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JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts) Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:43 PM Sep 2019

Biden defends campaign fundraiser with natural gas investor

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-defends-campaign-fundraiser-with-natural-gas-investor/2019/09/04/3089090e-cf8d-11e9-a620-0a91656d7db6_story.html|

By Bill Barrow and Elana Schor | APSeptember 4 at 11:28 PM

WASHINGTON — Joe Biden is defending himself against criticism that the co-founder of a liquefied natural gas firm is hosting a fundraiser for him despite his pledge not to accept fossil fuel money for his 2020 presidential bid.

The former vice president said Wednesday during a CNN climate town hall series that he’s not violating his pledge because Andrew Goldman “is not a fossil fuel executive” according to certain corporate filings.

“He’s not listed as one of those executives. That’s what we look at,” Biden said after being asked about the fundraiser by a supporter of rival Bernie Sanders. “I’ve kept that pledge. Period.”

Some environmental leaders, including several who pushed Democratic candidates to refuse fossil fuel money, say Goldman’s involvement in Thursday’s fundraiser still violates the spirit of Biden’s commitment.

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Biden defends campaign fundraiser with natural gas investor (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 OP

Oh. He's just one of the owners of the company. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #1

No he isn't. But remember, a stockholder in any company is an "owner" of the company.... George II Sep 2019 #3

DEFENDING myohmy2 Sep 2019 #2

Co-founder, years ago. So what's your point? George II Sep 2019 #4

Joe... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #8

That's because others don't have anything so they keep attacking him. Right? George II Sep 2019 #9

trump... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #11

Not to worry, Joe's not getting the nomination... Bernie & Elizabeth will see to that!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #14

phew... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #16

hahaha!! Glad to hear!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #17

Glenn Greenwald's The Intercept produced the original slant on that story. pnwmom Sep 2019 #12

Three OPs bashing Biden in less than a half hour. What's up with that? George II Sep 2019 #5

Primary. JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #6

Tertiary. George II Sep 2019 #7

It's called "vetting" under the "Bernie standard"... what are people afraid of?! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #15

It's called "heavy vetting" Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #18

hahaha!! Good one HBS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #23

when your man is number 2, or is that number 3... nt msongs Sep 2019 #10

This sort of pedantic parsing is what turns people off of "establishment" candidates, no matter RockRaven Sep 2019 #13

The parsing is getting old and needs to stop. We need someone who gives us straight talk... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #24

, Anderson Cooper clarified that Andrew Goldman is in fact NOT a fossil fuel exec. Gothmog Sep 2019 #19

Well whaddaya know! George II Sep 2019 #22

The facts are important Gothmog Sep 2019 #25

This is troubling for Bernie. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #20

Especially since he probably has investments in fossil fuels and natural gas too... George II Sep 2019 #21

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)

1. Oh. He's just one of the owners of the company.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:45 PM

Sep 2019

Can’t argue with that logic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

3. No he isn't. But remember, a stockholder in any company is an "owner" of the company....

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:49 PM

Sep 2019

Remember, Senator Sanders has more than $1M invested in (unspecified) stocks, i.e. companies. So exactly in what companies is he an owner?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)

2. DEFENDING

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:49 PM

Sep 2019

" WASHINGTON — Joe Biden is defending himself against criticism that the co-founder of a liquefied natural gas firm is hosting a fundraiser for him despite his pledge not to accept fossil fuel money for his 2020 presidential bid. "

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

4. Co-founder, years ago. So what's your point?

Reply to myohmy2 (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:50 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)

8. Joe...

Reply to George II (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:54 PM

Sep 2019

...always seems to be DEFENDING...

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

9. That's because others don't have anything so they keep attacking him. Right?

Reply to myohmy2 (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:55 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)

11. trump...

Reply to George II (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:04 AM

Sep 2019

...won't have anything on Joe either...

...trump will be attacking with ten tweets a day trying to make Joe dance...

...sounds like a recipe for perpetual distraction...

...sorry...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

14. Not to worry, Joe's not getting the nomination... Bernie & Elizabeth will see to that!!

Reply to myohmy2 (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:15 AM

Sep 2019

They will make a formidable team!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)

16. phew...

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:20 AM

Sep 2019

...it did have me worried...

...thanks, I'm feeling much better...

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

17. hahaha!! Glad to hear!!

Reply to myohmy2 (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)

12. Glenn Greenwald's The Intercept produced the original slant on that story.

Reply to myohmy2 (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:04 AM

Sep 2019

Anytime a story originates in The Intercept, it should be treated with skepticism. And their slant is that owning some stock is the same as being an Executive in a company, and that's not true.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

5. Three OPs bashing Biden in less than a half hour. What's up with that?

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:52 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)

6. Primary.

Reply to George II (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:53 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

7. Tertiary.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:54 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

15. It's called "vetting" under the "Bernie standard"... what are people afraid of?!

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:17 AM

Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)

18. It's called "heavy vetting"

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:32 AM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)

23. hahaha!! Good one HBS!!

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 08:52 AM

Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

msongs

(67,405 posts)

10. when your man is number 2, or is that number 3... nt

Reply to George II (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:56 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)

13. This sort of pedantic parsing is what turns people off of "establishment" candidates, no matter

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:04 AM

Sep 2019

how correct his parsing of the language might be.

I know campaigns need money, and virtually nobody can run a national campaign without making compromises, but campaigns and candidates need to be prepared to field questions about issues like this with better answers than what Biden et al came up with here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided