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Grendam

(38 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:30 PM Aug 2019

Another Biden Gaffe... This time with Parkland

Someone is going to eventually post this, so I figured it's best to do it sooner rather than later. All the usual suspects online are already pouncing, and I'm sure it will be the same for the folks on here.

I like Biden, but all these mishaps are really concerning. Even if he's fine cognitively, his opponents are not going to lack for the (many) instances that call that into question. I don't think he can really sustain making multiple gaffes almost daily and have enough people believe he still possesses the necessary mental acuity.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Another Biden Gaffe... This time with Parkland (Original Post) Grendam Aug 2019 OP
Someone, somewhere is keeping a tally left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #1
And they will look DownriverDem Aug 2019 #27
I'm not concerned about the Dems that are keeping track Lordquinton Aug 2019 #117
Yes. Someone HERE is keeping a tally and using them. Disappointing if you ask me. George II Aug 2019 #133
This is a simple error. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #2
It's a pattern rusty fender Aug 2019 #36
Yes, but it's baked into the cake. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #53
It has probably gotten worse rusty fender Aug 2019 #115
Awfully low bar Trump has set though. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #125
Ho hum onetexan Aug 2019 #126
Welcome to DU R B Garr Aug 2019 #3
ROFL IronLionZion Aug 2019 #12
On another topic, I made tonkatsu, ebi sunomono, age dofu and zucchini tempura for dinner.. pangaia Aug 2019 #4
Damn. I would like the recipe. Lochloosa Aug 2019 #13
I've been making( ton)katsu for 40 some years.. pangaia Aug 2019 #34
Looks like dinner tomorrow night. Lochloosa Aug 2019 #63
Great ! Let me know how it turns out... pangaia Aug 2019 #64
I forgot the age dofu recipe.. LOL pangaia Aug 2019 #102
ebi sunomono sounds really refreshing. Lochloosa Aug 2019 #18
it is !! :))))) pangaia Aug 2019 #24
All things with "u" in the names customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #81
Humm.........As George Crumb once famously said when asked pangaia Aug 2019 #90
Yum. I may drop by with seaweed salad. Hekate Aug 2019 #93
absolutely..for sure.... pangaia Aug 2019 #96
You are making me so hungry. Hekate Aug 2019 #101
Well, both those names also have I's and O's in them.... :)))))) pangaia Aug 2019 #109
Biden spoke to so many victims of mass shootings, confusing this one that occurred 2 years after hlthe2b Aug 2019 #5
He did speak to Parkland youth in 2018. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #87
Thank you for your concern. Have a candidate you like yet? Are they perfect in every way? Princetonian Aug 2019 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #7
Welcome to DU R B Garr Aug 2019 #8
Hope he didn't buy a star. George II Aug 2019 #25
You're referring to trump, of course. elleng Aug 2019 #9
And so it begins...... jaysunb Aug 2019 #10
just so everyone knows, that one was spreading Putin attacks against Biden and Harris JI7 Aug 2019 #15
I read his stuff prior to his dismissal and he did no such thing. Princetonian Aug 2019 #37
yes he did JI7 Aug 2019 #42
We'll have to agree to disagree. Princetonian Aug 2019 #48
The Parkland victims came up to meet Biden in Washington, in 2018. Biden is correct. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #11
So there you go! Thanks for posting. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #14
im sure many victims of shootings have come up, it says more about our JI7 Aug 2019 #17
So the only 'gaffe' was that he was no longer VP when they met. Chemisse Aug 2019 #19
A Biden official said just that however BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #21
Except... Grendam Aug 2019 #20
Nice bunch of people you've chosen to quote Hekate Aug 2019 #95
HA HA HA great post... pangaia Aug 2019 #35
You are the best!! Thanks. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #46
Good to know! Will there be an apology from the OP? Hekate Aug 2019 #94
Thank you!!!! sheshe2 Aug 2019 #118
John Dean says "pundits bashing Biden for gaffes are nuts." Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #16
Here's a look at all the fucks I have to give. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #22
this is getting pretty interesting wyldwolf Aug 2019 #23
"really concerning" crazytown Aug 2019 #26
To me it just shows that there have been so many mass shootings, including in schools, that tblue37 Aug 2019 #28
That's what I thought as well. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #47
I make mistakes like this all the time... dawg day Aug 2019 #29
I agree 100% But, maybe we should not compare our guys and gals to trump... pangaia Aug 2019 #39
So what candidate are you leaning towards? LuvLoogie Aug 2019 #30
Your concern is noted. cwydro Aug 2019 #31
perhaps someone without an opponent? bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #32
I remember the phrase whathehell Aug 2019 #40
Oh yeah, it's an oldie Goldie, but still used quite often. cwydro Aug 2019 #41
Yes, it was a rather droll way of addressing 'concern trolls'. whathehell Aug 2019 #134
Concern noted peggysue2 Aug 2019 #33
He sneezed?! MustLoveBeagles Aug 2019 #38
"REALLY concerned" crazytown Aug 2019 #45
Sneezed in public? What will we tell the children? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #123
Oh no! Now I can't vote for Biden! Joe941 Aug 2019 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author zackymilly Aug 2019 #44
I'm voting for the shining gaffe on the hill. Deb Aug 2019 #49
Not good melman Aug 2019 #50
What's "not good" about it? George II Aug 2019 #54
What's not not good about it? melman Aug 2019 #57
I asked you first..... George II Aug 2019 #58
I don't care melman Aug 2019 #59
Do U? As for the rest, no it isn't, no it isn't, and finally no it isn't. George II Aug 2019 #60
So you can't melman Aug 2019 #65
Can't what? George II Aug 2019 #70
How come you're back? melman Aug 2019 #71
Um..... George II Aug 2019 #73
Not a fan melman Aug 2019 #78
I thought you were: George II Aug 2019 #82
Right melman Aug 2019 #85
Not in that context. George II Aug 2019 #110
Not in what context? melman Aug 2019 #111
That context, where.... George II Aug 2019 #112
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense melman Aug 2019 #114
I can! sheshe2 Aug 2019 #119
Apparently you can't melman Aug 2019 #122
Obama said he visited 57 states. It happens. Do you have a problem with Obama? George II Aug 2019 #128
What happens? melman Aug 2019 #132
Won't make a difference Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #51
Sigh. nt DesertRat Aug 2019 #52
No big deal. George II Aug 2019 #55
I reluctantly agree, even though I really really like Joe and would love to see him as SoS renate Aug 2019 #56
Joe is not running for Secretary of State - he is running for President and will be President. He Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #61
You made the mistake...Biden did meet with the survivors and family in 18 and a VP is always a VP. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #62
That's a very Trumpian response... Grendam Aug 2019 #83
Wow, Grendam. Are you sure you're in the right place? You keep digging deeper and deeper Hekate Aug 2019 #97
The official obviously didn't know Biden meant with the parkland victims in 18 in Washington... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #130
Here are the links...got them from another post. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #66
All these "mishaps" after wide-spread praise for his most notable speech, one that showed his emmaverybo Aug 2019 #67
There is no mishap...this is bullshit. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #75
I have and I been calling attention to them. Faux "mishaps." Thank you for verifying the facts emmaverybo Aug 2019 #86
The thing is I pretty much don't believe anything anymore...Epstein and her sidekick kittery Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #129
Not sure if anyone cares... Grendam Aug 2019 #68
Here's a WaPo article that echoes a lot of what you're saying BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #79
I'm trying the keto diet. Has anyone else done it? Dream Girl Aug 2019 #69
I have...It is very similar to Atkins...I lost quite a bit of weight but put it back on sadly...now Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #72
It works...when I did it I didn't know I was a celiac so I felt great on it ...no wheat. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #74
I've been considering Atkins but I don't have the willpower to cut out my bad eating habits. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #76
That is why I like weight watchers...you can eat the food you like even if it is not the best for Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #77
I think that might be the best option for me - will definitely seriously consider this... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #84
I've really been helped with Keto products, condiments, brownie mixes, even the bread(mine emmaverybo Aug 2019 #103
Doing it now. We can follow up on the topic If you'd like to start it on "health" forum. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #89
PS Keto-ers at health forum, weight maintenance and loss sub-category, nt emmaverybo Aug 2019 #98
Wow snowybirdie Aug 2019 #80
Nitpickers are at it again. democratisphere Aug 2019 #88
Face it. Joe Biden is too old. El Supremo Aug 2019 #91
Good. That's what you would like. Other than Biden being "too old," you offer no facts to support emmaverybo Aug 2019 #113
Joe has been gaffing for many years Green Line Aug 2019 #120
The horror, the horror. Meanwhile, over at the WH, we have a potus who is deep into dementia.... Hekate Aug 2019 #92
He's made many gaffes but I'd let this slide. xmas74 Aug 2019 #99
He just needs to get these things out of his system before the general starts. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #100
Fuck it. Turbineguy Aug 2019 #104
Hell. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #108
Looks like the gaffe sniffer-outers are gaffe prone. ucrdem Aug 2019 #105
Unless he does much worse in next months, don't think that would bother me. Hoyt Aug 2019 #106
He's comforted so many shooting victims he mixed things up - perhaps? nini Aug 2019 #107
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #116
Joe Biden has been addressed as 'Mr. Vice President' Eric J in MN Aug 2019 #121
This is like Obama saying there were 57 states. Big deal? No. Beartracks Aug 2019 #124
In view of a post on a new thread showing Biden talking about his visit with Parkland students emmaverybo Aug 2019 #127
Ah someone posted the truth...thought it might interest you...do have a nice day. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #131
Symone Sanders-"I want to be very clear: this is a press narrative, not a voter narrative." Gothmog Aug 2019 #135
Opinion: There are more important things to worry about than Biden's gaffes Gothmog Aug 2019 #136
"I like Biden, but all these mishaps are really concerning" LanternWaste Aug 2019 #137
"All the usual suspects" SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #138
What about trump's gaffes? Gothmog Aug 2019 #139
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. Someone, somewhere is keeping a tally
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:32 PM
Aug 2019

And will use them in the next debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
27. And they will look
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:21 PM
Aug 2019

very bad. Keep it up and a lot of folks will be turned off.

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Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
117. I'm not concerned about the Dems that are keeping track
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:20 AM
Aug 2019

the repubs have already started on this attack vector and he's just feeding them ammo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
133. Yes. Someone HERE is keeping a tally and using them. Disappointing if you ask me.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:54 PM
Aug 2019
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. This is a simple error.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:34 PM
Aug 2019

And considering how powerful his last speech was, it is meaningless.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
53. Yes, but it's baked into the cake.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:57 PM
Aug 2019

He was considered a gaffe machine long ago.
That certainly hasn’t changed at age76.

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rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
115. It has probably gotten worse
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:03 AM
Aug 2019

I think his mind isn’t up to the task of being president

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Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
125. Awfully low bar Trump has set though.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 06:17 AM
Aug 2019
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. On another topic, I made tonkatsu, ebi sunomono, age dofu and zucchini tempura for dinner..
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:36 PM
Aug 2019


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Undecided
 

Lochloosa

(16,064 posts)
13. Damn. I would like the recipe.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:49 PM
Aug 2019
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
34. I've been making( ton)katsu for 40 some years..
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:56 PM
Aug 2019

I learned from Japanese friends in US and Kyoto.

TONKATSU-
-katsu is short for katsuretsu - means the sauce.. 'ton' is pork..
zucchini in Japanese is ズッキーニ zukkini :&gt )
( I should have called it zukkini tempura...)

um--- ok the sauce-- I vary it each time.. but can include these---
- ketchup
- soy sauce
- worchestershire sauce
- grated ginger juice
- mirin
-rice vinegar
-I think that's about it..

--boneless, pounded center cut pork chop or fish are deep fried in one piece-- takes maybe 4 minutes or less? depends on thickness.
-for deep frying any katsu-- pork, fish, first---dip in potato(corn) starch, egg and bread crumbs..


-I deep fry in about and 8? quart sauce pan-- with several inches of peanut oil at-- oh maybe 375? I just know when it is the temp is right... if it too hot the food scorches, if too cool it gets soggy...
-take our pork and rest on drying grate or paper towels.
- then slice the pork in about 5/8" wide slices and serve on a bed of shredded cabbage. Sauce on the side...

SUNOMONO-
- sauce. basically rice vinegar and sugar. or mirin. maybe a couple drops of soy sauce
Too lazy to type out SUNOMONO- :&gt )
This one is not bad--https://www.justonecookbook.com/sunomono-with-cucumber-and-wakame/


TEMPURA- THIS is very difficult to make well... I won't pretend to tell somebody... I'm getting better, little by little...


If you are ever in Kyoto and want tempura. THESE are my favorite places..
-Shunsai Tempura Arima - near Shijo-Karasuma intersection
-Tempura Yoshioka- very small--one block north and about 4 blocks east.. on the corner.
You should have a reservation-- different styles but master tempura makers.. the owner at Tempura Yoshioka has been making tempura in the same place for some 30 years and his father before him.

OH, and if you want a dynamite sushi bar( my #2 in Kyoto) Senta Sushi- about 1/2 block west of Tempura Arima.
Oh , and as long as you are there, walk another block west and you will come across Sukemasa- dynamite gyoza joint...

OK, while I'm on it.. You want the BESTEST Kyosaba in Kyoto ? -the famous Kyoto style saba (mackerel) ?-- you're in luck, I know where it is -walk about 6 blocks north from Tempura Yoshioka (a bit north of Shijo-dori,and on the left, 10 feet before the the entrance to the Nishiki Market on the right is Sakai. It is a tiny hole in the wall 6 seat place... they open at noon. get there early... !!!

HA, and just past the Nishiki Market entrance on the right is the Matsukawa Liquor Store. You MUST go here.. any time after 7 pm. Trust me.... it's the funkiest of the old style stand-up 'bars' in the city. I know the owner...

NONE of these places has the name in English.. just google them..

Have fun..




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Lochloosa

(16,064 posts)
63. Looks like dinner tomorrow night.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:15 PM
Aug 2019
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
64. Great ! Let me know how it turns out...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:25 PM
Aug 2019


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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
102. I forgot the age dofu recipe.. LOL
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:48 PM
Aug 2019

About 1 1/4" - 1/1'2" squares of somewhat firm dofu.. best is 'firm silken dofu' but many of that type are too soft.. it should be soft but firm and easily stay in the cubes.

Heat peanut oil for deep frying to about 350.. not TOO hot..
Deep fry the cubes for maybe 60 seconds or less- just until the surface is a very light brown..
Drain on draining grill or paper towels

Sauce---dashi making (your own is MUCH, MUCH better than bought in the store)..,with some soy sauce and mirin (sake, optional)
Put 3-4 cubes in small bowls.
Pour a little sauce over.. not a lot.
On top of the dofu put a little grated daikon, grated ginger , sliced scallions and bonito flakes- katsuobushi -or can omit ginger... depends...

Serve immediately while hot and fresh..!!


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Lochloosa

(16,064 posts)
18. ebi sunomono sounds really refreshing.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:52 PM
Aug 2019
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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
81. All things with "u" in the names
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:50 PM
Aug 2019

Why is it all about u?

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
90. Humm.........As George Crumb once famously said when asked
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

at a composers' workshop a very long question about the style, structure and organization, colors, etc of his compositions, "Well, I never thought about that before."

But that is a good question....
Of course there really are no "U's" in Japanese..


