Sorry Steve Bullock - You can't run for the Democratic Nominee for President & say "DEMOCRAT PARTY"

[Pachamama]

Last edited Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Just watching him live talking to Ali Velshi as he explained his positions and claimed that a Red State candidate should head the DEMOCRAT PARTY ticket....

Is he trying to get Republican Red State Vote? Fine. But if you want to be the Democratic Party nominee, don't use code from the Repukes and use an incorrect name of your party. Unless you refer every time to the Republic Party and its just a thing with folks from Montana.



Here is the video - he says it at 6:26

I just think it’s of all people if you wish to be a credible candidate to be the nominee for a party, you should know it’s proper name and not the slur propagated by GOP and used as a slur.

A Democrat is a member of the Democratic Party - not the Democrat Party. We are Democrats.

Just as a Republican is a member of the Republican Party - not the Republic Party. They are Republicans - not Republics.

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[elleng]

1. This whole 'conversation' is silly, imo;

I bet that MOST people, including Democrats, have no idea that this is an 'issue.'

[WheelWalker]

2. I have no idea why it is objectionable. Seeking enlightenment.

[elleng]

3. I called it SILLY, because I think most people don't know it's an issue.

Surely these days there are enough REAL issues between all of us, not a good idea to create new ones.

[USALiberal]

5. Most dems notice it immediately! Nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. I'm sorry to disagree, but it's not silly. It is subtle, however.

People hear the sneer, the slur whenever republicans use this term. They absorb it. And then it becomes normal and awful.

It's propaganda.

[WheelWalker]

6. Why is it a slur? Am I just dense?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. No, you're not dense, but it is subtle.

After all, the words democratic and democrat aren't very different. But when they say "democrat party" they are putting our party down.

This pays off for them and people just like them very slowly. As I said, it normalizes the phrase and it enters everyday speech. But it's really propaganda.

[dlk]

9. Republicans Were the First to Use the Term - It Was Meant as a Slur/Put Down

It's an intentional mispronunciation to signal Democrats are ignorant.

[Funtatlaguy]

12. Republican pollster and strategist Frank Luntz started it.

He said it emphasizes rats 🐀.
He said it takes away a positive. People like being called democratic.
To change the name of our party from the Democratic to the Democrat party makes them smile.
Like they got one over on us.
If we called them the Republic Party, they would go nuts.
By and large, our party has not objected. So, many people now think it is our name. It’s not!

[questionseverything]

13. this matters only to people that have no real problems

[TwilightZone]

29. For the GOP, it's intentional, which makes it idiotic.

The GOP knows that it's "Democratic", but they say "Democrat" on purpose because they think it's cute. Intentional ignorance like that should be mocked and called out at all opportunities.

Bullock, on the other hand, more than likely did it unintentionally. If he's doing it on purpose, someone needs to explain the difference between nouns and adjectives to him.

[magicarpet]

34. If he is that fucking tone deaf maybe he should run for dog catcher.

The Fascist Rethugs started its use as an insult to accentuate the work RAT,.. ha ha get it,.. subhuman.

They used it to piss off libs. Libs said/did nothing to stop or curtail the insult,.. now it has become normalized in Rethug vernacular and now sometimes used by Dems too.

It is like we are borrowing their insults to describe ourselves. And we can't figure out why we are commonly termed the weak party absent street smarts and the stamina to defend ourselves from external attack.

Propaganda ? Yes,.. Propaganda which denotes Weakness,... we follow along blindly rather than nip it in the bud and put our foot down to cease and desist at the outset. So the insult becomes normalized against us into perpetuity.

[TwilightZone]

37. "Libs said/did nothing to stop or curtail the insult"

Wouldn't have mattered. After they ran the DemocRAT ad years ago, it was pretty much set in stone that they were going to use it as a slur for the rest of time.

Trump gets called out on his BS all the time. He just doubles down. I'm not sure there's really much we can do about it if people choose to be intentionally obtuse about it.

[Merlot]

31. But those of us who do find it insulting can't ignore it.

Nor can we accept it coming from a candadate.

[dlk]

7. Repeating a Slur Isn't a Winning Strategy

If someone can't correctly pronounce the name of the party they are campaigning to be the leader of, they probably aren't qualified for the leadership role.

[MarcA]

10. It has a long history as a slur to put down Democrats.

That a Democratic Candidate would use such indicates a lack
of awareness; maybe even an appeal to drump voters.

