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Katalino

(32 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:16 PM Nov 2019

Anti-Biden magazine The Nation: "No smoking gun" on impeachment. Dems on "cold war mentality"

This is from an article just three days ago, folks, by Aaron Mate. So you can have all idea of what kind of publicaron this is, which today announced it is anti-endorsing Joe Biden:

https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-impeachment-cold-war/


The available testimony does not strike me as being as damning for Trump as it is being portrayed.

...
This impeachment thing isn't a good idea, because food stamps:
The day after the House impeachment vote also coincided with the end of the comment period for a Trump administration plan to cut food programs for low-income Americans. According to government estimates, around 3 million recipients face the loss of food stamp benefits and close to 1 million children are at risk of losing automatic placement in federal school lunch programs.


About the three people who delivered testimony incriminating Trump, Mate says they're not credible because they opposed Trump's foreign policy:

Given their open dedication to ensuring the continuation of US military aid to Ukraine, it is reasonable to question if the trio’s interpretations of decisions and conversations about freezing military aid were colored by their own policy preferences. As The Washington Post put it, Vindman “told lawmakers that he was deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy.” While undoubtedly many Democrats and Republicans share Vindman’s foreign policy views, it should be up to the president, not unelected bureaucrats, to decide US foreign policy.

Also, Trump should not be impeached because he's trying to take away food stamps:


Here's Aaron Mate on RT:


The same author (on October 28 this year) called for the investigators of Russia interference to be investigated:
https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-brennan/
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Anti-Biden magazine The Nation: "No smoking gun" on impeachment. Dems on "cold war mentality" (Original Post) Katalino Nov 2019 OP
Ok, but why in the Primaries Forum? JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #1
A newcomer at DU. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #3
My longevity of lack thereof isn't what bothers you Katalino Nov 2019 #7
I am undecided. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #10
Because it sheds light on a magazine that today "anti-endorsed" Joe Biden Katalino Nov 2019 #4
Interesting. JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #9
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #2
That made no sense Katalino Nov 2019 #5
So is any magazine that does not support Biden an anti-Biden magazine? guillaumeb Nov 2019 #8
If it spreads pro-Russia fake news (Russia didn't Hack the DNC), yes Katalino Nov 2019 #11
I have read the Nation for many years. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #12
This is Definitely Anti-Biden coming from this mag.. Cha Nov 2019 #13
Understandable, given that he is polling near the top at DU. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #16
your right evertonfc Nov 2019 #6
Aaron Mate is a nutjob, and the Nation shouldn't publish him. DanTex Nov 2019 #14
The Nation has a pro Russia slant. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #15
Good for you! The Nation Cha Nov 2019 #17
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,707 posts)
1. Ok, but why in the Primaries Forum?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:18 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Katalino

(32 posts)
7. My longevity of lack thereof isn't what bothers you
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:23 PM
Nov 2019

The exposure of the magazine that is against a candidate you oppose is what bothers you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. I am undecided.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:25 PM
Nov 2019

As to your longevity, we all started here with 1 post.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Katalino

(32 posts)
4. Because it sheds light on a magazine that today "anti-endorsed" Joe Biden
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:20 PM
Nov 2019

If a pro-Russia magazine takes sides on the primary, it's primary news. Knowledge about the nature and motivations of this magazine is necessary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Welcome to DU.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:18 PM
Nov 2019

The Nation is not an "anti-Biden" magazine. It has been published for over 150 years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Katalino

(32 posts)
5. That made no sense
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:22 PM
Nov 2019

What kind of logic is, "Magazine X isn't against such individual because it was founded in the 19th century"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. So is any magazine that does not support Biden an anti-Biden magazine?
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:24 PM
Nov 2019

Or, is it possible that not everyone supports Biden as a first choice?

If you stay here, you will notice many candidate groups.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Katalino

(32 posts)
11. If it spreads pro-Russia fake news (Russia didn't Hack the DNC), yes
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:26 PM
Nov 2019

Agree?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. I have read the Nation for many years.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:28 PM
Nov 2019

And I read other magazines as well, but I do not agree with any source 100% of the time.

And as I said earlier, there are a number of Groups here devoted to one candidate or another. But looking at the survey bar above the primary post Group, most of us are undecided.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(299,045 posts)
13. This is Definitely Anti-Biden coming from this mag..
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:35 PM
Nov 2019
The Nation: Joe Biden: An Anti-Endorsement

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=338527

It didn't go over so well for the OP, though.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
16. Understandable, given that he is polling near the top at DU.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:51 PM
Nov 2019

And we generally all have strong opinions as to who would be the best candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
6. your right
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:23 PM
Nov 2019

it's not anti Biden. It's pro shit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
14. Aaron Mate is a nutjob, and the Nation shouldn't publish him.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 10:46 PM
Nov 2019

Overall the Nation is still a good publication.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,652 posts)
15. The Nation has a pro Russia slant.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:06 AM
Nov 2019

That’s what I told them when I canceled my subscription 3 years ago. I’ve been cheering for its demise ever since.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(299,045 posts)
17. Good for you! The Nation
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:01 PM
Nov 2019

is how I found DU in 2002.. they were great during the bush years and then they lost the plot, afaic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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