実を言うと, 偶然だと思う.


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Hekate

(90,683 posts)
93. Yum. I may drop by with seaweed salad.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:24 PM
Aug 2019
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
96. absolutely..for sure....
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:35 PM
Aug 2019

in fact wakame on sunomono is common as well..

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Hekate

(90,683 posts)
101. You are making me so hungry.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:48 PM
Aug 2019

What happened to the lacking "U" in Japanese that you mentioned? A dentist in my childhood town was named Ouchi. My US Senator was Inouye. Was this just a case of century-old mis-transliteration at the port of entry?

I thought there was an elided o-u in Japanese, but since I was a failure at learning it I would not swear to that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
109. Well, both those names also have I's and O's in them.... :))))))
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:12 PM
Aug 2019

Ouchi is probably changed from what may have been written in Romaji( roman letters) as Ōchi - showing to lengthen the O sound..

I have a friend whose name is Ōmori. with a longer O sound.. But Americans can;t understand how to say that so she uses Omori.

Onaka ga ippai desu means I am full---- the 2 pps means-- hold your lips together a shade longer...



This just popped into my head....

'That wasn't very expensive, was it'
あんまりたかく ありません でした ね。Anmaritakaku arimasen deshita ne. 1-U.

This just HAPPENS to be the first long phrase I learned when I first studied Japanese in the 1980s. I always remember it-- although I don;t think I have ever used it...


OR
それはそれほど高価ではありませんでした。 Sore wa sore hodo kōkade wa arimasen deshita.
That wasn't very expensive, was it. NO U's


So about the U's-- I don't have a good answer cause I 'never thought about that before,


--------------
As for food...........
I'm not a very good Japanese cooker.. I do much better with Sichuan..





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hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
5. Biden spoke to so many victims of mass shootings, confusing this one that occurred 2 years after
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:37 PM
Aug 2019

he left office is hardly surprising to me.

Sure, keep track and the candidate that presses it in the next debate will come off petty and desperate. The backlash will be swift.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
87. He did speak to Parkland youth in 2018.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:06 PM
Aug 2019
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
6. Thank you for your concern. Have a candidate you like yet? Are they perfect in every way?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:37 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Grendam (Original post)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Hope he didn't buy a star.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:20 PM
Aug 2019
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elleng

(130,905 posts)
9. You're referring to trump, of course.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:41 PM
Aug 2019
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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
10. And so it begins......
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:45 PM
Aug 2019

and, a large portion of DU will bite on this tripe.

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JI7

(89,249 posts)
15. just so everyone knows, that one was spreading Putin attacks against Biden and Harris
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
37. I read his stuff prior to his dismissal and he did no such thing.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:57 PM
Aug 2019
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
48. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:37 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
11. The Parkland victims came up to meet Biden in Washington, in 2018. Biden is correct.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:45 PM
Aug 2019

Snip...

A day ahead of March for Our Lives, the South Florida school shooting survivors leading the gun control demonstration made their presence felt Friday in Washington, pressing lawmakers for their cause and asking why more restrictions hadn’t already been passed.

Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, where a shooter claimed 17 lives February 14 in Parkland, met face-to-face with legislators as part of a full day of pre-march events in the nation’s capital.


Snip...

Survivors of the Parkland shooting quickly became the faces of a national conversation on gun control, and are lobbying lawmakers for more restrictive gun laws — including a ban on assault-style rifles and higher-capacity magazines.
Small groups of students met Friday morning with members of Congress while other students visited the Newseum to discuss their experiences in the mass shooting.

Former Vice President Joe Biden also met privately with some Stoneman Douglas students and their parents in the Dirksen Senate Office Building.

https://wtvr.com/2018/03/24/parkland-students-press-washington-for-gun-control-march-for-our-lives/





If I were to vote in a presidential
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hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
14. So there you go! Thanks for posting.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:49 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(89,249 posts)
17. im sure many victims of shootings have come up, it says more about our
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:51 PM
Aug 2019

country that there are do many of these.


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Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
19. So the only 'gaffe' was that he was no longer VP when they met.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:56 PM
Aug 2019

That is a fairly minor detail, not nearly as bad as confusing Parkland and Newtown.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
21. A Biden official said just that however
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:00 PM
Aug 2019
An official with the Biden campaign said the former vice president was thinking of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, when he misspoke.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-08-10/biden-says-he-was-vice-president-during-the-parkland-shooting
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Grendam

(38 posts)
20. Except...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:00 PM
Aug 2019

in the Bloomberg article:

"An official with the Biden campaign said the former vice president was thinking of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, when he misspoke. That attack, in which 20 children between six and seven years old were killed along with six staff members, was in December 2012."

And as if almost on cue:




I'm seeing increasingly more dialogue like this:





I consider myself a moderate, so I have a natural inclination towards Biden, but my biggest concern, no matter the candidate, is to win.
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Hekate

(90,683 posts)
95. Nice bunch of people you've chosen to quote
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:33 PM
Aug 2019

Let me welcome you to DU. Enjoy your stay, Grendam.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
35. HA HA HA great post...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:57 PM
Aug 2019


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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
46. You are the best!! Thanks.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:35 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hekate

(90,683 posts)
94. Good to know! Will there be an apology from the OP?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:30 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
16. John Dean says "pundits bashing Biden for gaffes are nuts."
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 06:50 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
22. Here's a look at all the fucks I have to give.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:03 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
23. this is getting pretty interesting
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:14 PM
Aug 2019

Your post, then defense of the post, not the Biden gaffe.

