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Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:52 AM Aug 2019

When do we spend more time attacking the Obama administration than the Trump debacle

that passes for an administration.. what the hell.. Joe Biden took the incoming in that I fully expected.. and others ran away from questions that were asked.. could not handle the heat.. could not stand there and take it on.. will never be able to stand up to the Trump who has no moral center or compass.. VP Biden was the only one who looked like he was ready for the fray..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
1. When Biden decided to run for president
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:58 AM
Aug 2019

He was a key part of the administration and rightfully runs on the better parts of that record. Obviously others would like for that not to count as much in his favor.

Just as importantly... these are Democratic debates. We're trying to choose amongst a large field and they're trying to distinguish themselves from one another. "How much do you hate Trump" isn't going to find much light between them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
2. Not only that
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:10 AM
Aug 2019

a woman will not win. Why? Americans lag way behind when it comes to electing women leaders. That is why I think a woman should be the VP running mate. Let the country see her as VP. Then she will be ready to be president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
4. A woman can win.. . and even smack back at the current resident
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:18 AM
Aug 2019

but..you have to be able to stand up to it, as well as dish it.. and right now outside of VP Biden I am not seeing any man or woman who seems to me to be able to back down the national racist..I am not disliking our people (well there are a couple who do not make my top ten list for a cup of coffee with).. but we have never had such a empty suit that has nothing you can tag him with.. one of my biggest worries is that people think he is going to be easy to take down.. hes not..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
6. I believe a woman can win. As a woman, I've wanted to see a woman become president all my life. But
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:22 AM
Aug 2019

at this time, I believe Biden is the best candidate, and as much as I'd like to see a woman in the Oval Office I'll always back theeperson I consider the best candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
9. That is where I am at.. and have been from the get go..
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:25 AM
Aug 2019

VP Biden is the best we have running to take on the Trump.. and there has been nothing to dissuade me from that with these debates.. in fact it has just hardened my original take on the matter..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. CNN set it up for strife. If you recorded, maybe fast forward
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:15 AM
Aug 2019

from chyron to chyron to review the kind of questions they were supposed to answer in 30- and 60-second bits.

It didn't just make us look far less worthy than we are overall, but one observer suggested CNN was also trolling for sound bites that could be used in future RW attack ads and another year and a half of CNN attack panels. This time there's no Hillary who can be "credibly" badmouthed by everyone in every mention to really enliven them, but those invited are doing their job with what they are given anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
7. I am right there with you on that one.. that was ugly
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:23 AM
Aug 2019

I am so sick and tired of this cage match debates because it just turns people off.. I was with some pretty upset people last night.. it was not good.. of course my friends are more my political persuasion.. I am liberal .. they are liberals.. so that is why we are so close.. but I think that might be my last debate party..that was exhausting

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. I hadn't even thought what this would do to debate parties!
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:27 AM
Aug 2019

Not enough liberals within an easy drive home here for one. I'm sorry. "Cage-match" is an excellent term for that setup.

We'll change it, though. Eventually. The big cable networks have gotten far too corrupt, arrogant and greedy for their own good.

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Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
12. 96% approval among Democrats for President Obama.. I do not even know where to begin
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:36 AM
Aug 2019

that some look at demeaning all that President Obama has accomplished

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Just guessing, but maybe Booker and Harris assume it
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:59 AM
Aug 2019

would mostly be understood and forgiven by the AA monolith if it helped one or both "break out" of the pack and become a top contender? I'm sure many are hoping that'll happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
14. "Just guessing"...
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:02 AM
Aug 2019

What do you mean? Are you 'guessing' that Harris and Booker may think that the black community would vote for them just because they are black?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. "Just guessing" you should re-read my post.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:13 AM
Aug 2019

No one likes straw man responses, but this was probably just a misunderstanding you can correct all by yourself.

Goodbye.

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Joe Biden

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Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
11. No one who came after the Obama Administration did themselves any good with
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:33 AM
Aug 2019

people I know.. wow.. that was got a lot of boo birds going at my house..

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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
8. aside from his opening
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:24 AM
Aug 2019

...what did Joe say about Trump?

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Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
15. The Obama administration was under attack
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:02 AM
Aug 2019

by Democrats, because Joe Biden was part of it and a lot of other people want to be the nominee instead of Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
17. Attacking President Obama
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:09 AM
Aug 2019

To get to Vice President Biden is the quickest way to end you campaign for President.

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