Elizabeth Warren: "What do we do with this?"

[Skya Rhen]

Link to tweet

[redstatebluegirl]

1. I love Elizabeth, but she shouldn't need help with this.

She needs to learn to speak to Black people without needing assistance when they disagree with her.

[Demsrule86]

18. If you are talking about parents who live in urban areas with shitty public schools...the charter

thing is not an issue...but life or death for their kids...this is a complicated issue and I have some problems with Charter schools -in terms of funding and regulation, but they have helped poor kids in some areas here in Ohio.

[LakeArenal]

2. Would this be a gaffe?

Just curious.

[Unclephil]

3. In the bubble

Warren unfortunately has been in the bubble for almost her entire adult life. Most recently, being a Professor at Harvard doesn't exactly get you out and involved in the community. I imagine even her high school in Oklahoma didn't give her exposure. maybe I am wrong but I would imagine Oklahoma was pretty segregated.

[crazytown]

5. cf. Biden: 'You should vote for trump'

Same night.

[Unclephil]

8. where am I inaccurate

I,on the other hand grew up in a neighborhood that was very diverse. It was in the part of Yonkers that was not segregated and I am not white. My first vote was McGovern.

[crazytown]

9. All that real politik experience VP Biden has

and he gives the GOP a nice soundbite? Glass houses.

[Unclephil]

12. Didn't Warren say Maybe Biden

was in the wrong presidential primary. Isn't that just a little over the top? Let's see I don't remember Biden ever being a registered republican and Warren probably voted for the party that has put us into this inequality situation.

[crazytown]

15. No Warren did NOT say Biden was in the wrong presidential primary. Ever.

That was a Bloomberg headline, which the Biden campaign was prepared to run with. There's no there, there.

[Demsrule86]

20. She did say that without naming him specifically and has never retracted this statement.

[Unclephil]

22. NY Times

Last week, after Mr. Biden’s campaign criticized Ms. Warren’s proposal to pay for Medicare for all, she suggested that Mr. Biden was “running in the wrong presidential primary.”

She has weaknesses as a candidate. They all do. I believe she will have problems in the midwest. Harvard, Massachusetts academia. What could go wrong?

[Demsrule86]

24. They do not like Sen. Warren in my area...and Cleveland is pretty blue.

[Unclephil]

28. She has limited appeal in my opinion

polls show her base is white highly educated people. I think she will get stuck at 22-24%.

[Demsrule86]

90. Yes, I think so to...

[crazytown]

29. Warren said this

If anyone wants to defend keeping those high profits for Insurance companies, and those high profits for Drug companies, and not making the top 1% pay a fair share in taxes, and not making corporations pay a fair share in taxes, then I think they are running in the wrong presidential primary

Did she say Biden did not want the top 1% or corporations to pay a fair share of taxes -? No - and it is absurd to suggest she was saying that. What she said about Biden - the only thing - was this

The cost projections that we have on Medicare were authenticated by President Obama’s head of Medicare. Our revenue projections were authenticated by President Obama’s labor economist. And the employer contribution is already part of the Affordable Care Act that President Obama put into the Affordable Care Act. So if Joe Biden doesn’t like that, I’m just not sure where he’s going.


The Bloomberg headline was "Warren Derides Biden as Running in 'Wrong Presidential Primary" - it was dishonest, and Biden's campaign was happy to run with it.

The weakness Warren has is that her War Room is not responding to misrepresentations .

[Unclephil]

36. It was a not so subtle swipe

at Biden and the ACA. First off I am for single payer. As opposed to most I have bought insurance on the open market for 20 years with a short stint where I was in employee plan. I am buying right now.

It takes a long time to switch over. It took Canada a long time. It is incremental. If you wanted it to happen quickly take away the tax deduction for companies and tax the recipients of employer based insurance as income.

We have a couple of obstacles. One we probably don't have enough Doctors or medical staff. Primarily Doctors because we have restricted the number of medical schools.

Secondly, we have 17% of our economy tied up in the medical world. We would have a negative effect on employment. This is why it is probably a 15 year plan.

