Elizabeth Warren has one important advantage over Bernie

[RandySF]

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She's comfortable discussing a wider range of issues such as foreign policy and racial inequality.

[we can do it]

1. And she's actually a Democrat.

[onit2day]

16. Do they have to show the long form Democrat Certificate cause Bernie's got one

[John Fante]

22. Of course he does, he just printed it out.

If and when Bernie's campaign ends in defeat, he'll take the same certificate and make confetti out of it.

[MoonRiver]

42. ...

[lapucelle]

32. Tax returns would be helpful.

Elizabeth has posted hers online.

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/08/22/warren-posts-10-years-of-her-tax-returns-online

[we can do it]

38. Like the one he trashed last time?

[EveHammond13]

19. +1 heart, soul, in the letter and the spirit

[pnwmom]

2. Yes. She does seem to have a wider grasp of the issues -- she's not so hyper focused

on money and class that she sees everything through that prism.

[Omaha Steve]

3. K&R!

[Cha]

4. It's a Huge Advantage.

Link to tweet

[JI7]

6. but many of his supporters see that as a negative

[rusty quoin]

18. I don't know those supporters but I do like them both.

The both of them are the real deal. I wanted Warren to do well this time, but I guess something is missing with most voters.

I always went with the person who was a wonk over personality. Do you remember Paul Tsongas? I was a fan. The same was with Walter Mondale. Whoever wins the primary vote has my vote, just like always.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. And she's already released 10 years of her tax returns.

It doesn't seem to have been all that difficult.

[Buzz cook]

8. Not fair

She was only able to do that because her tax returns wern't full of bullshit.

[Stellar]

34. Even so, I'd vote for her to be President...

because she's brilliant. Something that the current occupent in the Whitehouse is not.

[MrsCoffee]

45. Do you mean especially so?

Because quickly releasing her taxes because they aren’t full of bullshit needing editing is a good thing, not something that needs to be overlooked, as in “even so”.

[Buzz cook]

47. I should have used an emoji nt

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[onit2day]

15. Really, I mean really?

[MrsCoffee]

33. Yes really.

Transparency is important. Not to mention credibility. Dragging it out for years makes it hard to take him seriously.

Bernie has some pretty lame excuses for some big issues within his campaign

[we can do it]

39. Like not addressing sexual harassment?

[MrsCoffee]

44. Absolutely.

I’m supposed to believe he is just too busy to deal with these things. Unless of course there is a Russian sanctions vote coming up. Then he might just find the time to be somewhere more important.

[BannonsLiver]

9. She was wonderful tonight.

[Gumboot]

10. They're both great candidates.

I'd be overjoyed to see either one (or both) taking the fight to Trump next year.

Onward!

[rwsanders]

12. You missed the point, this was supposed to be a bash Bernie party.

[emulatorloo]

23. It's about Bernie's record vs Elizabeth's record

That’s not “bashing”

Bernie is a strong guy, he can certainly defend himself. Not sure why you think he is too fragile to stand up to scrutiny, That is not my impression of Senator Sanders at all.

[rwsanders]

25. Cute.

Sounded more like an unsubstantiated opinion that opened the door to more ad hominem attacks.
But whatever provides cover, I won't tell.

[emulatorloo]

26. So you think Sanders is fragile? I'm a Bernie supporter from 2016. I know better.

He has convictions and he is tough. You seriously underestimate Senator Sanders. He isn’t as weak as you imagine. He’s not afraid and can certainly handle comparisons to Warren.

He’s not my first choice this time but I find your doubt in him seriously misplaced.

Don’t try to make me the bad guy because you have no faith in Bernie’s strength and toughness. That’s on you.

[rwsanders]

48. Sorry, I thought the Bernie supporters would detect the sarcasm.

Did you read the first post I made in that discussion?

[Catch2.2]

31. Yup

This site seems to love to bash Bernie. Especially with the "He's not a Democrat". Bernie is more of a Democrat than some Democrats. Personally, I'm more concerned on their policies/issues as opposed to if they have a "D" next to their name or not.




on a side note, a Warren/Sanders ticket would be awesome!

[rwsanders]

49. That's the distinction that so many miss. I don't care WHO is carrying the flag, it is the issues

that are important. And any objective analysis puts the democratic party as it stands today closer to Reagan than FDR. Heck I watched part of the '92 debate with Ross Perot and he sounds like the screaming socialist in today's context.

[Catch2.2]

51. I agree

The reason I like Bernie is because of the issues. The vast majority of criticism of him has nothing to do with the issues.

[rwsanders]

52. Check this one out

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128735271

It will stay, but if it was about Beto or Hillary... well you know.

[Catch2.2]

55. Sigh...

yup

[Hassler]

11. Warren has a talent for speaking like a real person who can

Explain ideas in concrete ways--her 50/30/20 family budgeting, for one example. Don't know if she'll be my first choice, but she's up there.

One thing I'm looking for is which Dem will be most organized and relentless in dealing with the shit Cheetolini pulls in 2020, all while being positive and inspiring--the antithesis of Chump.

[Pepsidog]

13. I love Warren but electibility must be a primary consideration.

[John Fante]

24. Whoever manages to win this nomination

will be more than electable. The lineup is bru-tal.

[emulatorloo]

29. Yep. +1

[Pepsidog]

46. Indeed Dems have a wealth of talent. My son is home from medical school and we watched The Ides

Of March, a political drama with George Clooney as Dem candidate and Ryan Gosling, Philip Seymour Hersch etc. I think the movie was from 2011 and Clooney who is the Democratic presidential candidate gives a speech in which he calls out the Republican Party for their fear mongering by labeling Dems as socialists. I pointed out to my kids, who are sick of hearing me talk about Republicans, that Republicans offer nothing but fear. The same old BS about socialism, immigrants, guns and abortion. It was gratifying to hear somebody else say it, in this case George Clooney.

[onit2day]

14. They'd make a good pair for Pres and VP

[sandensea]

17. +1

But would Wall Street allow it?

[dlk]

20. Warren Has the Most Comprehensive Knowledge Base and Experience with Economic and Financial Issues

She tops the list of all the candidates in this department.

[emulatorloo]

21. She has many advantages over Bernie. She can write solid policy proposals

He can’t seem to get beyond sloganeering and press releases.

I am glad both are running but to be honest Bernie seems irrelevant since Warren announced

Bernie very good for Vermont in the Senate.

[lunamagica]

28. I agree, but that is just one of her advantages over him

[LuckyStrykes]

30. She was good tonight

Easy to follow, clear, and she came with substance. I think we have good field.

[Fresh_Start]

35. plus she can create plans instead of dreams nt

nt

[Mr Tibbs]

36. Either is fine with me

Both is even better

[TreasonousBastard]

37. I'm always impressed with her knowledge and ability to come up with serious...

and practical proposals.

[ProfessorPlum]

40. she is the real deal

I love her, and even more so since reading her book. Her passion for how regular people continue to get screwed by the financial industry is real and comes through loud and clear. As does her expertise and smarts.

Underneath her school marmish exterior is a core of steel and a real sense of passion and justice. We'd be lucky to have her as the nominee.

[NurseJackie]

41. Any candidate with just one speech is at a disadvantage in this year's primary.

[Renew Deal]

43. They will be good surrogates for the nominee

[Skidmore]

50. K&R

[NurseJackie]

53. She's honest. She has integrity. She has more than one speech.

Much to like and admire about Senator Warren.

[Garrett78]

54. The problem is they're viewed as very similar and Sanders has a larger following and more money.

I like Warren but I don't see her getting very far. She's not very charismatic and I doubt she'll win what is for her a crucial state, New Hampshire. If she were to finish 3rd or 4th (or worse) in New Hampshire, she may drop out.