In primary seasons past on DU, before we could 'pick' our candidates, people would often pretend to not be for anyone in particular ( ("undecided" ) to provide themselves cover for such things. Never really fooled anyone then, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tblue37

(65,352 posts)
28. To me it just shows that there have been so many mass shootings, including in schools, that
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:25 PM
Aug 2019

he finds it hard to keep them straight.

Frankly, so do I sometimes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
47. That's what I thought as well.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:37 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
29. I make mistakes like this all the time...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:26 PM
Aug 2019

Of course, I'm not running for president. But considering Trump lying everytime he opens his mouth, Biden (or anyone else) making an honest mistake, I can't get too upset. It's just that no matter what, this becomes a big thing, and actually because it's not that serious, it gets inflated.
Trump does 15 horrible things every day, so somehow he gets complete impunity.
Not fair. I know... so what.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
39. I agree 100% But, maybe we should not compare our guys and gals to trump...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:59 PM
Aug 2019

at the WORST compare them to--- um.... Eisenhower!


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
30. So what candidate are you leaning towards?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:29 PM
Aug 2019

I'm a Biden/Harris Harris/Klobuchar guy. How 'bout you?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. Your concern is noted.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:34 PM
Aug 2019

Who is your current favorite?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
32. perhaps someone without an opponent?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:47 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
40. I remember the phrase
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:03 PM
Aug 2019

from snarky old DU Days as "Your concern is duly noted" .It was always one of my faves..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
41. Oh yeah, it's an oldie Goldie, but still used quite often.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

Not one of my more used phrases, but it seemed appropriate here lol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
134. Yes, it was a rather droll way of addressing 'concern trolls'.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:13 PM
Aug 2019

Indirect, but effective.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
33. Concern noted
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:49 PM
Aug 2019

Did you catch the one with Biden SNEEZING IN PUBLIC!!!!

What was the man thinking??? I may have to switch my choices here.



Try harder.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MustLoveBeagles

(11,609 posts)
38. He sneezed?!
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 07:58 PM
Aug 2019

In PUBLIC?!! Oh the humanity! This is disqualifying. Now where did I leave my fainting couch?


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
45. "REALLY concerned"
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:31 PM
Aug 2019
Really, Really, Concerned
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
123. Sneezed in public? What will we tell the children?
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 02:45 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
43. Oh no! Now I can't vote for Biden!
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:28 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Grendam (Original post)

 

Deb

(3,742 posts)
49. I'm voting for the shining gaffe on the hill.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:40 PM
Aug 2019

Go Joe!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
54. What's "not good" about it?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:57 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
57. What's not not good about it?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:00 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
58. I asked you first.....
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:02 PM
Aug 2019
?itemid=8152604
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
59. I don't care
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:04 PM
Aug 2019

Anyone can see that it is bad. It's self evident that it is.. So the burden is on you to explain why it's not bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
60. Do U? As for the rest, no it isn't, no it isn't, and finally no it isn't.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:08 PM
Aug 2019

Even though straws these days are out of favor, even more out of favor is drawing the short one.

Have a great evening.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
65. So you can't
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:28 PM
Aug 2019

Not surprised.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
71. How come you're back?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:32 PM
Aug 2019

You said bye.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
78. Not a fan
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:45 PM
Aug 2019

But whatever you're into I guess. Different strokes and all...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
85. Right
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:58 PM
Aug 2019

because those words had never been used before that jacket.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
110. Not in that context.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:39 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
111. Not in what context?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:44 PM
Aug 2019

The context of saying you don't care about something?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
112. That context, where....
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:50 PM
Aug 2019

....YOU said you don't care about something.

Lol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
114. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:54 PM
Aug 2019

But enough about all that. What's this about straws being out of favor? Where does that even come from?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,759 posts)
119. I can!
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:04 AM
Aug 2019

Guess you missed this.

Skya Rhen (1,124 posts)
11. The Parkland victims came up to meet Biden in Washington, in 2018. Biden is correct.

Snip...

A day ahead of March for Our Lives, the South Florida school shooting survivors leading the gun control demonstration made their presence felt Friday in Washington, pressing lawmakers for their cause and asking why more restrictions hadn’t already been passed.

Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, where a shooter claimed 17 lives February 14 in Parkland, met face-to-face with legislators as part of a full day of pre-march events in the nation’s capital.


Snip...

Survivors of the Parkland shooting quickly became the faces of a national conversation on gun control, and are lobbying lawmakers for more restrictive gun laws — including a ban on assault-style rifles and higher-capacity magazines.
Small groups of students met Friday morning with members of Congress while other students visited the Newseum to discuss their experiences in the mass shooting.

Former Vice President Joe Biden also met privately with some Stoneman Douglas students and their parents in the Dirksen Senate Office Building.

https://wtvr.com/2018/03/24/parkland-students-press-washington-for-gun-control-march-for-our-lives/



https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287234749#post11

Thanks to Skya Rhen

You are so very welcome, melman.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
122. Apparently you can't
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:46 AM
Aug 2019

And that's not relevant. Because the point is he said it happened while he was VP. And it did not.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
128. Obama said he visited 57 states. It happens. Do you have a problem with Obama?
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 09:49 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
132. What happens?
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 12:03 PM
Aug 2019

An occasional slip up? Yes. That happens.

But Biden has, in the last few days alone..

- confused Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher. Again

- said "poor kids are just as bright as white kids"

- declared "we choose truth over facts"

- referred to the shootings in El Paso and Dayton as having happened in "Houston" and "Michigan."

- said he was VP when Parkland happened.


No. That doesn't just happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
51. Won't make a difference
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:53 PM
Aug 2019

Biden is becoming the Teflon candidate. Good.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

renate

(13,776 posts)
56. I reluctantly agree, even though I really really like Joe and would love to see him as SoS
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:59 PM
Aug 2019

He would be a phenomenal Secretary of State. Foreign leaders (the good ones) would remember him and respect him, plus he would just be damn good at the job.

But one forgetful-seeming gaffe after another--and gaffes and Joe Biden are not a new combination, so it's not a question of his needing more rest right now or something--is something we just can't afford to risk when the fate of the United States is on the line.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
61. Joe is not running for Secretary of State - he is running for President and will be President. He
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:08 PM
Aug 2019

will name his SOS...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
62. You made the mistake...Biden did meet with the survivors and family in 18 and a VP is always a VP.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:13 PM
Aug 2019

I would consider deleting....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Grendam

(38 posts)
83. That's a very Trumpian response...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:55 PM
Aug 2019

I expect better than a response of, "I'm not wrong, you're wrong!" Might as well scream, "FAKE NEWS!"

It's very bad look. I'll quote again from the article:

"An official with the Biden campaign said the former vice president was thinking of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, when he misspoke. That attack, in which 20 children between six and seven years old were killed along with six staff members, was in December 2012."

Campaign aide tells press, Biden misspoke, and you attack me for expressing concern about it in light of a series of other gaffes in a very short time period? Very, very bad look.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
97. Wow, Grendam. Are you sure you're in the right place? You keep digging deeper and deeper
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:39 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
130. The official obviously didn't know Biden meant with the parkland victims in 18 in Washington...
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:08 AM
Aug 2019

but now you do...this sort of thing won't help anyone. And honestly, this should not have been posted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
66. Here are the links...got them from another post.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:28 PM
Aug 2019
https://wtvr.com/2018/03/24/parkland-students-press-washington-for-gun-control-march-for-our-lives/

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=234770


The thread I got them from is now LOCKED...but here is the address.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12369075 Consider deleting or editing...but since the entire thing is false...not sure an edit will work...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
67. All these "mishaps" after wide-spread praise for his most notable speech, one that showed his
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:29 PM
Aug 2019

depth of character, his ability to take on Trump, and his gift to comfort and inspire the nation.

Funny thing is that one critic while getting worked up about the serious implications of Biden’s
So-called gaffes was off by five years discussing the “2015 primaries.”

Biden met with the Parkland youth. He was still a VP when he met with them and he always will be.

“Mishaps” is a misnomer in any case.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
75. There is no mishap...this is bullshit.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:39 PM
Aug 2019

See my posts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
86. I have and I been calling attention to them. Faux "mishaps." Thank you for verifying the facts
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:06 PM
Aug 2019

were as Biden said.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
129. The thing is I pretty much don't believe anything anymore...Epstein and her sidekick kittery
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:04 AM
Aug 2019

I think that her name work for Bloomberg and have ragged on Biden non-stop...shills for somebody...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Grendam

(38 posts)
68. Not sure if anyone cares...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:30 PM
Aug 2019

but I'm disappointed in many of the responses directed to me. I joined in April and mostly lurk. If anyone doubts my sincerity, which it appears many do, feel free to look at my post history (there are only 27 — now 28).

Here are some to make it easy for many of you:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128768022#post15
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/128778096#post20
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128786093#post15
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287103305#post6
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287116698#post10
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287127495#post31
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287169181#post19
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287187243#post6

I've largely been supportive of Biden. I've only really criticized Tulsi and progressives. Like I said earlier, I posted this because I knew someone would soon anyway, and I wanted to voice my concerns and see what people had to say. I did that here as well:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287134184#post20

As this is a discussion board, I didn't think that was too out of line. I guess I wasn't expecting so much the equivalent of a Bernie Bro response of, "SCREW YOU, HATER!" Many of you find this hard to believe, but I consider myself undecided because I'm UNDECIDED. Not everything is a cynical ploy to smear another candidate.

Biden will be 78 by the time he takes office. I don't know about many of you, but I'm old enough to remember
Reagan and all the rumors about him towards the end of his second term. Many of us also have parents or other relatives that have had dementia and remember how those 'senior moments' became more and more frequent.

Yes, I'm concerned when I notice in my social media circles (I don't just mean blue check marks), that people, generally supportive of Biden, expressing doubts (and have been) about where Biden's head is. Since Thursday, he has made... four gaffes, I think? When I see people start discussing the onset of their mother's or father's dementia in a serious manner, that's not the conversation any of us want to be having around Biden. If he looks increasingly disengaged or not with it, that'll be the one we have more often than not. Not a good thing. It's not something that can be just waved away or silenced by shouting, "BUT TRUMP!" Many people (not just progressives/right-wingers) already think the campaign is trying to shield him for reasons more serious than he hasn't historically been a great campaigner. If they continue to do that or expose him to more scrutiny that results in a cavalcade or blunders, it could be very problematic defeating Trump, which is very much what I care most about.

I'm not trying to convince anyone NOT to support Biden. I'm looking for reasons why "I" should support Biden. When I encounter people in real life, that are already skeptical of Biden, and to whom I've already defended Biden from charges of "senility" and the like, I hope to have a better response considering they will have additional points the next time I see them. Somehow I don't think treating them as insincere trolls that should be dismissed will be very effective there.

Since some have asked who I support or am considering:

BIDEN <Gasp!> — But I have concerns that many of you think aren't even worth addressing or taking seriously
Pete — I worry that he's too young, too inexperienced (not sure how being gay would play in the GE either)
Warren — (I like her personally) Though I worry she is too liberal both for me and the GE

I had liked Harris, but I was always on the fence about how authentic she is. After the busing attack on Biden though, I can't help but think she does everything as a calculated political move.

Luckily, I don't judge candidates by his/her most ardent defenders (though it's exceptionally hard with many Bernie supporters)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
69. I'm trying the keto diet. Has anyone else done it?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:31 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
72. I have...It is very similar to Atkins...I lost quite a bit of weight but put it back on sadly...now
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:36 PM
Aug 2019

doing weight watchers...which I really like the new plan...I can't eat Gluten so I use some of the Keto recipes just not with all the fat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
74. It works...when I did it I didn't know I was a celiac so I felt great on it ...no wheat.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:37 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
76. I've been considering Atkins but I don't have the willpower to cut out my bad eating habits.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:41 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
77. That is why I like weight watchers...you can eat the food you like even if it is not the best for
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:45 PM
Aug 2019

you...and count points....lost 15 lbs in two months...you lose it slow on WW... no doubt KETO is faster but I could never live on it...I can live on WW. Let me just say I am not promoting weight watchers or anything...just relating my personal experience.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
84. I think that might be the best option for me - will definitely seriously consider this...
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:57 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
103. I've really been helped with Keto products, condiments, brownie mixes, even the bread(mine
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:49 PM
Aug 2019

horrible, but there are others). It is not a diet I would endorse for people. Leaving that up to doctors. But there are tricks that make it easier and ways to do it that are more healthy.

Can up one’s cholesterol.

My eating habits became so bad, I had to get drastic, though weight watchers all around is the
diet health pros and dieting folks say is the best.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
89. Doing it now. We can follow up on the topic If you'd like to start it on "health" forum.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:09 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
98. PS Keto-ers at health forum, weight maintenance and loss sub-category, nt
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:44 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

snowybirdie

(5,227 posts)
80. Wow
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:48 PM
Aug 2019

scraping the bottom of the barrel. Chill.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
88. Nitpickers are at it again.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:08 PM
Aug 2019

Joe Biden is the candidate that can defeat drumpf. So what is your goal?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
91. Face it. Joe Biden is too old.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

I'm amazed how many of his supporters have come to his defense here. I like Joe but he won't make a good President. Neither would Bernie or Elizabeth. I want a President who is younger and more aware and energetic than me (68).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
113. Good. That's what you would like. Other than Biden being "too old," you offer no facts to support
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:52 PM
Aug 2019

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your opinion that he “won’t make a good president.” Warren and Sanders are also “too old” to do the job.

You are stuck for now with three top-tier candidates who are simply “too old” to fit your notion of
the age range a president must be in to “make a good president.”

Well, blame modern medicine and the fact that some folks over 68 do have the qualifications, experience, and knowledge to be an excellent president.

Such a one is Joe Biden.

Although neither Warren nor Sanders have equal job-specific knowledge and experience to Biden’s,
and both are seriously lacking foreign policy bonafides, they are more than alert, energetic, and
intellectually developed to run circles around most people decades younger. Many believe they
would make the best Prez ever. This includes independents.

Is 2020 the year of the elder? As a baby boomer, you should have seen this trend coming.

If FDR could govern in a wheelchair, Kennedy inspire our nation for generations while often in pain and ill, think what a person with character, wisdom, moral fortitude, and good health could do, at any age, though wisdom and character often grow with the years.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Green Line

(1,123 posts)
120. Joe has been gaffing for many years
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:11 AM
Aug 2019

It doesn’t have anything to do with his age. I gaff all the time, has nothing to do with my age.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
92. The horror, the horror. Meanwhile, over at the WH, we have a potus who is deep into dementia....
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:16 PM
Aug 2019

...and no longer capable of hiding the sociopathy with the charm he evidently used to have. Every other statement is ghastly.

Eyes on the prize, people. Joe is a good man, a bright man, highly qualified -- and occasionaly trips over his own tongue and always has. He's so far above Trump you can't even measure it.

Cut it out and let idiots like Chuck Todd do this dirty work.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
99. He's made many gaffes but I'd let this slide.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:44 PM
Aug 2019

He can easily-and sadly-explain this away as there have been so many school shootings he-and the public-sometimes jumble them. He could use it as a great argument for better gun safety standards by expressing that there never should have been so many that they become blurred.

