Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders's ambitious plan to double union membership, explained
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Sanderss plan calls for the end to at-will employment, aims to double union membership in his first term in office, and advocates for industry-wide collective bargaining. It also directly addresses criticism from those like former Vice President Joe Biden who argue Medicare-for-all, Sanderss central health care policy, could be bad for unions.
Sanders has made labor unions central to his presidential campaign platform. Union membership in the United States has been declining steadily since the 1980s. Only 10.7 percent of Americans were union members in 2018, compared to a third of workers in 1950s. As Voxs Dylan Matthews explained, this decline of union membership is a major factor in the increase in inequality in the US. Currently, women, Latinos, and African Americans represent the fastest-growing contingent of union membership.
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This morning Im joining workers in Milwaukee to demand every 2020 candidate release a detailed plan like Bernie Sanderss explaining how they will make it possible for all working people to join unions, Mary Kay Henry, the president of the Service Employees International Union, one of the largest and most influential unions in North America, tweeted Wednesday. This is no time for minor tweaks to our broken system.
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Sanders has long argued that if unions didnt have to spend all their political will fighting for health benefits, they would have more room to win higher wages and benefits. There is a wealth of research that has found increased health care costs bring down wage growth. Although theres less evidence that companies engage in the trade-off the other way, but as Sarah Kliff reported, experts in labor economics believe this relationship exists.
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/8/21/20826661/bernie-sanders-union-plan-labor-worker-rights-2020
This is a nice informative read.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Repeal the Taft-Hartley Act, and nominate worker friendly people to the NLRB.
Ever since the NLRA passed, over strong GOP objection, the right has been fighting back. That fight started with the passage of the Taft-Hartley Act which greatly weakened the NLRA.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)for health care does not mean employers will pay higher wages. Nor will it create more union workers.
Getting rid of right to work laws means people already in unions have to pay dues.
Bernie wheres the PLAN?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)There have been studies that show the rising cost of healthcare is one of big reasons wages have stagnated.
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/new-report-shows-the-harmful-effect-rising-health-care-costs-have-on-wage-stagnation-2018-09-04
New report shows the harmful effect rising health care costs have on wage stagnation
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)will have to pay for Medicare.
Saying things are so doesnt make it so.
Where is the plan for more unions?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)guess that $12.22 per hour will go on your check after MFA,and be making $57.00 an hour and pay insurance out of pocket?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)to pay an expense it does not mean they will pay that amount to employees.
That is what is wrong with MFA discussions. They are all built on unrealistic assumptions.
What will happen is that employers will pocket the money and employees will still have to pay Medicare for coverage.
Unless the Medicare coverage is better than employer provided coverage there is not much difference to the employee.
Another thing is MFA will be designed by Congress not by Bernie. Saying what it will be like is also not being realistic.
Why do intelligent people (I am assuming Bernie backers are intelligent) not critique what Bernie is saying? It is similar to trump followers believing everything he says.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)(snip)
Under this plan, all company savings that result from reduced health care contributions from Medicare for All will accrue equitably to workers in the form of increased wages or other benefits, the plan reads, adding that the unions will continue to be able to negotiate any coverage thats not duplicative of the benefits under Medicare-for-all. Sanderss Medicare For All bill proposes expanding current Medicare coverage to also include dental, vision and hearing.
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t should be noted that several of the countrys biggest unions agree with Sanderss reading of Medicare-for-all. As Vox reported in August, representatives from Association of Flight Attendants, American Federation of Teachers, and SEIU are all open if not supportive of single-payer health care.
Every time we go to the table the for-profit system has put so much pressure that when we get what we already have we call that a win, Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants, told Vox then about the difficulties negotiating health care poses. She added that having a government-sponsored baseline health insurance would go a long way to help unions negotiate better wages, and benefits in other areas of their contract.
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/8/21/20826661/bernie-sanders-union-plan-labor-worker-rights-2020
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)I am sorry but Bernies ideas are make believe and I am so dumbfounded that so many buy into them.
And where is the more unions plan!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)They do not dictate what employers do. Most employees are not in unions.
Again why do you not critique what Bernie is saying?
Why will reality as it exists now not be reality if Bernie is president?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MichMan
(11,918 posts)No non union facilities allowed
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)The Supreme Court matters. Explain how private sector employees in healthcare are going to get that going.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...lovin' it!
...I'm getting really good vibes...we can't do any better than Bernie...
...he's going to make a real positive difference in the lives of the American people when he's elected President...
...I can feel it...
...think President Sanders...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)that if we did get a President Bernie Sanders, he would not hesitate to use the Bully Pulpit to activate the American People and put pressure on Congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,334 posts)the concept of at-will employment pass, much less hold up in the courts.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,529 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Sanders said, ahead of a weekend Iowa campaign swing: "We are disappointed that some individuals have decided to damage the integrity of these efforts. We are involved in negotiations. And some are individuals that have decided to damage the integrity of that process before they were concluded."
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/07/19/bernie-sanders-campaign-staff-wage-15-hour-union-elizabeth-warren-campaign-wages/1781159001/
I guess Sanders needs to be briefed about labor law...
According to the NLRB:
In other words, employees have a right under the National Labor Relations Act generally to discuss their employment including with the press. Based on the finding that the policy was unlawful, the NLRB also found that the company violated labor law when it terminated two employees pursuant to the policy for speaking to the media about a workplace issue. A more narrowly tailored policy may have passed muster, but the broad media prohibition, in this case, crossed the line.
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/can-you-terminate-employee-talking-to-press
Interestingly, shortly after campaign staffers talked to the media...
Campaign leaders retaliated against me when I organized the bargaining unit and sent an email requesting compliance with the collective employment contract, the anonymous staffer wrote in the charge. The staffer also said that at least three campaign workers were fired in retaliation for their organizing and union activities, among other allegations.
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The staffer alleged that the campaign failed to notify us upon hire that we had a collective bargaining agreement and maintained that we were at-will. At-will workers generally can be fired at any time and for any reason the employer deems appropriate.
The staffer said campaign management promised some employees housing, and not others, despite that paid housing and expenses are required under the collective bargaining agreement. The Sanders campaign also broke the terms of its collective bargaining agreement by making staff work additional days and failing to provide days off, according to the charge allegations.
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The allegations come shortly after a tense period in the relationship between the Sanders campaign and the union representing its staffers was recently made public. The internal disagreements sparked some criticism of the White House candidatewho has made worker rights a central part of his pitch to votersfrom conservatives and Republican politicians.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/sanders-campaign-complaint-alleges-retaliation-for-unionizing
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden