Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumIf Biden is nominated, and all things are equal. Biden will win.
....Now, we are talking about a nomination more than a year away. Providing that Biden is healthy in the summer 16 months from now, and he desires to run for the Presidency at that time, and Biden is nominated by us, ..(yes, lots of events can interfere with that desire) then he will win. This assumes Trump is still in there, and he is at the same level of support that he is now. If Pence is in there, then I still think Biden will win.
..The single most important event is that we win the 2020 election. And we gain control of the Senate as well as the House. No matter what happens in the Senate or House, Biden will defeat Trump.
...The future could be anything. But if all things remain similar to now, Biden vs Trump. Biden will win hands down..no discussion and no worry about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,183 posts)but a lot can happen between now and then
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stuart G
(38,420 posts)We must win to save this country. We must win to reverse the hate and fear that Trump sends out. We must win to return this country to "normalcy" We must win to reverse those pieces of legislation that Trump drove through to hurt the U.S.A. We must win..So I ask. Which current political figure has the very best chance to beat Trump?
...Now we don't know what 2020 will bring. No one knows. It is the future. Still we must win. Biden if healthy and he desires to run, will win if he is nominated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,183 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,949 posts)President but he has tried running for President before. It didn't go well.
We all love to love him, but he does have baggage. All of it will come out if he is nominated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)I don't think he can cut down Dipshit with a snappy comeback. I hope he proves me wrong. He seems to be a very thoughtful kind person who cares about the middle class and the poor.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
saljr1
(273 posts)I wish MSM would stop with the poll numbers. They mean absolutely nothing as this time. When a few debates are over we will start to get a more clearer picture of the top tier candidates, but till then polls mean shit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)I will vote for whoever wins. I do not want to see a primary where any candidate cuts down the others... candidates... state your positions, get as many votes for yourself as you can, when the convention comes, throw your support to whoever has the lead or is in second (if not you).
whoever in the nominee gets my money and my vote and as many others as I can drive the polls or contact with door to door visits, online posts, etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PADemD
(4,482 posts)William Weld, the former Republican governor of Massachusetts who was the Libertarian Party's nominee for vice president in 2016, is mulling a run for president and could make an announcement about a possible presidential run in the next few weeks.
Sources tell NewsCenter 5 he notified his law firm that he will be taking leave of absence and it is unclear whether he is announcing the run or announcing the formation of an exploratory committee.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wcvb.com/amp/article/former-mass-gov-william-weld-to-announce-possible-run-for-president/26092546
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
handmade34
(22,756 posts)although I truly believe that it is a mistake to only focus on Trump as the opposition... I believe there is a chance that the R candidate will be someone rather than T?????
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,156 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)Pray that RBG holds on, other Liberals on the court also have good health, and Biden wins.
Its all about SCOTUS!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)And if our people show up, we win. I ultimately think that the aversion to Trump will ultimately drive people to the polls, but I'm not 100% sure our base is going to be all that enthusiastic about another old white dude, especially when women (particularly women of color) carried us in 2018. And I say that as a white guy myself.
That doesn't mean Biden can't win, and I'd be proud to support him in the general (and I'm not ruling him out in the primary), but I'm not so sure he's a lock for anything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I do want to win in 2020, but think there are others who can do that too. It will be clear around this time next year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,156 posts)Link to tweet
As for Sanders, he benefits this time around from 100 percent name identification. However, the flip side of 100 percent name ID is that hes no longer new, no longer saying things no one else will. Hes just as much of a democratic socialist as he was in 2016, but in the space of a few days weve seen that the energy isnt all on the left; its drifting toward a centrist, young, optimistic candidate. Voters follow the energy and the ethos. They dont carry around a thermometer gauging where on the scale of ideological purity each candidate rates.....
All you need to be is progressive enough to win a Democratic primary. Seeming more moderate than the Sanders clan is an advantage in the general election.
Why are pundits, the media and party insiders so convinced that ideological extremism equals energy/success? Part of it may be wishful thinking for progressives. However, part of the difficulty is linguistic. "Moderate sounds to many ears to mean mild-mannered, prone to compromise and wishy-washy in beliefs. Nonsense. If ever there was a radical moderate, a fervent centrist Democrat, its ORourke. And gosh, hes showing that can be exciting.
Biden being a sane moderate is a good thing
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BooScout
(10,406 posts)We've seen Trump elected and a Brexit nightmare come to fruition.
I'm taking nothing at face value and nothing for granted...there's an incredible number of stupid people out there able to vote...and vote badly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden