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demmiblue

(36,846 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:23 AM Aug 2019

I Don't Hate Women Candidates -- I Just Hated Hillary and Coincidentally I'm Starting to Hate...

I Don’t Hate Women Candidates — I Just Hated Hillary and Coincidentally I’m Starting to Hate Elizabeth Warren

...

So I’m a perfectly reasonable, women-friendly fellow who is completely open to the idea of a woman president. And I never thought I’d hate anyone as much as I hate Hillary Clinton. But to my surprise, I’m actually starting to hate Elizabeth Warren.

Don’t get me wrong. I’ve heard that Elizabeth Warren is a champion of consumers and the middle class who battled the big banks and advocates for economic reform. Nonetheless, she rubs me the wrong way.

I hate the way she dealt with Donald Trump’s incessant attacks against her, for example. Why did Elizabeth Warren have to take that DNA test? Why couldn’t she have handled his abuse the exact right way? If I were being libeled by the President at his toxic mob rallies of hate, by golly, I would know just how to turn that into a moment of pure perfection.

And you know the DNA test is a huge deal, because Breitbart published five different stories about it over the course of 24 hours. Though I have never once in my life given a thought about the welfare of Native Americans, I am totally offended on their behalf. The fact they have criticized Elizabeth Warren just bolsters my claim that she’s the worst person ever, besides Hillary Clinton, and thus endeth my Native American advocacy until the day I die.

...

I always tell my daughters they can be anything they want, so long as they don’t make other people feel uncomfortable. They can be as ambitious as they want, so long as they do it in an acceptable manner. They can reach for the stars, which you can see right up there on the ceiling painted to resemble a sky.

So bring it on, ladies! I’d love to see a female President. Just not Hillary Clinton. Or Elizabeth Warren. I am totally open to all other women leaders, but I have to admit that Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar are beginning to make me angry and I’m not sure why yet, but I know the reason will become clear soon, and I’m also wondering what they might look like if someone photoshopped their heads onto the bodies of prisoners and put them behind bars.

Reach for the stars, girls!

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/i-dont-hate-women-candidates-i-just-hated-hillary-and-coincidentally-im-starting-to-hate-elizabeth-warren


* Please note that this is satire before alerting.
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I Don't Hate Women Candidates -- I Just Hated Hillary and Coincidentally I'm Starting to Hate... (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2019 OP
Holy gawd. MontanaMama Aug 2019 #1
Yep... Spot on satire. I wish I could laugh at it. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #2
Ahhh yes...the old "you're sexist if you don't like Elizabeth Warren" satire DrToast Aug 2019 #3
Umm, no. n/t demmiblue Aug 2019 #5
This should have been a sentence in the piece. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #16
From the closing paragraph. Be careful what you wish for..... Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #18
There's a hypocrisy when it comes to gender on both sides. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #25
Exactly, react and then justify your reaction with any old thing Beringia Aug 2019 #4
Satire in its most basic and beautiful form. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #6
+1 n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #12
Another +1 nt spooky3 Aug 2019 #28
Totally agree. +1 dchill Aug 2019 #43
Have you ever considered a career in writing clickbait? n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #7
Have you ever considered a career in writing nonsensical responses? n/t demmiblue Aug 2019 #9
I meant it as a compliment. Really and truly! ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #11
The OP didn't write it--author is shown on link. Nt spooky3 Aug 2019 #29
Thanks. I didn't noice the link because i was in a hurry. n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #38
Oh, and thank you for posting this. I loved it. n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #39
De nada. demmiblue Aug 2019 #41
:) ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #45
This hits the nail right on the head - sexism, racism and ageism are all wrong and must stop. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #8
A clever satire. Sexism is far from vanquished. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #10
Sexism, Misogyny and Misogynoir are barely scratched IMO irisblue Aug 2019 #31
When real life gets this absurd, satire and irony become harder to recognize... Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #13
Very true - this sounds like the kind of comments rurallib Aug 2019 #22
Kinda sad you had to put the disclaimer at the end. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #14
Good piece. Suggest people clickthru to the original link. It's a lot better than just this excerpt thesquanderer Aug 2019 #15
Some satire seems all too real! mcar Aug 2019 #17
So, true.... Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #19
Very well done Leith Aug 2019 #20
Good satire is believable at first glance NastyRiffraff Aug 2019 #21
You can go to many of the coffee shops murielm99 Aug 2019 #36
I turned away the minute I got to the "I just hate Hillary" part. calimary Aug 2019 #23
I understand, but I think the author was trying to mock spooky3 Aug 2019 #32
Bloody hell you nearly had me! Soph0571 Aug 2019 #24
Warren has been a Democrat since 1996. dubyadiprecession Aug 2019 #26
Wow, that's a really, really long time to identify as a Democrat (and acting like one)! demmiblue Aug 2019 #44
The author is Devorah Blachor--she and A. Petri of the WaPo spooky3 Aug 2019 #27
Any Woman Except Hillary or Elizabeth JGug1 Aug 2019 #30
Hillary isn't running, JGug1. demmiblue Aug 2019 #37
I had to go back to realize it was satire treestar Aug 2019 #33
Poorly done satire---if satire is indeed what it is. Paladin Aug 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Aug 2019 #35
I'm starting to hate Harris, Klobuchar, Gillibrand, and Gabbard too IronLionZion Aug 2019 #40
I love good satire Gothmog Aug 2019 #42
Nice sarcasm nt Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #46
K&R betsuni Aug 2019 #47
This is perfect StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #48
alerted as "right wing talking point." rampartc Jan 2020 #49
 

