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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:07 PM Aug 2019

22 yr old who saw Biden, Harris, Booker & Sanders in SC: Biden "was the most genuine candidate"

https://www.middletownpress.com/news/article/Biden-confounds-critics-as-fans-welcome-hugs-and-14402283.php


"What I see in that is he can go on and on because he's so passionate," said John Moore, a 22-year-old from Hendersonville, North Carolina. "The reason he can talk so long about ending gun violence is because in the 1990s, he actually passed legislation that banned assault weapons."

Moore was referring to the controversial 1994 crime bill, which Biden wrote and which also included a 10-year ban on assault weapons.

Moore, who has come to South Carolina to see Biden as well as other 2020 Democrats such as Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Bernie Sanders, said he was most impressed with Biden.

"Their answers were a lot shorter than his," he said. "They were mostly talking points. He was the most genuine candidate that I've seen out of all of them."
If I were to vote in a presidential
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22 yr old who saw Biden, Harris, Booker & Sanders in SC: Biden "was the most genuine candidate" (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2019 OP
Joe's the real deal. People realize this... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #1
I find it hard to believe what he says as applied to marybourg Aug 2019 #2
The article barely mentions Elizabeth Warren cannabis_flower Aug 2019 #5
The article did not mention True Blue American Sep 2019 #29
Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Aug 2019 #3
Yes, and just IMHO his genuine nature is the driving force, of course along with experience, Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #26
A reporter describing an interview with both white and AA 20 somethings: "He's the cool grandpa" hlthe2b Aug 2019 #4
Yes, he's cool. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #7
+1 hlthe2b Aug 2019 #8
.. Cha Aug 2019 #18
OMG... thx for posting! Love the Biden Dreyfus clip Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #28
Love that! True Blue American Sep 2019 #30
Plus a thousand Hekate Sep 2019 #31
Biden is WYSIWYG NYMinute Aug 2019 #6
+1, uponit7771 Sep 2019 #25
No question, Joe is not rehearsed. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #32
lmao NYMinute Sep 2019 #33
"He was the most genuine candidate that I've seen out of all of them." peggysue2 Aug 2019 #9
+1000 Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #11
Agree completely. And Biden's smile is the very definition of a winning smile. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #13
Awhhh... indeed Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #27
Just glad it's none of my grandsons admiring "genuineness" Hortensis Aug 2019 #10
There's no reason to believe that young man isn't familiar with the candidates' records & positions. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #12
:) He's 22 and gets big points from Grandma for attending this event. Hortensis Aug 2019 #16
+1000 StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #24
My son is 25 Andy823 Aug 2019 #14
You should be proud of him. He sounds very bright and thoughtful. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #15
I am very proud of him Andy823 Aug 2019 #21
I would be too. Got his head on straight, Hortensis Aug 2019 #17
Thank you. nt Andy823 Aug 2019 #22
K&R Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #19
Yep! He's the Real Deal. nt Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #20
... Scurrilous Aug 2019 #23
I had no idea who John Moore is. GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #34
I would ask John Moore, if he's sure Biden can end gun violence aikoaiko Sep 2019 #35
Joe is the real deal Gothmog Sep 2019 #36
Clearly. nt oasis Sep 2019 #37
Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show Gothmog Sep 2019 #38
Thank you, Goth! Cha Sep 2019 #40
KICK! Cha Sep 2019 #39
Joe Biden is the party's strongest candidate Gothmog Sep 2019 #41
Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery Gothmog Sep 2019 #42
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
1. Joe's the real deal. People realize this...
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:10 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
2. I find it hard to believe what he says as applied to
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:16 PM
Aug 2019

Elisabeth Warren. Short answers? Just talking points?

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cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
5. The article barely mentions Elizabeth Warren
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:42 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe he didn't get to see her. I do believe you are right I don't think it applies to her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
29. The article did not mention
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 04:22 AM
Sep 2019

Warren. It specifically mentioned Harris and Booker. Those are the 2 who have attacked Biden.

Not sure what Harris was thinking when he gave her preplanned attack on Biden with T- Shirts already made up. She has gon down hill.

Then you have Swalwell telling Joe to step aside for the younger generation. He is gone. A man I really admired, finished for me that day.

Of course there are times we need a younger Leader. This time we need experience to clean up the Trump/ McConnell mess. I think Biden and Warren have that experience and could work well together. Neither one of them are attacking other Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,185 posts)
3. Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:20 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,762 posts)
26. Yes, and just IMHO his genuine nature is the driving force, of course along with experience,
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:54 AM
Sep 2019

voting record and the ability to unite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
4. A reporter describing an interview with both white and AA 20 somethings: "He's the cool grandpa"
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:23 PM
Aug 2019

So much for our younger voters excluding him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,762 posts)
28. OMG... thx for posting! Love the Biden Dreyfus clip
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 01:06 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
6. Biden is WYSIWYG
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:17 PM
Aug 2019

Others appear rehearsed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
32. No question, Joe is not rehearsed.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:42 AM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
9. "He was the most genuine candidate that I've seen out of all of them."
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:05 PM
Aug 2019

And that is a Joe Biden strength--authentic, passionate and empathetic. Add that to experienced, knowledgeable and genuinely decent, you have a winning combo. Throw in that big Irish grin for the win!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
13. Agree completely. And Biden's smile is the very definition of a winning smile.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:23 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Just glad it's none of my grandsons admiring "genuineness"
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:15 PM
Aug 2019

in a candidate whose genuine record they aren't familiar with. I hope they already understand we don't choose based on the most appealing performance with no idea if the candidate's past validates the promises or raises serious questions.

If this one was one of mine, though, I'd ask him to read up on the candidates and start by identifying who they thought was the least "genuine" and trustworthy one, a lesson worth learning and probably memorable...

That said, , no surprise this enthusiastic guy liked Biden. Biden isn't just very experienced in how to appear genuine, he is. Gets himself in trouble because he doesn't stick to reciting talking points, but it's genuine Biden. Wish I could say as much for Harris and Booker, but they've both disappointed me in ways they've tried to get attention and break out of the pack. Nothing dreadful and forgivable if they eventually steady and do better, but "genuine" is not the word for it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
12. There's no reason to believe that young man isn't familiar with the candidates' records & positions.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:19 PM
Aug 2019

Nothing in the article to suggest he's ignorant and just going on first impressons when seeing the candidates in person.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. :) He's 22 and gets big points from Grandma for attending this event.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:20 PM
Aug 2019

How's that?

But language and subject choices are very revealing and I really can know. "Genuine" is one of those hackneyed know-nothing words about appearance used by unsophisticated people who notice appearance because they don't know or care enough to be distracted to the substance good candidates are working so hard to get across, and bad ones get away with lying about election after election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
24. +1000
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:44 PM
Aug 2019

Thank you for saying this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
14. My son is 25
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:27 PM
Aug 2019

We went on a road trip the other day, and politics came up. He really likes Warren, but said he was OK with Harris as well. We discussed most of the candidates, and agreed most them were pretty good also, and that the top tier right now could "all" beat trump". He also made the comment that any of our candidates would work for him because the thing that really matters is we don't get trump back in office.

I am very proud of him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
15. You should be proud of him. He sounds very bright and thoughtful.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:40 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
21. I am very proud of him
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 07:35 PM
Aug 2019

Thank you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. I would be too. Got his head on straight,
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:22 PM
Aug 2019

morals kept where he can get at them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
20. Yep! He's the Real Deal. nt
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:05 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GeorgeGist

(25,320 posts)
34. I had no idea who John Moore is.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 04:51 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
35. I would ask John Moore, if he's sure Biden can end gun violence
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:27 AM
Sep 2019


And his proof is that Biden was instrumental in banning Assault Weapons, why did gun violence end then? Or why could you still buy AR15s during the ban?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,185 posts)
38. Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:15 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
40. Thank you, Goth!
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 05:25 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,185 posts)
41. Joe Biden is the party's strongest candidate
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:53 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,185 posts)
42. Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:14 PM
Sep 2019



Biden shows reverence for the most popular Democrat around, former president Barack Obama; others find fault in everything from the Affordable Care Act to immigration policy. Biden does not bombard voters with a torrent of multi-part plans; he gives them a few basic positions and defends them. Biden does not campaign from the neck up; he campaigns with his heart on his sleeve. Biden is deeply optimistic; his opponents think Americans are the problem, not Trump. (I don’t suggest that his opponents are wrong, merely that their stance apparently isn’t as popular as they thought.) Biden wants normalcy plus reform; his opponents want a peaceful revolution. Biden knows people want to be heard and seen; his opponents (with the exception of Sen. Kamala D. Harris) don’t fully grasp this. They want to “help," to pepper people with ideas and a to-do list, while Biden takes the time to listen to them. (Think of the well-meaning friend who has a thousand suggestions when you are grieving and you’d rather they just shut up and commiserate.)

This is the grouchy-white-guy-in-the-diner problem all over again. Reporters are blinded by their own age, background, education and geography. Instead of going to West Virginia diners to find the Trump voter, reporters should go talk to the residents of The Villages in Florida, the African American churchgoing ladies and the buttoned-down professionals in the affluent suburbs (the Romney-Clinton voters). These people have endured a noisy, offensive and intrusive presence in the White House. They don’t necessarily want a different noisy, intrusive presence — even one they agree with on substance.

Part of the “mystery” of Biden’s appeal would be solved if the moderators flipped their questions, as one smart Democrat not in the Biden camp put it. Instead of asking Biden or another moderate, “Why aren’t you going with the big, bold idea of Medicare-for-all?,” the moderators might consider asking Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), “Why blow up Obamacare, and why don’t you trust people to choose Medicare if given the option?” Instead of assuming that extreme proposals are the standard, requiring the moderates to explain why they are such wet blankets, the moderators should press the super-progressives on questions such as: What makes you think that voters want to go through another health-care makeover? Why should poorer people pay for richer people’s health care or subsidize their college debt?

Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
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