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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Stream the Town Hall on Immigration With Bernie in Nevada
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Stream the Town Hall on Immigration With Bernie in Nevada (Original Post)
Hassin Bin Sober
Nov 2019
OP
Ooopsie....."BERNIE SAYS IMMIGRATION THREATENS THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET. RESEARCH SHOWS OTHERWISE."
George II
Nov 2019
#2
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)1. Bernie sounds as strong and as smart as...
...usual!
Thanks for posting!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)2. Ooopsie....."BERNIE SAYS IMMIGRATION THREATENS THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET. RESEARCH SHOWS OTHERWISE."
BERNIE SAYS IMMIGRATION THREATENS THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET. RESEARCH SHOWS OTHERWISE.
The Vermont senator shares the same zero-sum mindset on immigration as his Republican counterparts, including Donald Trump.
JACK HERRERAUPDATED:MAY 8, 2019ORIGINAL:APR 11, 2019
LOTS more at the link...
https://psmag.com/news/bernie-says-immigration-threatens-the-social-safety-net-research-shows-otherwise
For the record:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/pacific-standard-magazine/
The Vermont senator shares the same zero-sum mindset on immigration as his Republican counterparts, including Donald Trump.
JACK HERRERAUPDATED:MAY 8, 2019ORIGINAL:APR 11, 2019
Since the beginning of April, President Donald Trump has centered on a new message as he attempts to raise alarm about immigration on the country's southern border: "Our country is FULL!" he tweeted on Sunday, repeating claims he made to Border Patrol agents in in Calexico, California, that Friday.
Though Trump's new messaging is likely more of an emotional appeal than a demographic argument, reporters quickly fact-checked the president's claim: the New York Times ran a data-heavy article explaining how, in many parts of the country, shrinking towns and industries actually need more people. (Trump's claim "runs counter to the consensus among demographers and economists. ... They see ample evidence of a country that is not remotely 'full,'" the Times reported.)
The question of whether the country is indeed full aside, Trump's underlying assumption that the country could become "full" is a claim some of his most vociferous opponents on the left seem to also believe. On the same day Trump tweeted, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders explained in an Iowa town hall why he's against open borders: Too many poor people would come to the United States, Sanders explained, and the country could not afford to pay for policies like universal health care or free college.
"If you open the borders, my God, there's a lot of poverty in this world, and you're going to have people from all over the world," Sanders said. "And I don't think that's something that we can do at this point. Can't do it."
Though Trump's new messaging is likely more of an emotional appeal than a demographic argument, reporters quickly fact-checked the president's claim: the New York Times ran a data-heavy article explaining how, in many parts of the country, shrinking towns and industries actually need more people. (Trump's claim "runs counter to the consensus among demographers and economists. ... They see ample evidence of a country that is not remotely 'full,'" the Times reported.)
The question of whether the country is indeed full aside, Trump's underlying assumption that the country could become "full" is a claim some of his most vociferous opponents on the left seem to also believe. On the same day Trump tweeted, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders explained in an Iowa town hall why he's against open borders: Too many poor people would come to the United States, Sanders explained, and the country could not afford to pay for policies like universal health care or free college.
"If you open the borders, my God, there's a lot of poverty in this world, and you're going to have people from all over the world," Sanders said. "And I don't think that's something that we can do at this point. Can't do it."
LOTS more at the link...
https://psmag.com/news/bernie-says-immigration-threatens-the-social-safety-net-research-shows-otherwise
For the record:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/pacific-standard-magazine/
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)3. You Just Can't Make This Stuff Up
"Too many poor People"...
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,187 posts)4. Interesting. Counting on people's short memories no doubt
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)5. I remember him saying this years ago.
"If you open the borders, my God, there's a lot of poverty in this world, and you're going to have people from all over the world," Sanders said. "And I don't think that's something that we can do at this point. Can't do it."
I think it was an interview with Lou...last name eludes me at the moment. Wait! Lou Dobbs!
Seems he hasn't changed his mind over the years other than a minute or two at his immigration rally only to launce into his regular stump speech.
I think it was an interview with Lou...last name eludes me at the moment. Wait! Lou Dobbs!
Seems he hasn't changed his mind over the years other than a minute or two at his immigration rally only to launce into his regular stump speech.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)6. Indeed, he said something similar to that a number of years ago in a Lou Dobbs interview....
LONG before he considered running for President. He also said it just a few months ago:
Link to tweet
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)7. So, he wants the borders closed?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)8. Seems he does. The subheadline is interesting.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)9. The internet sure does remember everything, doesn't it? (nt)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden