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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
A good article in of all places: The Intercept (re: Biden)
https://theintercept.com/2019/05/10/rumors-joe-biden-scandal-ukraine-absolute-nonsense-reformer-says/THis is from May.
A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But It Is Not True.
In an interview with The Intercept, Daria Kaleniuk, an American-educated lawyer who founded Ukraines Anti-Corruption Action Center, expressed frustration that two recent front-page stories in the New York Times, on how the conspiracy theory is being used to attack Biden, failed to properly debunk the false accusation. According to Kaleniuk, and a former anti-corruption prosecutor, there is simply no truth to the rumor now spreading like wildfire across the internet.
The accusation is that Biden blackmailed Ukraines new leaders into firing the countrys chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, to derail an investigation he was leading into a Ukrainian gas company that the vice presidents son, Hunter, was paid to advise.
The truth, Kaleniuk said, is that Shokin was forced from office at Bidens urging because he had failed to conduct thorough investigations of corruption, and had stifled efforts to investigate embezzlement and misconduct by public officials following the 2014 uprising.
Properly debunking this particular conspiracy theory is easier said than done, though, since it is set in Ukraine, a country with byzantine political intrigue at the best of times, and these are not the best of times. The rivalries between political factions in Kiev are so intense that even the countrys new anti-corruption agencies are at each others throats.
The accusation is that Biden blackmailed Ukraines new leaders into firing the countrys chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, to derail an investigation he was leading into a Ukrainian gas company that the vice presidents son, Hunter, was paid to advise.
The truth, Kaleniuk said, is that Shokin was forced from office at Bidens urging because he had failed to conduct thorough investigations of corruption, and had stifled efforts to investigate embezzlement and misconduct by public officials following the 2014 uprising.
Properly debunking this particular conspiracy theory is easier said than done, though, since it is set in Ukraine, a country with byzantine political intrigue at the best of times, and these are not the best of times. The rivalries between political factions in Kiev are so intense that even the countrys new anti-corruption agencies are at each others throats.
The rest at the link
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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A good article in of all places: The Intercept (re: Biden) (Original Post)
OKNancy
Sep 2019
OP
You know I read that too, but decided not to post it since it's not seen as reliable. At least here
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#2
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)1. Now I remember the NYTimes article referenced in the article
by Ken Vogel. It was roundly criticized.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)2. You know I read that too, but decided not to post it since it's not seen as reliable. At least here
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)4. Not so much as not reliable, but extremely biased
Far left in outlook
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)8. Oh..well thx...didn't know that
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(131,102 posts)3. Thanks
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)5. I recall coming across this information before--that it was the prosecutor whose behavior was
suspect, not Biden or his son, and thus Biden had urged his removal. Just another false narrative
about Biden that people who want to will believe.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)6. There are two sides to every story....
One side is what Fox News reports and the other side is the truth.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)7. Thank you!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,497 posts)9. did not see you had already posted this
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden