of Blue]

4. K & R

[monmouth4]

5. Exciting, brilliant and wonderful all round person..n/t

[lapucelle]

7. She made me proud to be a Democrat.

[lapucelle]

6. Bump

[KPN]

8. K&R! Warren rocks as always!

[zentrum]

9. Love her a lot!

[ehrnst]

10. Indeed! (nt)

[still_one]

11. Warren is proud to associate herself with Democrats, unlike someone else

[NurseJackie]

19. I like that she doesn't smear and denigrate the Democratic party. Party loyalty is important to me.

[watoos]

28. Did you watch the debate?

Did you hear Warren say that she was tired of hearing Republican talking points regarding health care. I'm pretty stupid but that was a big shot at the Democrats on the stage.

[NurseJackie]

30. I have yet to hear her call the Democratic party "feeble" or "corrupt". She has never suggested...

It's unclear to me what you're driving at, but I can tell you that I have yet to hear her call the Democratic party "feeble" or "corrupt". She has never suggested that there's no difference between the Democrats and the GOP. I also haven't heard her say that Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt". She never gives any indication that she holds great contempt for the party.

[lapucelle]

35. Maybe it was a shot at the claim that

"Republicans aren't afraid of big ideas"

[Moral Compass]

12. This is why Senator Warren is my pick.

[Scotch-Irish]

14. She is so sharp!!

Democrats just couldn't go wrong with her. She can hold her own against anyone, because
#1 She knows what she's talking about
#2 She loves her country
#3 She knows what's right

[Karadeniz]

15. Last campaign I was hoping she would run. She's just fabulous!

[stuffmatters]

40. Ditto. So glad that she's now fighting the best fight.

[silentEcho]

16. Warren is a solid Dem. Imagine my surprise waking up this morning to learn Warren,

who I am presently supporting, is being claimed by the "Sanders coalition" far left that damaged the party and elections in 2016. I am supporting a Democrat that is aligned with our other Democratic Leaders. If they continue this game, I can easily switch my support to Harris, Guttigieg, Klobuchar and even Biden.

[Hortensis]

22. Totally predictable, don't let it bother you. They claim FDR (!)

as theirs, just as Repubs claim Lincoln. That's just something that comes with being the only party with admirable and occasionally genuinely great leaders.

[silentEcho]

23. It literally makes me sick.

[Hortensis]

25. Then put them on your ignore list. Don't give people you

find offensive power over you. Maybe you could consider sympathizing? A tiny bit? It can't be easy watching the one wonderful candidate (the only one who can save us from whatever disaster is currently impending) always lose to terrible ones, every election, decade after decade.

Personally, I don't want to see what'll happen when Sanders turns on her. She is a committed establishment Democrat, after all. He has a lifetime of contempt and zero tolerance for them all, no matter how he's hugging and smiling to appropriate some of her approval right now. But, I just won't read all the spewing that'll be inevitable. Problem solved.

[silentEcho]

27. After 2016 and the bros. Sitting with this SC beating up our women and girls. No sympathy. Nope.

My sympathy sits with all that is being hurt today.

[Hortensis]

33. :) Okay. I can only admire your commitment.

[calimary]

17. That killer quote wherein she ate Delaney's lunch, dinner, and midnight snack

gets my vote for line-of-the-night!

[Saviolo]

34. Killer quote indeed!

It was awfully rude of her to murder Delaney in front of all those people like that!

Someone even edited Delaney's Wikipedia page last night:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAxLpAaXUAAjhzL?format=jpg&name=small

Link to tweet

?s=20

[calimary]

42. OWWWWWCH!

[Hortensis]

20. "We are not about trying to take away health care from anyone." YES!

"We are the Democrats." I loved her for saying that!

[AllyCat]

21. We have so many great candidates, but she really stood out last night

I couldn't watch as I was working, but BBC was reporting on her performance last night on the drive home...fantastic!

[paleotn]

24. Or....

Allowing it to remain so damn expensive, only the well employed or wealthy can afford it. Or, allowing American families to be forced into bankruptcy in order to save the life of a family member.

I think the country needs to be reminded daily what our party is about. What it's really about. AND what our opposition is about.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Props to Elizabeth!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[lapfog_1]

29. she made one mistake in the spin room last night

she wouldn't admit that M4A would mean an increase of taxes.

She kept saying it would lower costs.

I know what she was trying to say... yes your taxes will go up, but you total costs will go down because you or your employer will not pay for private insurance AND you will get similar care for less total out of your pocket (co-pays, prescriptions, etc).

All of which might be true ON THE AVERAGE... but for specific people with little or almost no health care issues... they will probably pay more and it will be in the form of higher taxes. Corporations will pay higher taxes too but without the burden of paying for those private insurance plans... probably close to a wash for them.

And people will be covered no matter what happens to them job wise, etc.

But that is hard to explain in a sound bite... she needs a sound bite that explains this concept to folks like Matthews and she needs to say "yes, taxes will go up BUT your total cost will be lower". She just couldn't say "taxes will be higher" because she knows the media and the repukes will nail her with that tag line.

[lapucelle]

36. Not giving the media and Republicans the sound bite they were baiting was a mistake?

No it wasn't.

[lapfog_1]

45. her mistake was looking like she wouldn't answer the question.

especially when it was hammered at her... she would just say "the cost would be lower" and without the explanation it appeared that she was avoiding admitting the truth

[stuffmatters]

39. She's not allowing the GOP,Media to one one dimensionally mislabel her.

It's not her problem to support or affirm their fragmented misrepresentations and self promoting ignorance.

[lapfog_1]

46. so yeah... and the people with decent IQs and an eduction

get that... unfortunately they aren't the only ones that vote... and there are many more average to less than average people (some willfully uninformed so there is no reaching them) who vote

[AlexSFCA]

50. disagree

she was trolling the media for being obsessed with baiting. The increase in taxes will be offset by waving ‘out of pocket’ costs for health care so the net amount of money a family gets to keep would be higher. The main tax increase will be on 1% or less. She actually sold MFA to me as I wasn’t on board and preferred public option as a bridge. But if you start with public option as a negotiating point, you’ll end up with status quo. If you start with MFA, maybe you’ll get public option first.
She made most dems look like chicken afraid of repubs (embarassing).

[watoos]

31. I'm not up on the rules here,

that's why I'm hanging by a thread.

Who all are we allowed to bash besides Bernie, Tulsi, and Marianne Williamson? (sarcasm)

[crazytown]

32. Trump

[lapucelle]

37. This is an Elizabeth Warren appreciation thread. N/T

[mac56]

51. Gillibrand

[corbettkroehler]

38. I Support Sanders And LOVED That Line

She laid it on the line like nobody's business!

[stuffmatters]

41. You simply don't bring an ALEC,GOP, DINO butterknife to a Liz Warren policy debate.

Hope the Media via CNN Mods learned this last night. As well as some of her fellow candidates.

[betsuni]

43. K&R

[DCofVA]

44. I had high expectations for Elizabeth going into last night's debate.

She exceeded them.

[warmfeet]

47. She is the president we deserve.

After all these crappy, horrible repub presidents - don't we deserve someone this good?

Come on! We deserve Elizabeth Warren.

[The Wizard]

48. k&r