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
1. Holy gawd.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:26 AM
Aug 2019

You almost had me. Taking a breath here. 😳

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
2. Yep... Spot on satire. I wish I could laugh at it. (nt)
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:27 AM
Aug 2019
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DrToast

(6,414 posts)
3. Ahhh yes...the old "you're sexist if you don't like Elizabeth Warren" satire
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:28 AM
Aug 2019
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
16. This should have been a sentence in the piece.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:30 AM
Aug 2019
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Farmer-Rick

(10,169 posts)
18. From the closing paragraph. Be careful what you wish for.....
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:44 AM
Aug 2019

"So bring it on, ladies! I’d love to see a female President. Just not Hillary Clinton. Or Elizabeth Warren. I am totally open to all other women leaders, but I have to admit that Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar are beginning to make me angry and I’m not sure why yet, but I know the reason will become clear soon, and I’m also wondering what they might look like if someone photoshopped their heads onto the bodies of prisoners and put them behind bars.

Reach for the stars, girls!"

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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
25. There's a hypocrisy when it comes to gender on both sides.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:36 PM
Aug 2019

You see it with Biden and Warren from the left. Half the attacks thrown at Biden by progressives would be deemed sexist if they were used against Warren. Hell, this site called out the sexism of the GOP when they attacked Hillary on her looks, her health and age - and yet, many of the same people are now using it to attack Biden.

Warren is a young 70! Biden is an old 70!

Warren doesn't look her age. Biden looks old.

I've seen people here call out Biden's apparent botox...stuff that, if used against a woman candidate, would probably end with the post being deleted. It's disappointing.

There are some valid reasons to be critical of Warren and her electability - and it's not just because she's a woman. They're the same criticisms for Bernie. There are some valid reasons to be critical of Biden, but I don't think it's valid to subtly question his intelligence and stamina for the job.

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Beringia

(4,316 posts)
4. Exactly, react and then justify your reaction with any old thing
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:30 AM
Aug 2019
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
6. Satire in its most basic and beautiful form.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:32 AM
Aug 2019

Very minimal embellishments with each point mocked being rooted in reality.

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ariadne0614

(1,729 posts)
7. Have you ever considered a career in writing clickbait? n/t
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:34 AM
Aug 2019
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demmiblue

(36,846 posts)
9. Have you ever considered a career in writing nonsensical responses? n/t
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:35 AM
Aug 2019
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ariadne0614

(1,729 posts)
11. I meant it as a compliment. Really and truly!
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:51 AM
Aug 2019

My intention was to say your post was incredibly effective. The title was irresistible, and it was impossible not to read all the way; to the end.

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spooky3

(34,447 posts)
29. The OP didn't write it--author is shown on link. Nt
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:47 PM
Aug 2019
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ariadne0614

(1,729 posts)
38. Thanks. I didn't noice the link because i was in a hurry. n/t
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:11 PM
Aug 2019
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ariadne0614

(1,729 posts)
39. Oh, and thank you for posting this. I loved it. n/t
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:15 PM
Aug 2019
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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
8. This hits the nail right on the head - sexism, racism and ageism are all wrong and must stop.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:34 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,146 posts)
10. A clever satire. Sexism is far from vanquished.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aug 2019
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irisblue

(32,973 posts)
31. Sexism, Misogyny and Misogynoir are barely scratched IMO
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:47 PM
Aug 2019

Sad to say

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Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
13. When real life gets this absurd, satire and irony become harder to recognize...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:22 AM
Aug 2019
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rurallib

(62,413 posts)
22. Very true - this sounds like the kind of comments
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:28 PM
Aug 2019

that you could easily hear in everyday life. Maybe have heard.

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Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
14. Kinda sad you had to put the disclaimer at the end.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:26 AM
Aug 2019

But I guess these days it is getting more and more difficult to tell. Well done blog post.

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thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
15. Good piece. Suggest people clickthru to the original link. It's a lot better than just this excerpt
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:28 AM
Aug 2019
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mcar

(42,311 posts)
17. Some satire seems all too real!
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:36 AM
Aug 2019
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Farmer-Rick

(10,169 posts)
19. So, true....
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:46 AM
Aug 2019

"I am totally open to all other women leaders, but I have to admit that Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar are beginning to make me angry and I’m not sure why yet,".

From the last paragraph.

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Leith

(7,809 posts)
20. Very well done
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:06 PM
Aug 2019

It highlights that people are being taught to hate any Democratic woman who gets attention. If anyone asks why the hate, just any ol' excuse will do.

Well, let's make that any Democrat, woman or man.

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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
21. Good satire is believable at first glance
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:12 PM
Aug 2019

And this is good satire. Sadly, it's very believable that many men and some women think this way.

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murielm99

(30,738 posts)
36. You can go to many of the coffee shops
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:58 PM
Aug 2019

in my area and find people who think exactly this way. They are not afraid to say so, either.

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calimary

(81,239 posts)
23. I turned away the minute I got to the "I just hate Hillary" part.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:30 PM
Aug 2019

Sorry. I just don’t have that much of a sense of humor about that. It’s NOT a joke to me.

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spooky3

(34,447 posts)
32. I understand, but I think the author was trying to mock
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:50 PM
Aug 2019

Sexist people who claim to be nonsexist, a la Daily Show, Colbert, etc. They are pointing out a problem and showing how ridiculous these statements are, rather than simply going for laughs.

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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
24. Bloody hell you nearly had me!
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:30 PM
Aug 2019

I was about to get very outraged indeed and go on a full rant about the Patriarchy. I will refrain myself but we all know that the best satire is that closest to the real world....

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dubyadiprecession

(5,711 posts)
26. Warren has been a Democrat since 1996.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:42 PM
Aug 2019

It took her awhile to get disgusted by her GOP.

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demmiblue

(36,846 posts)
44. Wow, that's a really, really long time to identify as a Democrat (and acting like one)!
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:30 PM
Aug 2019

Yay for EW!


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spooky3

(34,447 posts)
27. The author is Devorah Blachor--she and A. Petri of the WaPo
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:44 PM
Aug 2019

are both excellent at satire and calling out sexism! Thanks.

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JGug1

(320 posts)
30. Any Woman Except Hillary or Elizabeth
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:47 PM
Aug 2019

I'm sorry. The satire here is poorly done.

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demmiblue

(36,846 posts)
37. Hillary isn't running, JGug1.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:10 PM
Aug 2019
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
33. I had to go back to realize it was satire
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:51 PM
Aug 2019

That's how bad things are today. Absolutely did not get it until the last paragraph when she said Harris and Klobuchar were making her angry.

A person named Devorah would seem to be female, but has a wife, could be gay or a guy named Devorah.

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Paladin

(28,256 posts)
34. Poorly done satire---if satire is indeed what it is.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:51 PM
Aug 2019

Reads like something directly taken from the Drudge Report. Sorry I wasted my time on it.

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IronLionZion

(45,438 posts)
40. I'm starting to hate Harris, Klobuchar, Gillibrand, and Gabbard too
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:16 PM
Aug 2019

purely coincidental.

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Gothmog

(145,195 posts)
42. I love good satire
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:23 PM
Aug 2019
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rampartc

(5,407 posts)
49. alerted as "right wing talking point."
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 08:47 AM
Jan 2020

well, i'm not real sure this is anyone's talking point even if not clearly labeled "satire."

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