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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:05 AM Aug 2019

***WOWZA*** BRAND SPANKING NEW A + RATED MONMOUTH IOWA POLL JB 28% EW 19% KH 11% BS 9%*





IOWA DEM CAUCUS POLL: Early #2020Dem preference:
28% @JoeBiden
19% @EWarren
11% @KamalaHarris
9% @SenSanders
8% @PeteButtigieg
3% @AmyKlobuchar
3% @TomSteyer
2% @SenGillibrand
2% @AndrewYang

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_ia_080819/




*Bernie got 49% last time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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***WOWZA*** BRAND SPANKING NEW A + RATED MONMOUTH IOWA POLL JB 28% EW 19% KH 11% BS 9%* (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2019 OP
Love your enthusiasm... lol Princetonian Aug 2019 #1
If Joe Biden continues like he did yesterday... FarPoint Aug 2019 #4
Joe will, he is PISSED at the LACK of moral leadership.... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2019 #6
I watched Joe's speech twice with my family and friends at a birthday dinner party. Princetonian Aug 2019 #10
I even added music. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2019 #12
Keeping your standards high, I see! lol Princetonian Aug 2019 #14
If Joe wins Iowa big then its over. honest.abe Aug 2019 #2
Pennsylvania Poll? Washington Poll? bluewater Aug 2019 #3
Two possible takeaways frazzled Aug 2019 #5
Alternatively, more than seven in ten Iowans appear to want something new BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #8
Well, this poll is not predictive of the caucus results in the first place, because frazzled Aug 2019 #17
Take away is: WARREN SURGES in IOWA!!!1!!1!! bluewater Aug 2019 #9
i dont think it is so much a return to normalcy as democracy. mopinko Aug 2019 #16
Nate Silver says Gillibrand may have a window into the September Debate. brooklynite Aug 2019 #7
BS in single digits Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #11
I like Joe, but, duforsure Aug 2019 #13
Nothing is written in stone as Barack showed us in 2008. Warren has a great organization in Iowa. Princetonian Aug 2019 #15
Great. Thinking 9% v 49% is apples to oranges for Sanders. Hortensis Aug 2019 #18
 

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
1. Love your enthusiasm... lol
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:08 AM
Aug 2019

Marianne and Joe would approve.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FarPoint

(12,368 posts)
4. If Joe Biden continues like he did yesterday...
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:20 AM
Aug 2019

He will be the next President...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
6. Joe will, he is PISSED at the LACK of moral leadership....
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:24 AM
Aug 2019

and he will tie every Republican to Trump.

As I suspect ALL of the Democratic Party candidates for POTUS and down ticket will. The heat needs to be applied heavily on Republican enablers of Trump's racism.

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
10. I watched Joe's speech twice with my family and friends at a birthday dinner party.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:32 AM
Aug 2019

No one complained about watching CSPAN - we liked it that much. Teenagers who will be voting next year for the first time and adults alike in the room were delighted.

That was our general consensus too.

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
14. Keeping your standards high, I see! lol
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:45 AM
Aug 2019

I love Motown but the entire 60's music era is so good. Oh and love the poll numbers, too!

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
2. If Joe wins Iowa big then its over.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:11 AM
Aug 2019

He will coast to the nomination... imho.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
3. Pennsylvania Poll? Washington Poll?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:11 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. Two possible takeaways
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:23 AM
Aug 2019

1. The larger part of the Democratic voting public (in Iowa at least, but these numbers seem to mirror national trends in this moment) is not looking for big change, but is rather seeking a return to normalcy and some kind of known stability after these tumultuous few years.

2. Bernie Sanders is pretty much toast. (Though he has enough money to continue to the bitter end, and probably will.)

People in Iowa are paying attention already, so this poll is to be taken more seriously than most.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
8. Alternatively, more than seven in ten Iowans appear to want something new
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:28 AM
Aug 2019

Unless there's another "return to normalcy" candidate out there besides Biden.

Anyway, I share your respect for Iowans but a review of polls this far out will show the end result rarely looks anything like what you see six months before the caucus. Apart from the Sanders number no candidates should be too alarmed or reassured by these numbers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
17. Well, this poll is not predictive of the caucus results in the first place, because
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:28 PM
Aug 2019

it polls all the voters, and we all know that actual caucus voters are massively fewer in number, and are generally more in the activist camps for their candidates. So caucuses, in general, are not reflective of a state's voting predilections. That is why so many states have abandoned the caucus system: it's not very democratic.

Whoever wins Iowa will be the candidate who gets the largest portion of their supporters to turn out, who employ the tactics that make caucus attendees fall into line. (I've lived in a caucus state previously, plus one more with caucuses on the local and state level, so I know how they work. Loudest and boldest prevails, and they're often not pretty affairs.)

I was not talking about who will win Iowa. I was addressing the general trend I've noted among respondents in all the polls, state and national, at least at this point in time. Joe Biden has not been among my top picks for this nomination (about which I remain steadfastly uncommitted), but I am sensing the temperature of the populace, and what I (personally) read into it is that a plurality are still just looking for "the devil they know." (Please note: I am not in any way suggesting devilishness on the part of Joe Biden; it's just an expression for seeking the status quo.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
9. Take away is: WARREN SURGES in IOWA!!!1!!1!!
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:29 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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mopinko

(70,103 posts)
16. i dont think it is so much a return to normalcy as democracy.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:24 PM
Aug 2019

as bad as cheato it, he is a symptom, and i think most people know that.
he is the poster child for the decline of american democracy, and for the consequences of corruption.

ew is showing us what we are capable of if we ever return the power to the people.
she is connecting dots all over the map, and the picture aint pretty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
7. Nate Silver says Gillibrand may have a window into the September Debate.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:25 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
13. I like Joe, but,
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:38 AM
Aug 2019

He's in the past on several issues, and not as progressive , and smart as she is. She has proposals ready to go , and he's lagging behind, and he's often making mistakes . Many in DC fear her because of her intellect, and they can BS her on anything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
15. Nothing is written in stone as Barack showed us in 2008. Warren has a great organization in Iowa.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:47 AM
Aug 2019

I would not be surprised to see a joint ticket if they are a good fit interpersonally.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Great. Thinking 9% v 49% is apples to oranges for Sanders.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 04:53 PM
Aug 2019

Only Democrats were polled for this. In contrast, in 2016 Iowa had an open primary that anyone who wanted to try to sabotage the election could vote in. That would only be one of the reasons for the enormous difference, of course, but significant. We now know conservatives took advantage of open primaries in especially large numbers to engage in malicious crossover voting.

Good news is that IA has instituted many changes to its caucus since 2016. Including making it far more accessible by adding a "virtual caucus" open to voting for 6 days, not just the one in-person caucus, making it far less likely that supporters of one candidate can flood a very under-attended local event and take it over. And only supporters of a candidate who does not receive the minimum, 15%?, will be allowed to realign with another, not everyone.

Bad news is it's still technically open, and if Trump is still a candidate at that time malicious crossover to try to throw the state's delegates to a weak Democrat could be worse than ever.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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