Gillibrand Won't Comment on Possible Franken Comeback

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Gillibrand Won’t Comment on Possible Franken Comeback

August 19, 2019 at 12:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 45 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/08/19/gillibrand-wouldnt-comment-on-possible-franken-comeback/

"SNIP....

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) declined to say whether she opposes a comeback by former Sen. Al Franken, suggesting that the Minnesota Democrat should make that decision himself, the Washington Post reports.

Said Gillibrand: “We’re a country that believes in second chances. We believe in someone who has humility, who comes forward to say they’re sorry and they have paid consequences and want to reemerge — that’s always there for everyone. And that’s a decision for someone to make themselves. It’s not my decision. It’s certainly not my responsibility. It’s for someone else to make their own judgments and decisions. But there’s always a path for redemption for anybody.”

......SNIP"

[democratisphere]

1. Specially when a person has done nothing wrong.

[pangaia]

2. She is one of my senators.. an embarrassment to all new yorkers...

at least she gets most of her votes right...


she's a chameleon--- spell??

[Life_Long_Democrat]

15. Is that why 66% voted for her?

[pangaia]

31. In Nov 2018 there were 5.2 million registered Dems in NYS and 2.6 registered REP.

So registered Dems were at about 66%

Gillibrand received 4 million votes,.. her opponent, Chele Chiavacci Farley (right, WHO?) 2 million.
So Gillibrand received about 66% of the vote...

That's all I can tell ya. I ain't no political expert.

[peggysue2]

3. Wow. Love the largesse

Gillibrand also said something to the effect that Halperin and Franken should both be offered 'paths to redemption.'

With forgiveness like this you might as well remain in limbo.

[RussBLib]

4. is Franken considering a comeback?

That would be sweet. Sure, we believe in second chances. And he would really deserve one.

[tymorial]

5. I would hate being put into the position where I would have to vote for her

Or anyone like her for that matter. There should be no room in politics for opportunistic people who will exploit a social change movement for personal gain. And that is exactly what Gillibrand did.

[Life_Long_Democrat]

16. And what is the evidence of that?

And is the same true of Harris, Warren, Booker and Sanders?

[flamingdem]

6. Franken might come back!?

Oh that would be GRAND

[OnDoutside]

9. Oh yes indeed ! Come back to do what though ?

[OnDoutside]

7. Lol.

[onetexan]

8. Second chances? Path for redemption?? It's her that won't have any second chances or redemption with

me. Gillibrand should STHU and REDEEM HERSELF. It was shameful what she did to Al Franken. She is a opportunist and wouldn't hesitate to step on others for political expediency in a heartbeat.

[Life_Long_Democrat]

17. You mean what she and over 35 other Senators did

including Warren, Sanders, Harris and Booker.

[onetexan]

23. Them too

[USALiberal]

27. Gillbrand thought it would make her look like a leader! She made a huge mistake! good! nt

[Life_Long_Democrat]

29. How do you know what she thought?

Are you a mind reader?

[MyOwnPeace]

20. You got THAT right!!!!!

I'll follow her lead and give serious thought to perhaps maybe considering, after much consultation, deliberation, and debate, as to whether she should have the opportunity to perhaps step forward and ask for consideration and contemplation regarding the possibility of whether she would be considered worthy of said redemption.

After all, everybody deserves to be treated fairly, right?

[Kurt V.]

10. good answer.

[Funtatlaguy]

11. Is she polling at 1% or 0%...I haven't scrolled down recently.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Wow, that's a subject she doesn't want to touch with a ten foot pole

Brushing it away, and dusting herself of it

[yaesu]

13. i would love a Warren/Franken ticket. nt

[SCVDem]

14. Second Chance?!

For what?

She keeps beating the drum of guilt without a trial. STFU!

Hold a trial and let the chips fall. She should bet her career on it!

I predict Sen. Franken and citizen Gillibrand!

[Life_Long_Democrat]

18. Trial?

I don’t recall anyone accusing Franken of committing a crime.

[SCVDem]

19. He is no longer a Senator because.....?

Trial, hearing, what's it matter what you call it?

Bring forward the accusers.

Who paid them?

[Life_Long_Democrat]

21. Actually it would have been an ethics committee hearing

which is closed to the public and doesn’t determine guilt or innocence, only if Congressional ethics rules were violated.

Is there any evidence that other than Tweeden that any of the other 7 women were paid and were lying?

[SCVDem]

22. It appears you are happy with Franken getting screwed.

All of 19 posts.

Have a nice stay.

[Life_Long_Democrat]

24. Never said that

so don’t put words in my mouth.

I just think it is unfair to demonize one person for the actions of a group.

[ChubbyStar]

25. Having a sad?

[MyOwnPeace]

26. The "group"

didn't ride it to the top of the front page, and many in "the group" have since then acknowledged that they were wrong in what they did at the time.

As for Senator Gillibrand, she's still holding court on an unfairly accused victim.

[Life_Long_Democrat]

28. Have Harris, Booker, Warren or Sanders

said they were wrong?

And as far as riding it to the top of the front page, it was and still is the lazy media that did that.

In fact it was Harris who was the first to go on TV to call for Franken’s resignation.

[still_one]

32. In theory you would be correct, except she choose to grandstand on it, and went out of her way,

much more than the other Democratic to try to take political advantage of what she thought would elevate her position on sexual harassment.

and unfortunately, she seems to keep doubling down, by saying that Franken deserves to be given a chance at redemption, when she DID lead the charge to push him out. Yes, it was Franken's choice to step down, but it really wasn't a choice, when you have that kind of pressure exerted on you by your associates, and she was on the top of that list calling for it

She got the visibility she wanted at the time, and she is paying the consequences of that visibility for NOT letting the Franken episode run its natural course where he could have ended up resigning anyway.

It is what one calls political pandering, and by all appearances it is not working out for her on a national level

What happens in NY is up to New Yorkers

[Life_Long_Democrat]

33. How did she grandstand?

She made a Facebook post and held a press conference with several other Senators. She wasn’t even the first to go on TV to call for Franken’s resignation, that was Harris.

You’re assigning a lot of motives with no evidence. Do you have proof of any?

[still_one]

34. its that damn unscurpulous media spreading those viscious lies

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand was the first senator to call for former Minnesota Sen. Al Franken’s resignation when sexual misconduct allegations were brought against him.

Gillibrand led the charge, writing a lengthy Facebook post entitled "Senator Franken Should Step Aside."
"While Senator Franken is entitled to have the Ethics Committee conclude its review, I believe it would be better for our country if he sent a clear message that any kind of mistreatment of women in our society isn’t acceptable by stepping aside to let someone else serve," Gillibrand wrote.


https://www.facebook.com/KirstenGillibrand/posts/senator-franken-should-step-asidei-have-been-shocked-and-disappointed-to-learn-o/10155471770513411/


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/23/kirsten-gillibrand-no-regrets-asking-al-franken-resignation/1802775001/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/26/al-franken-kirsten-gillibrand-2020-1014697


As for this "evidence" that you are asking for, my response is she is getting the Al Franken treatment

[Life_Long_Democrat]

36. Yes she was first

and quickly followed by many other Senators within minutes.

https://qz.com/1148972/al-franken-all-of-the-senators-calling-for-his-resignation/

But there is no evidence that she "led the charge".

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/senators-al-franken-resignation/index.html

But you are right, she is getting the treatment that Franken supporters accuse her of. Demonetization based on little evidence.

[guillaumeb]

30. Does she also believe in innocent until proven guilty? eom

[Bradshaw3]

35. Redemption? Was he in the Manson family?

Try and keep things in proportion senator. I mean it's not like he was a longtime supporter of the NRA like you. How much harm has that organization you were proud to support done to this country? Maybe you should ask for redemption.

[mitch96]

37. "Gillibrand on Possible Franken Comeback "

Wow, I did not know she had that much power over Franken's future plans....
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