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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:03 PM Aug 2019

Susan Sarandon Puts HARD Hit on Elizabeth Warren at Bernie Sanders Rally

The Bernie Sanders campaign once again goes scorched earth by attacking Elizabeth Warren, since she has not always been a Democrat. Really? Bernie Sanders who changes parties more often the some people change socks is attacking Warren? Also, relying on Green Partier Susan Sarandon to tell Democrats about party loyalty?

The only thing Bernie Sanders is really good at is doing a scorched earth campaign against actual Democrats.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-susan-sarandon-puts-hard-hit-on-elizabeth-warren-at-bernie-sanders-rally/

Actress and activist Susan Sarandon took the gloves off at a Bernie Sanders rally by attacking Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren in one of the worst ways imaginable for a Democratic candidate, dredging up a little-discussed skeleton in Warren’s political closet.

Sarandon spent the 2016 presidential campaign attacking Hillary Clinton, but this time around, she’s set her sights on another woman who’s running against Sanders. At an “ice cream social” event in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sarandon introduced Sanders with an ode to his political consistency.

“I’m heartened by the fact that so many people are on the ground knocking on doors and helping to give information that the mainstream media either is suppressing or corrupting or misrepresenting,” Sarandon said. “It’s so, so important, because when people know and when they hear the senator’s policies, when they see his track record, when they know how authentic he is and how he has been fighting for these issues for so long, that he is the only one that had that reputation.”

“He is not someone who used to be a Republican, he is not someone who used to take money, or still thinks money, from Wall Street, he is the real deal,” Sarandon added.
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Susan Sarandon Puts HARD Hit on Elizabeth Warren at Bernie Sanders Rally (Original Post) TomCADem Aug 2019 OP
What's worse, a candidate who has been a Democrat for "only" 23 years, or one.... George II Aug 2019 #1
George, that is a tough question. Can you give a few clues? Blue_true Aug 2019 #15
lol Cha Aug 2019 #25
Lol. yardwork Aug 2019 #41
It was a mild dig. Not scorched earth. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #2
It Was a BS Attack Given Bernie and Sarandon's Own Record Regarding Party Loyalty TomCADem Aug 2019 #3
They could ignore Bernie or laugh at him. murielm99 Aug 2019 #5
Well at least the comment it is inarguably true. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #38
It wasn't a hard hit, IMO. MontanaMama Aug 2019 #4
So was I - raised by staunch Republican parents who did not... 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #10
What a lovely story.... MontanaMama Aug 2019 #11
I hope she lives long enough to see Trump... 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #13
I think we should have recs. for reply to posts as well as acknowledging pennylane100 Aug 2019 #14
Lucky you. A 97 year old Mom. You have what a lot of people can never have, cherish it. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #16
I do. 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #19
I was thinking this too. MontanaMama Aug 2019 #20
Heh, I was Republican during Highschool, and shortly after myself. Amimnoch Aug 2019 #31
My Mom was a Republican in the 1950s but then switched.. she voted for Kennedy over Nixon eilen Aug 2019 #29
Ice cream social? Shouldn't she be storming the ramparts somewhere? Scurrilous Aug 2019 #6
Someone said that she got arrested protesting at southern border Blue_true Aug 2019 #18
Describing this as a HARD (capitalized) Hit Is a Bit of a STRETCH Indykatie Aug 2019 #7
Ikr.. I already knew about this.. Cha Aug 2019 #26
So it looks like the Warren-Sanders non-aggression pact is comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #8
Warren Campaign Faces Unfair Labor Charge by Sanders Supporter TomCADem Aug 2019 #9
I'd forgotten all about that, thanks for the reminder... comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #22
That's what I said yesterday.. lol Cha Aug 2019 #27
Life in today's America is getting stranger all the comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #34
Yes! We need the Cha Aug 2019 #35
Susan Sarandonald Blue Owl Aug 2019 #12
Al Gore was a Democrat JI7 Aug 2019 #17
At first I thought she was referring to Hillary Clinton. betsuni Aug 2019 #21
How dare she endorse our nominee... comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #23
So did Bernie, but of course that doesn't count. betsuni Aug 2019 #24
EW MFM008 Aug 2019 #28
Apparently Sarandon thougjt Warren was the " RIGHT woman" in 2016 irisblue Aug 2019 #30
Of couse he would get traitor Sarandon, enabler of Nazis, to trash Warren for him. lark Aug 2019 #32
I'd disagree with you "hard" characterization - let's try to be honest here. Joe941 Aug 2019 #33
I'd think that by now, the number of Democrats who'll listen to Sarandon about politics muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #36
Some BS supporters are starting to see the writing on the wall. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #37
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #40
She did it at the behest of and full knowledge of the BS campaign. nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #39
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. What's worse, a candidate who has been a Democrat for "only" 23 years, or one....
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:08 PM
Aug 2019

