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hlthe2b

(102,674 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:00 PM Jul 2019

The #1 issue for Dems (beyond defeating Trump) is health care. Does anyone think this debate

clarified this issue or allowed ANY of the candidates to make clear their policy and differences?

I think the way it was handled in this debate was merely theater and just muddied the waters more. I find it frustrating as hell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. The US corporate media prefers theater to substance.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jul 2019

The debate format shows that.

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Bradshaw3

(7,560 posts)
2. It's the format
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jul 2019

Just not intended for thoughful policy debates. Not enough time and it's all about theatrics.

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JI7

(89,322 posts)
3. debates these days are always theater. there are many ways to find out
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jul 2019

about candidates positions.

the debates are the worst way.

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Cha

(298,423 posts)
5. That's too bad.. seems like
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jul 2019

that was the mods/cnn's goal?

Btw, health care was the Numero Uno issue in the 2018 Blue Wave Midterms.. and they WON on ACA.

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uponit7771

(90,382 posts)
6. Not enough, CNN wants fireworks and twerking instead of substantive answers
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:06 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,612 posts)
7. I did not watch either of the debates, but my impression from reading here was yesterday's debate
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:07 PM
Jul 2019

was more substantive


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elleng

(131,683 posts)
10. Yes, but this one's not over yet;
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:09 PM
Jul 2019

1st and 2d halves of yesterday's were very different.

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elleng

(131,683 posts)
8. No, the issue (and everyone's 'solutions') are too complex to be clarified in such as forum.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:07 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bigtree

(86,050 posts)
9. it was confusing
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:09 PM
Jul 2019

...not a good place to look for answers on Dems and health care reform.

Private insurance took a big hit.

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tulipsandroses

(5,151 posts)
11. No it has not provided any clarity for most Americans
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:11 PM
Jul 2019

Thats what these candidates are forgetting - They don't need to debate the nuts and bolts of each plan to each other. They need to sell it to the American people. Trillions vs billions, 5 yrs vs 10 yrs - Sorry none of that matters to the average viewer who is worried about their co pays or all the other issues concerning insurance that people worry about- how much is coming out of their pay check every month, is this covered? How much is that drug gonna cost? How much is that lab test gonna cost? The doc ordered that lab but my insurance doesn't cover it so I'm not gonna do it. So maybe I don't find out what illness I have till its more advanced. How is your plan better than the one that these people already have?

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Music Man

(1,184 posts)
12. The sheer number of candidates has made it impossible to dive deeply into the issue.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:13 PM
Jul 2019

It's a shame, because there's a true, grand discussion to be had about health care. Real distinctions between private plans, a public option, and single payer. I love getting into the weeds in this topic (especially because I'm a proponent of single payer, and I appreciate when it's put to the stress test--I want it to work). But it just becomes silly questions and talking points where they're talking past one another:

Q: "Will you raise taxes on Americans?"
A: "Overall costs will go down."
Q: "BUT WILL YOU RAISE TAXES?"

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
13. #1 issue should be climate change (n/t)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:15 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hlthe2b

(102,674 posts)
14. I'm just referring to recent polling. I don't disagree with you on climate change.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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