For just those of you who have already chosen your favorite candidate, who would be your 2nd choice?

[mtnsnake]

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If your 1st choice doesn't win the nomination, who would be your 2nd choice to win it?

[True Dough]

1. Elizabeth Warren remains my second pick n/t

[obamanut2012]

2. Harris is a very close #2 for me

And, I never thought I would say this, but His Honor is #3.

[True Blue American]

3. I do not have a choice

But have narrowed the ones I would choose to those who speak about real issues and how they plan to implement them..

Those off my list are those who attack other Democrats. You do that, off my list.

We hear enough attacks from the other side. You attack, you are doing Trump a favor.

[Peacetrain]

4. Buttigieg or Warren

they are 50 50 with me.. Very comfortable with either of them

[thesquanderer]

5. Behind Warren, I have Buttigieg.

I think the two of them would make a great ticket.

[marlakay]

63. I go back and forth whether

Pete is number one or Warren. I like them both but lately Liz has a fire I love.

[thesquanderer]

67. That's my issue with Pete. Sure, super smart, but he needs to show some passion. (n/t)

[TheFarseer]

96. But that's his thing

He’s the cool customer cerebral candidate.

[thesquanderer]

99. I know, and I find Spock appealing, but I'm afraid you also need to be a little Kirk to beat Trump.

[Sherman A1]

6. I would likely

look at Warren and/or Sanders.

I do know that Harris and O'Rouke are near the bottom of the list based upon what I have seen.

[CanonRay]

7. Harris is my #2

[Funtatlaguy]

8. Harris

[Devil Child]

9. Sanders n/t

[OKNancy]

10. Harris

I was on her team at first, but then changed because although I really like her, I fear she won't win the electoral college.
The EC is EVERYTHING.

[ALBliberal]

11. Mayor Pete or Warren nt

[at140]

12. Any democrat, already declared or a surprise pick..nt

[area51]

13. 2nd choice

Elizabeth Warren.

[Little Star]

14. Elizabeth Warren

[Qutzupalotl]

15. Biden or Warren

All three are fantastic. The others are merely good.

[comradebillyboy]

16. Biden is my number two right now.

[FBaggins]

17. Should be asked in public polls more often

It would give the party a better sense of how the race might shift as the field narrows.

[mtnsnake]

24. I think that's a great idea and should be suggested to the pollsters

For all we know, many of the same people choosing any of the top 5 polling candidates might have the same "2nd choice" candidate in mind, which could be more than significant in the long run.

[rollin74]

18. for me, Harris is a close second

either Warren or Harris would be great

[Demsrule86]

19. Don't have one. I will vote for any nominee but I think only Biden can win

a general in the electoral college...the rest might win popular vote...some of them. I also think would lose the. house if we run on MFA.

[LakeArenal]

81. Same here. 😉

[Indygram]

20. Beto O'Rourke is my first choice

And for the primary, he is my only choice. No matter the situation, in the Democratic primary I am voting for Beto O'Rourke, even if it were to require writing him in.

For the general election I either vote FOR Beto or Against Trump.

[wyldwolf]

26. So we'll put you down for "my guy or the highway." OK.

[Indygram]

30. Beto inspired me to change my party affiliation just so I can vote for him in the primary

No one else in my entire life has been able to motivate me to do that. I have been unaffiliated/Independent for over 35 years. Damn straight for the primary Beto is the only one who gets my vote. He EARNED it. No one else has.
During the primary is when people get to vote for who they believe will be the best president. That's what I'm doing. If you have a problem with that, well, that's too bad.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

60. why no other, may I ask?

I'm having a harder time with a second choice than first. One more debate with fewer candidates should do it.

I thought Beto did far better Tuesday than he was given credit for. So based on that he passed several other candidates on my list.

[Indygram]

65. He's the only one I believe can deliver a decisive win against Trump

But that's only part of the reason.

This will be my first time voting in a primary. The primary is closed where I live, so I wasn't able to vote before. I'm changing party from Independent to Democratic JUST so I CAN vote for Beto. That's how much I believe in him. If not for Beto I would not vote in the primary at all. He is the only reason I'm voting in it, so that primary vote goes ONLY to him.

Like Obama, he is running on a message of Hope and inspiration.

The path to the Whitehouse requires the support of Independents. Democrats CANNOT beat Trump without them.

As a lifelong Independent, I understand what appeals to Independents. Taking away private health insurance and repealing section 1325 will turn them off.

The only three I see capable of getting over 50% of Independents. are Beto, Biden and Klobuchar.

I don't think Klobuchar is charismatic enough to really energize voters like is needed. She had been someone I sort of had as a 2nd until she made a wisecrack that I found insulting towards Beto. I don't really like her anymore as a result.

I think Biden just has too much baggage and is too defensive to criticism and those qualities are easy prey for a narcissist. That would allow Trump to frame the entire race and that would hurt his chances. I don't dislike him. I just have too many years working with narcissists and seeing the devastation they leave in their wake and how they interact with different personality types. Both Biden and Harris would be unable to stay on message or gain the upper hand against Trump because they are too defensive in their reactions.

I have put A LOT of thought, consideration, balancing of personality traits/types and the best candidate to beat the living shit out of Trump is Beto.

Beto is battle tested and he has the perfect temperament for neutralizing narcissists. He WILL also deliver Texas and he can win everywhere because he has the same Hopeful kind of candidate that Obama was but he is more extroverted and better at retail politics than Obama was. He's also great at selling quite progressive policies to people who are not normally open to those ideas. He really has a gift for doing that.

As for the general, I'd vote for a steaming pile of dog crap over Trump.

[Skittles]

82. outstanding post

[SleeplessinSoCal]

84. I assume Independents don't have homophobic tendencies.

So Buttigieg has many appealing positions and is very effective in the public arena. Being from a red state has been his calling card.

Beto has gotten a veto from DU and the dems paying attention today. I hope he rebounds big time.

[Indygram]

88. I would imagine they have just as many as any other political party

I actually just earlier voiced my concern about how Buttigieg being gay and married would likely impact the election if he were the nominee. I honestly don't care about any of those kinds of things. During a normal election, IF he were the most qualified and best option (I don't think he is) then I would gladly support him. That's not what we are dealing with though. As I referred to Trump in that other post...he's the frickin' Pied Piper of Hate Mongers. The majority of religious zealots in this country don't vote. If Buttigieg is the nominee you can bet your ass they will in numbers unlike anything we have ever seen before. Trump is NOT a decent person. He would use hate and bigotry and stoke the f*ck right out of it. He would purposely rile religious zealots up into a frenzy and tell them if they don't vote for him that a same sex couple will move into the White House. Since Buttigieg is not the best candidate and does not have any national political experience and because of the risks I just mentioned I do not support his candidacy for THIS time around. I'm solidly behind the idea AFTER we get the oxidized asshole out of the oval office, though.

We NEED to win, and can't afford to take that kind of a risk because we may not have a country left.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

92. please look harder at other candidates.

Many are worthy of our support. Jay Inslee for one.

I honestly don't know which is the higher priority- climate change fixing health care or addressing college debt. All seem to be immediate concerns that Trump is making even worse.

[Indygram]

93. Why do you assume I hadn't done that before making my choice?

I am very methodical in how I decide who to vote for.

I vehemently oppose single payer, so anyone touting Medicare for All or anything that gets rid of employer based private insurance is automatically out for me.

Anyone who raised their hand to repeal section 1325 is also out. The majority of that section provides the ability to combat drug and human trafficking in areas between points of entry. I've lost loved ones from opiate addiction, so it's personal. Re-writing it or adding a provision that prevents it from being used in the way Trump is using it would suffice.

I support public charter schools since a public virtual charter school saved my own child's life. Anyone who blindly rails against public non-profit charter schools is automatically out.

There is only one position that Beto supports that I don't support, but it's not a deal breaker. I am fine with medical marijuana, highly regulated, but I don't support recreational use being legal. I know I'm in the minority on that position, so I'll live with not liking that one because I agree with him on everything else.

There is absolutely nothing anyone can do or say that will make me consider voting for anyone other than Beto O'Rourke for the primary.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

104. what if he drops out owing to expenses?

Is there a least favorite you'd like to share?

As you can see, I'm curious.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

105. his loss for words speaks to us all.

I like how he is responding. The "media asking questions they know the answers to" needed saying.

Props to Beto!

[Shrek]

21. Buttigieg or Gabbard n/t

[Amishman]

40. Yup, probably Mayor Pete or Gabbard.

As we go through the debates, I'm thinking Sanders and Warren are too high risk. Harris doesn't do too well in head to head polling vs Trump. Beto just hasn't appealed to me though I am hard pressed to say why.

[LexVegas]

22. Warren. nt

[SKKY]

23. Mayor Pete is my very close 2nd.

[wyldwolf]

25. Warren is a very unstable #2 for me.

Mayor Pete and Sen. Booker are close on her heels.

[highplainsdem]

27. I don't have a second choice at this time. IMO Biden is far ahead of all of the other candidates in

terms of resume/experiience, gravitas, support from US allies, likability, and electability. There are several other candidates that I like for various reasons, but each of them has some minus (for me) with lack of experience, or problems with their background, or policy positions that could prove too unpopular in the GE. So I can't consider any of them a second choice yet.

I will of course vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

[emmaverybo]

64. Hate to be a parrot, but you said it for me. NT

[Raven123]

28. Klobuchar

[onecaliberal]

29. ANY DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.

[emulatorloo]

31. Undecided yet, but 1st and 2nd will come from my top 4:

Warren Biden Harris Buttigieg (no particular order)

In the General I will vote and GOTV for the Democratic nominee, as I always do.

[crazytown]

32. Biden

Pete, if he could win it, but realistically, VP Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

[evertonfc]

33. Beto

I think Beto, Castro, Biden can win in Texas AND Florida. Any of our candidates will win the states Clinton won in 2016. What concerns me about Sanders and Warren and maybe Harris is they are not going to compete in Texas. Period and I just don't think they can win Florida. We have to expand the map not simply win more votes.

[Indygram]

41. Castro can't win Texas, he's not well liked there statewide

And he gets virtually no support from Independents, who are key to winning Texas. In all honestly, I don't even think Biden could pull out a win in Texas. Beto WILL win Texas if he is the nominee. The reason being...Independents like and trust him and they supported him in 2018. Trump is much less popular in Texas than Cruz is. In addition to that...there is a woman who used to be a Republican until Beto inspired her to switch. She canvasses EVERY week in red areas. Just this last week she canvassed over 4k voters. She does this consistently. Beto is winning not only with Democrats but overwhelmingly with Independents AND with moderate Republicans. Beto is BEATING Trump badly in red areas. Those voters who will end up deciding which way Texas goes are saying that for them it's either Beto or Trump. That means if the nominee is anyone other than Beto, many of those Independents and moderate Republicans who would choose Beto over Trump will not vote for another Democrat.

[mainstreetonce]

35. Reasons

One is Joe because I think he can attract the voters to take on Trump.
#2is Harris because if Joe messes up ,she is the one who can come in strong.
There are a few other good candidates,but we need a big show.Kamela can do that.

[pattyloutwo]

36. Klobuchar

[shraby]

37. The one who wins the primaries and goes on as candidate for president.

[lark]

38. Warren is #2 for me n/t

[justhanginon]

39. Senator Klobuchar. A good solid midwestern politician who

I think would be able to step right in and take over should the need arise. I also think she is a good fighter and would add greatly to the ticket. I also really think her likable but no nonsense personality would fit nicely with Biden's, at times, somewhat more casual demeanor.

[mtnsnake]

43. I was actually asking who is your 2nd choice to win the primary, not your choice of VP, but I agree

with you that Klobuchar would be an excellent VP choice for Biden, should he win the nomination. For that matter, I think Klobuchar would be a huge asset on anyone's ticket.

[justhanginon]

44. Whoops! I don't know whether to blame, age, eyes or brain.

Maybe all three.

[mtnsnake]

45. Haha, add me to the list as I might not have been as clear about that as I should have been

when I posted. Sorry for any confusion!

[Bettie]

42. Harris

I like Mayor Pete, but he's too conservative for my taste.

[The Mouth]

46. Warren, followed by Yang

[rusty fender]

47. Kamala Harris!

She is awesome, and if my first choice doesn’t get the nomination, I’m all in for her

[oasis]

48. Elizabeth Warren if she drops M4A and adopts the Biden plan. nt

[crazytown]

57. Elizabeth Warren wrote most of the Biden plan

Joe Biden picks up the ACA 2.0 bill Elizabeth Warren seems to have set aside & adds a Public Option to it
http://acasignups.net/19/07/19/joe-biden-picks-aca-20-bill-elizabeth-warren-seems-have-set-aside-adds-public-option-it

Consumer Health Insurance Protection Act, 2018
https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-03-21%20Consumer%20Health%20Insurance%20Protection%20Act%20bill%20text.pdf

[oasis]

59. Great. Let's get aboard with Biden/Warren and away we go!

[emmaverybo]

66. He needs to groom a younger VP and he also deserves someone who will truly SERVE him as

he did Obama. Warren is too attached to her bold, new ideas to be loyal and protective of a more
moderate administration.

[oasis]

68. Then let's have Stacey Abrams. nt

[emmaverybo]

100. She would be good. I don't honestly see any one who is also running in the primaries as being

a good pairing. I think a ticket that is racially and gender diverse would be good.

[Cousin Dupree]

49. Any thinking human being

[mac56]

50. Biden is a very close second choice.

[Garrett78]

74. The one furthest from your top choice ideologically is your 2nd choice?

[mac56]

91. Dude, I was just answering a question.

[Garrett78]

97. And I found your answer interesting.

[mac56]

98. Whatever did I do to merit your singular attention?

[Runningdawg]

51. Harris

[LincolnRossiter]

52. Keeping in mind that viability for the nomination and electability play roles in my choice...

(basically those polling at or above 5% right now)

1. Warren--strong viability in nom and general IMO. She's a strong second choice for me, though we have some significant policy differences. I think she's pretty badass and so sharp.
2. Castro--weak in nomination right now, could be strong in general
3. Buttigieg--strong viability for nom, but I'll state my simple perception that the country is not ready for an openly gay president. I could be (and hope to be) very wrong
4. Beto--I think he stands little chance of getting the nom, but would be strong in the general

[Mike 03]

53. Pete Buttigieg or Kamala Harris n/t

[democratisphere]

54. Joe Biden will be the Democratic candidate nominee.

Don't need a backup #2.

[LincolnRossiter]

58. Don't jinx it, brother!

But I think there's a pretty strong chance he's going to win in a walk (barring some shocking stumble or development). If he does respectably well in Iowa and NH (say top 2) and blows through SC, he'll be on easy street. The Dem nomination runs through the Southern primaries, and that's Joe country.

[Pisces]

55. Buttigieg

[charlyvi]

56. I can't decide on my second between Booker or Warren.

that sounds crazy, I know, but each of the two has their own qualities and ideas that I like.

[cynatnite]

61. I don't have a second favorite...

A lot of them irked me after the debate which put me firmly on Team Biden.

I would be happy with Kamala Harris as VP on the ticket, but that's as far as I'll go.

[katmondoo]

62. Biden

[DesertRat]

70. Elizabeth Warren

[FakeNoose]

71. Right now, I'm thinking Kamala or Liz Warren

... however I change my mind a couple times every week.
I really wish Joe would invite Liz to be his running mate, but I know that's never gonna happen.

Great question mtnsnake! Thanks

[aaaaaa5a]

72. #1. Biden and #2 Klobuchar

I am happy she has just made it onto the next debate.

[BootinUp]

73. Pete. Possibly the smartest one running, and

That’s just one of his many strengths. I think it’s possible he could upset Biden.

[gulliver]

75. Buttigieg

[at140]

76. Gabbard is acceptable

because I like her no regime change wars agenda.

[Bradshaw3]

77. Biden/Inslee

Are tied for second for me.

[BeyondGeography]

78. Buttigieg

Inslee is 2a.

[roody]

79. Warren or Gabbard

[Decoy of Fenris]

80. From Sanders to Biden or Warren. Either would be more than acceptable. n/t

[hurl]

83. Harris

She has the "it" factor when addressing an audience. Also love Buttigieg and Klobuchar.

If we absolutely can't win without Biden, then fine - he can be the VP again. We get the comfort of guidance and stability while simultaneously attracting those who would be energized by a bold new direction. I think that is the only combination with Biden that would put it out of stealing distance.

Preferences aside, I will happily vote for our nominee regardless.

[Skya Rhen]

85. I only have eyes for Joe...

[iwannaknow]

86. Warren or Sanders

[FoxNewsSucks]

87. Warren. And my 32 year dream would be

Sanders/Warren 2020
Warren/Buttigieg 2028
Buttigiege/AOC 2036
AOC/ ??? 2044

Also, I want them all to nominate Kamala Harris as AG. She'll need the entire 32 year period to put every republicon criminal scumbag behind bars.

[MicaelS]

89. Harris or Buttigieg. n/t

[Amimnoch]

90. Currently.. Biden.

270 map is my ONLY focus.

With MJ Hegar running, I think Beto gives us our best overall map advantage bring Texas into battleground territory, and if pulled off it would also give us a net +1 on the Senate with MJ Hegar’s bid in Texas as well.

So, sticking to my focus only on the map, and given how well Biden polled in both Texas in June and Ohio more recently, I’m going with Biden for 2nd. Really thinking about swapping that 1st/2nd spots as it is already.. Ohio is a VERY key indicator. No president has sat the office without Ohio since Kennedy in 1960.

[SurfinBetty]

94. Gabbard

If it is not Warrren, then Gabbard.

[TheFarseer]

95. First choice is Bernie

And second choice is Warren. In fact I’m not so sure it’s the other way around which is why I haven’t made a choice on DU

[sagesnow]

101. Sanders n/t

[bearsfootball516]

102. Elizabeth Warren, easily.

[womanofthehills]

103. Elizabeth Warren

I really like both Harris and Warren equally.

[Gothmog]

106. I have a number of candidates who I would love to support

I like Harris, Beto, Klobuchar and Castro after Joe. I think that Warren would lose on the banning of private health insurance issue but would be happy to support her.

[MustLoveBeagles]

107. Joe Biden

[obamanut2012]

108. Harris is my #2

[NNadir]

109. As I value high intelligence and a sense of humanity above all choices...

...my second choice would probably be Pete Buttigieg. He's a very, very, very impressive young man.

These are the reasons I chose Warren, her mind and her demonstrated history of changing her mind.

The last great President with such a mind is the guy who preceded this abominable cretin, President Obama, the greatest President of my lifetime, and I'm an old man. As an intellectual President, with a clear mind and human compassion and decency Obama demonstrated what an outstanding intellect could do in office.

He was far superior to the other Professor elected to office, Woodrow Wilson.

Buttigieg is a scholar, a clear thinker. I would love an unprecedented Warren-Buttigieg ticket.

I like Joe Biden - he served admirably with the great President as VP, and I like Kamala Harris from what I've seen of her. All this said, I would be happy with almost any of the top tier candidates except Sanders. Of course, in the unlikely case Sanders won the nomination I would vote for him, but regret that my country made me choose the "lesser of two evils," although in Sanders case, it's a far, far, far lesser evil.

Among the lower tier, I'm fond of Yang since he thinks outside the box and actually seems to know what's happening, and Inslee because, although he demonstrates very little practical sense, he at least has identified the major threat to humanity as a whole, and who knows? He just might grasp some practical sense if he were in office. Beto's fire in his grief, as I've noted in another thread, is very impressive, most impressive.

We have a fine pool of candidates. There are a few lower tier who I wish would just go away since they're just grandstanding distraction machines, but they will go away eventually.

[AnnieBW]

110. Harris or Booker

I like Mayor Pete, but I think that he needs a little more experience. I think that Kamala or Cory would be excellent, though.

[mtnsnake]

111. Results up until now:

As a 2nd choice if their 1st choice doesn't make it:

Biden was chosen for a total of 9 times as a 2nd choice by other candidate's followers. In 6 of those times he was chosen singularly as the 2nd choice, and 3 additional times he was chosen as an "either/or" with another candidate. For instance, a couple DU'ers said "Biden or Warren" would be their 2nd choice. There was also a "Biden or Inslee" as a 2nd choice by another DU'er.

Buttigieg was chosen 11 total times (6 times singularly as the 2nd choioce and 5 times as an either/or choice with another candidate).

Booker was chosen 2 times as an either/or choice with someone else such as "Booker or Warren" and "Harris or Booker." No one chose him as their only 2nd choice.

Gabbard was chosen 5 times (2 times singularly and 3 times as an either/or choice with another candidate).

Harris was chosen 15 times (11 times singularly and 4 times as an either/or choice with another candidate).

Inslee was chosen 1 time as an either/or with another candidate.

Klobuchar was chosen 4 times, all singularly.

Sanders was chosen 4 times (2 times singularly and 2 times as an either/or choice with another candidate).

Warren was chosen 24 times (15 times singulary and 9 times as an either/or choice with another candidate).

Summary of the choices:

Joe Biden's fans in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Buttigieg Or Warren, Harris, Buttigieg Or Warren, Warren, Buttigieg Or Gabbard, Warren, Harris, Warren, Klobuchar, Warren, Warren, Buttigieg, Harris Or Warren, Klobuchar, Buttigieg, Buttigieg, Warren

Pete Buttigieg's fans in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Warren, Warren, Biden Or Warren, Warren, Harris

Tulsi Gabbard's fan in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Sanders

Kamala Harris's fans in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Biden, Warren, Booker Or Warren, Warren, Warren Or Sanders, Warren

Seth Moulton's fan in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Buttigieg or Gabbard

Bernie Sanders fans in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Warren, Warren Or Gabbard, Biden Or Warren, Warren, Warren

Elizabeth Warren's fans in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Harris, Buttigieg, Harris, Harris, Harris, Klobuchar, Biden, Klobuchar, Harris, Harris, Biden, Buttigieg Or Harris, Biden, Gabbard, Biden Or Inslee, Buttigieg, Harris, Harris Or Buttigieg, Gabbard, Sanders, Harris, Buttigieg, Harris Or Booker

Andrew Yang's fan in this thread chose the following as their 2nd choice: Warren or Sanders

[IrishEyes]

112. It is hard to choose. Probably Warren.

I have 5 candidates that I really like and 4 candidates that I think are good as well. I love having such great options. Fortunately, I have many months to decide.

[kcr]

113. Harris is my second choice.

I like Inslee, too. I wish he were polling better.