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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:01 PM Aug 2019

Who Has Qualified for the September Democratic Presidential Primary Debate

https://time.com/5661886/who-qualified-september-democratic-debate/

The third Democratic presidential primary debate will take place on Thursday, Sept. 12, in Houston, Texas. ABC News and Univision will host the debate, which will be moderated by George Stephanopoulos, David Muir, Linsey Davis and Jorge Ramos. The DNC has said that if more than 10 candidates qualified, it would hold a a second debate on Sept. 13.

Effectively cutting out half of the field, the third debate will feature many of the primary’s front running facing each other on national television for the first time: Former Vice President Biden, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, California Sen. Kamala Harris and South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg will all appear on the stage together.

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Candidates who met both requirements and qualified

Former Vice President Joe Biden
New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker
South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg
Former HUD Sec. Julián Castro
California Sen. Kamala Harris
Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar
Former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders
Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren
Entrepreneur Andrew Yang
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Who Has Qualified for the September Democratic Presidential Primary Debate (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2019 OP
Garbage. El Supremo Aug 2019 #1
What is garbage about it? bitterross Aug 2019 #2
It doesn't really make sense to me that Michael Bennet should be out, pnwmom Aug 2019 #3
He met the criteria Trenzalore Aug 2019 #5
He's rich enough that he could spend money for lots of online ads to get the dollar donors. pnwmom Aug 2019 #6
Tom Steyer isn't on the debate stage and he is certainly richer Trenzalore Aug 2019 #7
Steyer started MUCH later (July 2019) than Yang (Nov. 2017) pnwmom Aug 2019 #8
Everyone has a strength and a weakness Trenzalore Aug 2019 #9
Yang doesn't spend much on ads; his "gang" makes memes for free Recursion Aug 2019 #17
Bingo. Everyone KNEW the rules coming in. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #10
Right. But the current rules advantage rich people with no proven ability in government pnwmom Aug 2019 #11
Campaigns are pulling money from all over the country. Blue_true Aug 2019 #12
Yeah, who cares that we have ten years to prevent the cascade of events toward pnwmom Aug 2019 #13
Climate change and it's outcomes is not obvious to some people, Blue_true Aug 2019 #14
This is a good idea and I am not for Yang...no way given political realities that we will be able Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #22
I am not saying we can fix it in 10 years. We have to make a major turn in 10 years that will pnwmom Aug 2019 #25
You can't make a huge effort if the political will isn't there...all you do is elect Republicans who Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #27
Great leaders LEAD. They don't just follow public opinion polls. pnwmom Aug 2019 #28
I can tell you what Yang is running on. I can't tell you what Bennett is running on Recursion Aug 2019 #18
That's also because Yang has been running since November 2017. pnwmom Aug 2019 #20
What's the alternative? DrToast Aug 2019 #24
Good. That is enough candidates still_one Aug 2019 #4
Can a Candidate qualify for a later debate if they do not qualify for the September Debate? n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #15
I think I heard that they could, and that the standard for October was the same as September. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #16
Thank you for the answer. n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #29
Yes Recursion Aug 2019 #19
Wow. This could make for all kinds of bizarre scenarios. n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #30
If you are not in the top three...than you should leave the race. We don't need so many candidates. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #23
It's good to have the field getting winnowed down nt bloom Aug 2019 #21
two old white dudes evertonfc Aug 2019 #26
 

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
1. Garbage.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:04 PM
Aug 2019

Not the candidates, but the process.

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bitterross

(4,066 posts)
2. What is garbage about it?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:11 PM
Aug 2019

If you can't raise the funds or get the numbers in the polls then you deserve to be eliminated. You're just wasting space.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
3. It doesn't really make sense to me that Michael Bennet should be out,
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:21 PM
Aug 2019

but a young businessman whose main claim to fame is that he had a successful start-up is still in the running.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
5. He met the criteria
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:13 PM
Aug 2019

He has the polling numbers and the donation threshold.

Calling something garbage when the rules are clearly established and communicated is ridiculous. Reminds me of Sanders supporters whining about state primary contest rules in 2016.

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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
6. He's rich enough that he could spend money for lots of online ads to get the dollar donors.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

That doesn't mean he's qualified to be President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
7. Tom Steyer isn't on the debate stage and he is certainly richer
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:20 PM
Aug 2019

I don't necessarily buy into Yang's ideas but he has a following. The people who didn't make the debate stage have less of a following.

It is a mixture of polling data and fundraising strength. I think it is fair.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
8. Steyer started MUCH later (July 2019) than Yang (Nov. 2017)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:39 PM
Aug 2019

Yang wouldn't have gotten all those donors if he couldn't buy the ads.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
9. Everyone has a strength and a weakness
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:53 PM
Aug 2019

A Senator from NY or California has a fundraising advantage than a Governor of Montana based on the fact they have an existing donor list and it requires more funds to run that race.

Beto had a huge advantage because he had a donor list from a nationally covered race he lost.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. Yang doesn't spend much on ads; his "gang" makes memes for free
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:25 AM
Aug 2019

I'm not a big Yang fan but he's definitely tapped into something

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Bingo. Everyone KNEW the rules coming in. nt
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:39 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
11. Right. But the current rules advantage rich people with no proven ability in government
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:02 AM
Aug 2019

over progressives like Bennett or Inslee who have been doing a good job in smaller states with smaller donor bases.

Just because they are the rules doesn't mean they are good rules.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. Campaigns are pulling money from all over the country.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:22 AM
Aug 2019

Yang's call for GI is intriguing and is likely getting him more attention than Bennett or Inslee, when Inslee was in the race. I honestly have not heard one trademark policy proposal coming from Bennett and unfortunately, today, people care more about finding the money to pay rent or the Mortage than they do about a more complex issue like climate change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
13. Yeah, who cares that we have ten years to prevent the cascade of events toward
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:34 AM
Aug 2019

the end of human life on the planet? No biggie.

We can always do what Yang first proposed -- just sell our homes on the coasts and move inland!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. Climate change and it's outcomes is not obvious to some people,
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:47 AM
Aug 2019

and republicans and most big business seem determined to muddy that water even more. But whether a person has money for the rent or Mortage is a clear and present issue to even an idiot. In my state of Florida, more and more, the people buying coastal homes with a sea view are welloff, many of those homes are in the millions of dollars, it is almost impossible to buy a $400,000 coastal townhouse or condo with a view here now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
22. This is a good idea and I am not for Yang...no way given political realities that we will be able
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:26 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:46 PM - Edit history (2)

fix this in 10 years no matter who wins the presidency or the even if we take the Senate...we can start...with green energy jobs for the rust belt and the south...tie it in with jobs. But it wont be done quicly....face facts. I was listening to Al Sharpton's radio program and some of his callers do not believe in climate change or if they do that we can fix it...these are Democrats. Hysteria over this or any issue won't help us...one thing for sure if we don't win the presidency...it will be worsend by the GOP.

On edit I wanted to make sure you understand...that I was not calling you hysteria...but speaking generally.

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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
25. I am not saying we can fix it in 10 years. We have to make a major turn in 10 years that will
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:22 PM
Aug 2019

require a huge effort.

But Yang was saying it's too late and people on the coasts should just sell and move inland. That's not a solution, which he apparently recognizes now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
27. You can't make a huge effort if the political will isn't there...all you do is elect Republicans who
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:47 PM
Aug 2019

will make it worse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
28. Great leaders LEAD. They don't just follow public opinion polls.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:55 PM
Aug 2019

If we had been smart enough to schedule a debate devoted to climate change,we would have demonstrated, as a party, our understanding of how critical this issue was. We gave up the opportunity.

The Town Hall will be missing the most important voice, Jay Inslee, who wrote a book on the crisis ten years ago.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. I can tell you what Yang is running on. I can't tell you what Bennett is running on
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:26 AM
Aug 2019

And that's probably the big difference in their traction

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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
20. That's also because Yang has been running since November 2017.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 09:36 AM
Aug 2019

Although as recently as the first debate his climate change plan was to have everybody on the coasts sell their property (not clear who would want to buy it though.) So that wasn't exactly well thought out, despite all the time he'd had to get a plan together.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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DrToast

(6,414 posts)
24. What's the alternative?
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:16 PM
Aug 2019

There has to be some way to narrow the field. And the bar for making the debate is pretty low.

I can understand the frustration, but if there is a better way, I’m open to hearing about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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still_one

(92,189 posts)
4. Good. That is enough candidates
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:25 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
15. Can a Candidate qualify for a later debate if they do not qualify for the September Debate? n/t
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:04 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
16. I think I heard that they could, and that the standard for October was the same as September. n/t
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:17 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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MarcA

(2,195 posts)
29. Thank you for the answer. n/t
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 11:28 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. Yes
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:27 AM
Aug 2019

It's possible that the October debate will be larger than the September debates. Realistically this is probably going to cull a lot of the struggling campaigns, though. I imagine Gravel will probably keep going...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
30. Wow. This could make for all kinds of bizarre scenarios. n/t
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 11:30 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
23. If you are not in the top three...than you should leave the race. We don't need so many candidates.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:10 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bloom

(11,635 posts)
21. It's good to have the field getting winnowed down nt
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:55 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
26. two old white dudes
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:41 PM
Aug 2019

Not that there is anything wrong with that but my guess come Novemeber an increasingly diverse nation of 350 million people will see two white guys over 70 giving us a choice for our future. I can see the milinionals fired up at the site

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