...who is a "Democrat" for only a few months every four years?

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. George, that is a tough question. Can you give a few clues?
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:41 AM
Aug 2019
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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
2. It was a mild dig. Not scorched earth.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:11 PM
Aug 2019

I like Warren a lot and not bothered by the dig.

Warren's record after leaving the Republican Party is compelling.

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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
3. It Was a BS Attack Given Bernie and Sarandon's Own Record Regarding Party Loyalty
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:19 PM
Aug 2019

Bernie repeatedly switches parties by running in the Vermont Senate Democratic party, then declining the nomination. For all of Bernie's talk about running a campaign based on the issues, his campaign's main strength is character assassinations of Democrats.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/bernie-sanders-fans-can-t-be-allowed-poison-another-democratic-ncna953976

Bernie Sanders' fans can't be allowed to poison another Democratic primary with personal attacks

Bernie supporters have made questionable claims about contributions to O'Rourke from the oil and gas industry, as well as his support for certain Republican-sponsored House bills — but neglect to mention that the oil and gas money came mostly from low-level industry employees (hundreds of thousands of Texans are employed by the industry), and that O'Rourke broke ranks with his party less than the average Democrat.

The real problem for Sanders' supporters seems to be that this "Kennedyesque golden boy," as one has derided O'Rourke, seems perfectly poised to steal Sanders' thunder among millennials and white liberals with his fresh energy and personal charisma. Thus, it's not enough to disagree with O'Rourke; his persona and reputation must be dragged through the mud.

Democrats should greet this early maneuvering by Sanders' supporters with alarm. If Democrats cannot show such tactics — which will be used against any non-Sanders candidate, because no one can get to the left of a socialist — for what they are, they ignore them at their own peril.

Failing to end this internecine warfare will mean that all members of the Democratic Party running for its presidential nomination will face months of minuscule ideological litmus tests turned into character assassinations. The narrative, driven by the far left and lapped up by the press, will likely result in a nomination fight that could well devolve into the kind of pointless factionalism that will only help Republicans.
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murielm99

(30,736 posts)
5. They could ignore Bernie or laugh at him.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:25 PM
Aug 2019

They could say that they signed a pledge not to attack other candidates, so they do not wish to comment on anything Sanders or his supporters, or his staff, have to say. They could point out their own positions and records. They could say they will not take part in any circular firing squads.

If they all take this position, Sanders would be frozen out. He is not going to win the nomination anyway.

Ignore all accusations when the press mentions them. Ignore them and laugh at the same time. All politicians know how to smile and laugh on cue.

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
38. Well at least the comment it is inarguably true.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:35 PM
Aug 2019

I’m fine with Warren’s past and I’m fine with Bernie’s convenient party affiliation. Both are great for the party.

I might not even be a Democrat anymore if it weren’t for Bernie Sanders.

I’d never vote for a Republican, but I wasn’t happy either.

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MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
4. It wasn't a hard hit, IMO.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:21 PM
Aug 2019

Senator/professor Warren was a Republican when she was 19 and before she knew better. Bernie isn’t a Democrat and he still hasn’t learned his lesson.

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3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
10. So was I - raised by staunch Republican parents who did not...
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:52 PM
Aug 2019

...encourage me to think for myself, nor to disagree with them about anything.

Happy to say, my mom saw the light when she voted for Clinton, and she adored President Obama. At 97, she cannot quite bring herself to identify as a Democrat, and calls herself an independent, but she definitely votes blue these days.

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MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
11. What a lovely story....
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:08 AM
Aug 2019

Your mom’s political evolution...independent/dem, whatever. I’m glad you still have her at 97. I love that she thought so much of President Obama.

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3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
13. I hope she lives long enough to see Trump...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:15 AM
Aug 2019

...defeated.

I hope we ALL live long enough to see that!

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pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
14. I think we should have recs. for reply to posts as well as acknowledging
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:36 AM
Aug 2019

for reply to posts as well as acknowledging the post itself. I absolutely agree with you.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. Lucky you. A 97 year old Mom. You have what a lot of people can never have, cherish it. nt
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:49 AM
Aug 2019
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3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
19. I do.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:52 AM
Aug 2019

She is quite feisty, and sharp as a tack, mentally.

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MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
20. I was thinking this too.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:53 AM
Aug 2019

Made me smile.

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Amimnoch

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31. Heh, I was Republican during Highschool, and shortly after myself.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:31 AM
Aug 2019

Slightly different circumstances. I hade the GREAT privilege of being raised by 2 wonderful flower-power hippies. But, I was also raised in a rural part of Louisiana with strong conservative roots. For me, being anti-progressive/liberal during that period was the result of rebelling against my parents, peer-pressure, trying to fit in, and self loathing of myself for the homosexual feelings that I had, yet kept extremely closely guarded.. to the point of refusing to even acknowledge it myself. Luckily, I grew out of it through the support and love of my parents and getting away from that toxic area by joining the Navy and slowly learning to love myself and others.

The 18 year old me was a hateful, homophobic, and sometimes even sadistic asshole who vehemently supported Republicans.

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eilen

(4,950 posts)
29. My Mom was a Republican in the 1950s but then switched.. she voted for Kennedy over Nixon
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:34 AM
Aug 2019

And from then on was a Democrat. But one could hardly blame her. She was an immigrant (from Germany- as were her parents) and she liked Ike.

It is laughable actually for candidates to start pointing fingers about this- esp. those over 50. Consider that there was a very large number of Democrats that voted for Reagan. And who did Bernie vote for before he turned 40? No one. Did he even have a party membership? He did not see the value of voting until he himself needed votes.

I think it is really silly that his surrogates throw darts at candidates like Warren. They should be pointing out the damage Republicans are doing not splitting hairs among themselves. I think these tactics are off-putting. Bernie already has enough charisma challenges, adding divisiveness like this makes his campaign less attractive.

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Scurrilous

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6. Ice cream social? Shouldn't she be storming the ramparts somewhere?
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:28 PM
Aug 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. Someone said that she got arrested protesting at southern border
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:51 AM
Aug 2019

camps. That is after she helped elect the person that made those camps a reality.

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Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
7. Describing this as a HARD (capitalized) Hit Is a Bit of a STRETCH
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:29 PM
Aug 2019
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Cha

(297,196 posts)
26. Ikr.. I already knew about this..
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 02:42 AM
Aug 2019

I was expecting more at the ice cream social.

It was stupid.. but not a "hard hit" 'cause nobody gives a rip except her fans.

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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
8. So it looks like the Warren-Sanders non-aggression pact is
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:42 PM
Aug 2019

fraying around the edges. Next thing you know Sirota will write a hit piece on Warren for the Bern Notice.

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TomCADem

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9. Warren Campaign Faces Unfair Labor Charge by Sanders Supporter
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:49 PM
Aug 2019

Remember how Bernie was hit with a labor charge from one of his campaign staffers?

Former Bernie Sanders staffer files charge alleging retaliation for union activities
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/former-bernie-sanders-staffer-alleges-retaliation-for-union-activities.html

Well, in order to deflect, a Bernie supporter files a claim against Elizabeth Warren. Again, Bernie is doing the scorched earth act against Democratic candidates.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/warren-campaign-faces-unfair-labor-charge-by-sanders-supporter

Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s 2020 presidential campaign is facing an unfair labor practice charge alleging its confidentiality agreement with staffers unlawfully prevents them from speaking out on workplace issues.

The Aug. 13 challenge to the campaign’s non-disparagement clause was filed by Jason Legg, a tenant’s rights attorney in Denver, Colo., who supports Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for the Democratic nomination. The National Labor Relations Board accepts charges even if the filer isn’t an employee of the organization alleged to be violating federal labor laws.

