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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:00 PM

 

The #1 issue for Dems (beyond defeating Trump) is health care. Does anyone think this debate

clarified this issue or allowed ANY of the candidates to make clear their policy and differences?

I think the way it was handled in this debate was merely theater and just muddied the waters more. I find it frustrating as hell.
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM

1. The US corporate media prefers theater to substance.

 

The debate format shows that.
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM

2. It's the format

 

Just not intended for thoughful policy debates. Not enough time and it's all about theatrics.
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM

3. debates these days are always theater. there are many ways to find out

 

about candidates positions.

the debates are the worst way.
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:04 PM

4. Agree!

 

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:04 PM

5. That's too bad.. seems like

 

that was the mods/cnn's goal?

Btw, health care was the Numero Uno issue in the 2018 Blue Wave Midterms.. and they WON on ACA.
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:06 PM

6. Not enough, CNN wants fireworks and twerking instead of substantive answers

 

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:07 PM

7. I did not watch either of the debates, but my impression from reading here was yesterday's debate

 

was more substantive


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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:09 PM

10. Yes, but this one's not over yet;

 

1st and 2d halves of yesterday's were very different.
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:07 PM

8. No, the issue (and everyone's 'solutions') are too complex to be clarified in such as forum.

 

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:09 PM

9. it was confusing

 

...not a good place to look for answers on Dems and health care reform.

Private insurance took a big hit.
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:11 PM

11. No it has not provided any clarity for most Americans

 

Thats what these candidates are forgetting - They don't need to debate the nuts and bolts of each plan to each other. They need to sell it to the American people. Trillions vs billions, 5 yrs vs 10 yrs - Sorry none of that matters to the average viewer who is worried about their co pays or all the other issues concerning insurance that people worry about- how much is coming out of their pay check every month, is this covered? How much is that drug gonna cost? How much is that lab test gonna cost? The doc ordered that lab but my insurance doesn't cover it so I'm not gonna do it. So maybe I don't find out what illness I have till its more advanced. How is your plan better than the one that these people already have?
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:13 PM

12. The sheer number of candidates has made it impossible to dive deeply into the issue.

 

It's a shame, because there's a true, grand discussion to be had about health care. Real distinctions between private plans, a public option, and single payer. I love getting into the weeds in this topic (especially because I'm a proponent of single payer, and I appreciate when it's put to the stress test--I want it to work). But it just becomes silly questions and talking points where they're talking past one another:

Q: "Will you raise taxes on Americans?"
A: "Overall costs will go down."
Q: "BUT WILL YOU RAISE TAXES?"
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:15 PM

13. #1 issue should be climate change (n/t)

 

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:16 PM

14. I'm just referring to recent polling. I don't disagree with you on climate change.

 

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