A good campaign manager could easily work around this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
100. He just needs to get these things out of his system before the general starts.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:45 PM
Aug 2019

As long as he corrects himself soon after, spreads them out and it doesn't come off like a "McCain questioning Comey" moment, he's fine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turbineguy

(37,329 posts)
104. Fuck it.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:52 PM
Aug 2019

Let's all vote for trump. That way we don't have to worry about these little gaffs by Democratic Candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,759 posts)
108. Hell.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:09 PM
Aug 2019

Let's all stay at home and pout instead of voting.

Look how well that worked last time.

Spot on, Turbineguy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
105. Looks like the gaffe sniffer-outers are gaffe prone.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:54 PM
Aug 2019

I wonder if they still get paid?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
106. Unless he does much worse in next months, don't think that would bother me.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:02 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nini

(16,672 posts)
107. He's comforted so many shooting victims he mixed things up - perhaps?
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 11:02 PM
Aug 2019

Sad it's been so many it's hard to keep track in this crazy country.

I'll give him this.. he feels people's pain and has a solid heart. No one can doubt that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Grendam (Original post)

 

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
121. Joe Biden has been addressed as 'Mr. Vice President'
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 01:17 AM
Aug 2019

...from early 2009 to the present, so I don't think this is a big deal.

In 2018, people were still calling him "Mr. Vice President," so it's understandable if he mis-remembered a 2018 event as while he was VP. People at that meeting probably addressed him as "Mr. Vice President."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
124. This is like Obama saying there were 57 states. Big deal? No.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:39 AM
Aug 2019

If EVERYbody's slip-ups were emphasized in the media, we'd see Biden is no more "gaffe-prone" than the next person. But that doesn't happen because for the 2020 campaign the media has cast Biden in the role of The Gaffe-Prone Guy.

I've seen more stories about the slight goofs he made in his speech than I have about the other 99.999% if it.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
127. In view of a post on a new thread showing Biden talking about his visit with Parkland students
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 07:00 AM
Aug 2019

and survivors right after meeting with them, maybe time to revise your post. So he said he was VP when he met with them. The essential fact is that he did meet with them when Pence would not.

Biden has been involved with gun control for years. He wrote strong gun control legislation and again handled the issue in the Obama administration.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
131. Ah someone posted the truth...thought it might interest you...do have a nice day.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 11:16 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
135. Symone Sanders-"I want to be very clear: this is a press narrative, not a voter narrative."
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:42 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
136. Opinion: There are more important things to worry about than Biden's gaffes
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:43 PM
Aug 2019



My response to both was the same, as it was when I was asked about the Biden issue on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports.” There is a racist sitting in the Oval Office implementing a white supremacist policy agenda. So, you focus on Biden’s mouth marbles, and I’ll keep my eyes on the prize. The prize being the eviction of Trump from the White House.

As Waldman also wrote, Trump “is waging a reelection campaign based on racism and fear,” not to mention being “the most prolific liar in American political history (he just passed 12,000 false or misleading claims).” And what makes the focus on Biden’s mouth extra aggravating is how it wipes our memories of the moronic things said by this president, as my follower @absolut_irish was so kind to remind Biden’s critics.


Some of these are funny. Some are worthy of a cocked eyebrow. But they are not nearly as consequential as the racist and white supremacist beliefs parroted by Trump and the right-wing echo chamber that found their way into the manifesto of the suspect in the El Paso mass shooting, who told police his target was "Mexicans.” The atmosphere of menace and danger is now indisputable. Your time would be better spent worrying about the shredding of our values, ideals and the rule of law than the flubs of a particular candidate who would put an end to this shameful chapter.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
137. "I like Biden, but all these mishaps are really concerning"
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:09 AM
Aug 2019

...and that's the back of the t-shirt

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
138. "All the usual suspects"
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:19 AM
Aug 2019

Also known as white nationalist pieces of shit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
139. What about trump's gaffes?
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 06:40 PM
Aug 2019

Biden's so-called gaffes will not be an issue in the general election https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/democrats-battle-each-other-trump-s-greatest-ally-time-n1042191#anchor-Whatabouthisgaffes

But if Biden’s gaffes were substantial news, why wasn’t there the same level of discussion on what President Trump said yesterday in Pennsylvania?

“That’s a lot of people back there for a — like an 11 o’clock speech. That’s a lot of people. (Laughter.) That’s a lot.” (In fact, the speech was after 2:00 pm ET.)

“This Shell petrochemical plant in Beaver County, Pennsylvania — I did very well here. We did very well. How many points did we win by? Does anybody know? I'll tell you. Isn't it, I think, 28 points?
That's a lot.” (Trump won Beaver County by 19 points in 2016.)

“I got sued on a thing called ‘emoluments.’ Emoluments. You ever hear the word? Nobody ever heard of it before. They went back. Now, nobody looks at Obama getting $60 million for a book.” (Obama signed his book deal in 2017, after leaving office.)

Trump’s two and a half years in office definitely have changed the political and media world.

Shouldn’t they also change how we cover gaffes and misstatements?
If I were to vote in a presidential
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