* * *
Legg told Bloomberg Law that he hopes his charge spurs changes in the Warren campaign’s employment practices. He is targeting the campaign’s reported use of unpaid fellowships, as well as non-disparagement agreements that Legg says could stifle staffers’ labor rights.

“I can’t say I’m not at all politically motivated, I’m a Sanders supporter and Warren’s my second choice, so I guess this is one way to show the contrast,” Legg said. The reported fellowship program “is not consistent with everything else Warren says she believes and fights for” so “I hope people think about the substance of the charge rather than my interest” in supporting a different candidate, he said.
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comradebillyboy

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22. I'd forgotten all about that, thanks for the reminder...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:32 AM
Aug 2019
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Cha

(297,196 posts)
27. That's what I said yesterday.. lol
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 03:48 AM
Aug 2019

Did Warren throw the first one?..



Even though BS walked it back?

"bernotice" rofl

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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
34. Life in today's America is getting stranger all the
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:52 AM
Aug 2019

time. I'm ready for some normality for a change.

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Cha

(297,196 posts)
35. Yes! We need the
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:55 AM
Aug 2019

smartest people in charge!

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Blue Owl

(50,356 posts)
12. Susan Sarandonald
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:09 AM
Aug 2019

n/t

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JI7

(89,248 posts)
17. Al Gore was a Democrat
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:50 AM
Aug 2019
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betsuni

(25,486 posts)
21. At first I thought she was referring to Hillary Clinton.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:03 AM
Aug 2019

The usual inauthentic/Camp Weathervane/Goldwater Girl/Wall St. crap. I thought, wait, it isn't 2016. Only then did I realize she must be talking about Warren. The new Clinton. Warren's big sin was endorsing our Democratic Party nominee last time.

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comradebillyboy

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23. How dare she endorse our nominee...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:34 AM
Aug 2019
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betsuni

(25,486 posts)
24. So did Bernie, but of course that doesn't count.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 01:40 AM
Aug 2019

I'm sure there's a CT explaining it. Hillary beat him up with brass knuckles at the convention or whatever.

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MFM008

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28. EW
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:33 AM
Aug 2019

Strikes me as someone who could lay SS out cold....

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irisblue

(32,971 posts)
30. Apparently Sarandon thougjt Warren was the " RIGHT woman" in 2016
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:20 AM
Aug 2019

Susan Sarandon (@SusanSarandon) Tweeted:
I want a woman to be Pres. The RIGHT woman. Looking at you @SenWarren. 😁 https://t.co/GQ9ku7CLjs





Huh🤔 what changed?


(Marrics' tweet was deleted, I don't know when)
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lark

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32. Of couse he would get traitor Sarandon, enabler of Nazis, to trash Warren for him.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:48 AM
Aug 2019

That's just the kind of thing that he's always done, hurt the Dem part for his own vanity. He cares about nothing more than he does himself, certainly not the country or he wouldn't continue his constant efforts at hurting Democrats who are threatening his desired outcome.

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
33. I'd disagree with you "hard" characterization - let's try to be honest here.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:52 AM
Aug 2019
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muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
36. I'd think that by now, the number of Democrats who'll listen to Sarandon about politics
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 10:37 AM
Aug 2019

is maybe 10%? She's a fringe figure, what with her clowning around 4 years ago. She drags Sanders to the left, but probably turns away more Democrats than persuades anyone to the left of the party to get back in the primaries.

If I were Bernie, I'd get her to shut up and just give money. She's a reminder of why you can be too far left for practical politics.

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BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
37. Some BS supporters are starting to see the writing on the wall.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 12:32 PM
Aug 2019

Bernie is not only not going to be the nominee, he will almost certainly be off his 2016 pace when the votes and delegates get counted. After believing he was a virtual lock for the nomination, That anger, that frustration and that rage must have somewhere to go. My bet is it will go to vicious attacks on the actual Dems in the race. Right now it’s just the surrogates that are in attack mode but that will change. This still has the potential to be a very messy primary.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
39. She did it at the behest of and full knowledge of the BS campaign. nt
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:36 PM
Aug 2019
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