[pangaia]

11. I have the solution, my DU friends----

We should ALL start using DEMOCRAT !!!!

Wouldn't that be a hoot ???

[TwilightZone]

30. Nah, it sounds ignorant.

Particularly when it's done intentionally by the GOP.

[Hortensis]

14. THIS again?! Democrat is a fine, noble word and it means YOU!

And the sacred principles we stand for. You want to trash yourself and what should be your principles because some low-lifes are jerking your chain?

Shouldn't you be refusing to vote for anyone who uses the word "Democratic" also while you're at it? They absolutely use that one as an insult, every time. Also liberal, also progressive, also every other word that describes what we stand for that makes them look bad in comparison. When they made "empathy" a smear, did you cross any politician who used that off your list?

Let them be the stupid poo-poos. They can't help it.

Someone needs to be the principled grown-ups. That's us.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Democrat is a fine noble noun. It is not an adjective. . . . nt

[Hortensis]

20. I don't have a "Kick me, I'm stupid" chain to jerk. At least not this one.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

38. I wasn't kicking you. I was agreeing that Democrat is a fine word. Not all uses are so great tho.

[Hortensis]

39. Oh, not YOU, Bernardo, the chain-jerking Republicans,

Jerks for short.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Funtatlaguy]

17. What gives them the right to change our name.

I’ve never understood why we allow this.
To Joy Reid’s credit, she always calls people on it.
Once again, the name of our Party is the Democratic Party.
People who belong to it, like most of us here, are Democrats.
I’m a Democrat because I align myself with the Democratic Party.

[Hortensis]

23. Even if you don't understand or agree, we all only have so much

we can care about, and there's always too much. Should this silliness be displacing real suffering and crying needs?

[Funtatlaguy]

24. It's a matter of pride and it's easy to correct and embarrass them.

“Im surprised that somebody as smart about political matters as you are doesn’t know the names of our two main political parties”.

That leaves them either smiling (because I called their shit out) or frowning because they’ve been led to believe our name changed and really don’t know it’s a slight.

If someone called you by a wrong name, wouldn’t you correct them?
Doesn’t our wonderful Democratic Party deserve the same respect?

***And, yes, this is a farking pet peeve of mine. I know most don’t care, though.

[WheelWalker]

22. I guess I'm just a thick-skinned Democrat.

My dad use to say, "Son... an insult is like a drink of alcohol. It only affects you if you take it."

[IronLionZion]

15. Bullock should run for the Senate seat in Montana

that is up in 2020 and currently held by a publican.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

19. I see what you did there!

[Paladin]

18. Bullock ought to withdraw his candidacy for this mindless insult to the party. (nt)

[Merlot]

32. He's running for VP, thinks the whole "red state" thing will work

If we were going to pick a VP from a red state, it would be one more likely to go blue or have coat tails, like Texas.

Montana has what, 3 electorial votes? Kind of a wast of a VP pick if that's the strategy.

[Tiggeroshii]

21. Honest mistake in his case, most likely

He has been a reliable Democratic Governor and there's no reason to doubt his credentials because of what he calls our party. Now when Trump does it, that's a whole nother thing.

[Funtatlaguy]

25. Go back and watch 2016 tapes of Trump, if you can stand it.

He used Democratic Party correctly during his first year.
But someone like Luntz or McConnell got to him and told him to start saying Democrat Party about a year ago or so. Now, he always says it.

[Tiggeroshii]

26. For Trump even the kindest gestures are made with nefarious intent.

Because that is the kind of psycho he is

[CTyankee]

28. Yes, I think it is, too. Hopefully, one or more of his advisors will correct him.

Let's wait to pass judgment if he does it again. Maybe one of his advisors reads DU and can pass it along to him. He really needs to stop that now.

[MustLoveBeagles]

36. I'm giving him a break on this

Hopefully it's an isolated incident.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. It is a slur, but the younger generations dont know that or care.

I will vote for ANYBODY with a D after their name if the alternative is a con, but I wish he would not say that.

[Gothmog]

33. Only the GOP use this crap-It is the Democratic Party and not the Democrat Party

[MustLoveBeagles]

35. I voted that it isn't okay for a Democrat to use the term

That said, I think this was probably a slip up Steve Bullock's part and not intended as an insult so I'll cut him some slack. If he keeps doing it then I'll get upset about it.

A little history about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)