[crazytown]

44. Medicare for All was never Warren's issue - that would be corruption.

She was content to ride on Bernie's bill - that was a mistake. Yes, four years is too short a period for transition, however it is structured.

The challenge is to put comprehensive public health care into the real world so people can compare it with what they have. I think Warrens transition plan does a reasonable job at that.

[Unclephil]

53. end employer sponsored healthcare

and throw everyone into the crap that people get when they buy their own insurance and it will be changed in 2 years.

[at140]

57. +1000

[Demsrule86]

93. She also said this.

“Democrats are not going to win by repeating Republican talking points,” the Massachusetts senator said in Des Moines, Iowa. “So, if Biden doesn’t like that, I’m just not sure where he’s going.”

https://politicalwire.com/2019/11/01/warren-says-biden-is-running-in-wrong-primary
Nov 01, 2019 · "Warren Says Biden Is Running in ‘Wrong Primary’ November 1, 2019 at 5:25 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment Elizabeth Warren swatted back at Joe Biden’s criticism of her $21 trillion Medicare-for-All plan, accusing him of running in the wrong presidential primary…"

She has never denied she met Biden either...she said it.

[nini]

10. Does this somehow undo Warren's handling or her situation?

[crazytown]

11. Biden was unable to manage his situation

gave the GOP a nice soundbite, Glass houses,

[nini]

14. That's not what the OP is about

Is it?

[crazytown]

17. The tweet was about Warren being unable to handle a protest.

Biden did worse - on the same night.

[nini]

21. AGAIN how does this change what warren did?

You can't answer that so bye.

Have a good day.

[crazytown]

37. She did better than Biden

Thats the contest. That's what it's all about.

[emmaverybo]

85. Matter of opinion. He was being trolled. They obviously don't care about Trump's terrible policies

or getting sane immigration policy reform.

[crazytown]

86. Agreed.

[emmaverybo]

87. He didn't have to ask someone else to handle it. Read the twitters for how bad this looked. As bad

as it gets in terms if the optics.

[crazytown]

89. Telling someone to vote for trump is as bad as it gets

no matter who is handling it.

[emmaverybo]

92. Read the twitters. They can go to heck, that group confronting him on Obama policy when they

should be confronting Trump. Obama offered an enlightened immigration policy that would give 11 million people a pathway to citizenship, So yeah, see how great a deal Trump is.

Give em hell Joe.

[crazytown]

94. Warren is targeted from two sides

Mainstream Dems & DSA left. Both can get quite passionate. This is a one day wonder. Biden's soundbite might come back to haunt hum. Nothing like hearing the nominee say, 'you should vote for trump'.

[emmaverybo]

96. Well who takes him literally? And yes, I see her dilemma. But I am telling you, her reaction was

interpreted as racially so insensitive. With Joe, it’s just a mouthing off, but Warren has got a real problem with AA support and she doesn’t have a clue. She was so uncomfortable. Problem is she has been insulated from criticism and I don’t think she has had much exposure to AA’s.


.

[crazytown]

99. Warren, like everyone else has to make their own case.

Her speech was very well received by the audience. She is following her game plan - laying out the case, with a minimum of comment on other campaigns.

[Demsrule86]

75. I saw the video...he did fine...and these protesters were the same ones that went after Diane

Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi...but never Republicans.

[Demsrule86]

19. I have no idea what you are talking about ...who said 'vote for Trump'?

[emmaverybo]

83. Good. He got snappy with heckler trolls who insulted Obama administration, which developed a

comprehensive Immigration reform act to give 11 million citizenship. We can not afford open borders, not politically, and certainly not financially and in terms of supply and demand if we are to have decent medical care for all.

If these trolls don’t understand it’s Trump they should be plaguing, then yeah let them vote for him. Pretty good chance they are not supporting Dems as harassing Biden about deportations under Obama does nothing to address Trump’s brutal policy or advance the cause of humane and
sensible immigration reform.

[whathehell]

38. Warren's background wasn't elite -- It was lower middle class. As she's said

'I didn't go to Harvard, I worked there".

I don't know that her school was "pretty segregated" -- I would doubt that it was any more so than Joe Biden's in Scranton.

[Unclephil]

42. It is the image

of being a Professor at Harvard and being from Massachusetts that harms her. That is like Christmas for the republican machine. She has been in Academia since the seventies.

[whathehell]

52. No, that "image" is belied, not only by her personal story, which she

routinely recounts and is well known, but by her 'folksy" manner..She is not FROM Massachusetts, she's from Oklahoma....Obama's background was actually far more "elite" than Warren's. He was an academic too -- one who ATTENDED Harvard, not just worked there.

[blm]

82. Because YOU WANT it to be the image, you push it.

Even here.

YOU don’t know anything about her actual career so you push the same easy narrative that GOP propagandists would push.

That’s wrong. Period. Unworthy of DU.

[Bradshaw3]

45. Yes, you are wrong and your ignorance about Warren could be remedied

By doing just a bit of research.

https://elizabethwarren.com/meet-elizabeth

Her high school in Oklahoma, Northwest Classen, was multi-racial, she taught at University of Houston, Texas, Michigan, Rutgers and has had many diverse students over the years (yes Harvard and those other universities actually allow POC to attend).

[Unclephil]

48. Like I said I wasn't sure of her high school

I was assuming it was segregated. That being said how many African Americans were in law school? Pretty low I imagine. I work in the legal industry and it is not that diverse and you are using her own webiste for facts.

[Bradshaw3]

54. Her own web site is factual

Are you disputing that she taught at those schools or just implyng that? And you are using your own anecdotal experience (assuming you are being truthful) to make some claim about how law schools in places like New Jersey and Michigan are populated. Like I said try doing some research before implying or guessing and then making an assumption about her background.

https://www.google.com/

[Unclephil]

56. I don't dispute she taught at any of those schools

No one ever embellished their "resume". The legal industry is not representative of America. It is not diverse. I am a guy who has been working with Attorneys for years. I was invited to Rudy Guliiani's introduction party with his last law firm at the White Collar conference.

[Unclephil]

68. Still looking for that one African American

here is the 1966 Northwest Classen high school yearbook.

https://www.classmates.com/siteui/yearbooks/20641?page=147

This is why you have to be skeptical of anyone's own published bio.

Zero African Americans on the basketball team. My high school was totally integrated and we sent 3 African Americans to the NBA.

[blm]

78. Are you fvcking kidding? Do you even KNOW what her longtime research work

dealt with for years?

Bubble, my @ss.

[emmaverybo]

100. The research was into bankruptcies. She pulled cases from court and pored through them. That

was how she got stories from “average Americans.”

What does that research have to do with familiarity with and exposure to AA communities?

[blm]

101. Middle,working class, working poor family bankruptcies.

You don’t want to see how it connects. You never do if it gets in the way of your anti-Warren mindset.

[emmaverybo]

108. Yes.She went through the cases. Do you know what that means? Case files. She read pages.

I am not criticizing her research, though it has been, but rather amazed that case research could be considered exposure to AA people, communities, concerns much less actual relationships. Her research was into how the middle class to working poor go bankrupt. Her field was bankruptcy law.

[blm]

111. ugh ....

Because black people aren’t a representative portion of the middle class, working class, and working poor who struggle economically and are usually forced into bankruptcies through a financial and healthcare system rigged against them? Are you sure about that?

And, FYI, it’s only certain, agenda-driven political camps pushing the evilly crafted idea that Warren is an elitist with no exposure to people of color. It’s not true, though.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/09/09/elizabeth-warren-african-american-support

[emmaverybo]

113. They are. I am sure she encountered stories from black people, though they were not her focus

per se, and this research was not of the type to bring her into contact, certainly not connection, with them individually or within communities.

Now you offered research, rather archly, as proof Warren had not lived in a bubble, a very white bubble.

Her research gave her no personal exposure to POC.

As for the rest of your post, I am not engaging in a proxy argument in which I stand in for people who “evilly craft ideas” about Warren, thank you very much.

[loyalsister]

4. White candidates need to be willing to admit to not knowing

I like a candidate who is willing to admit it when they don't know what the best next step is. That is why we elect people who are willing to listen to advisers without being defensive or fragile or telling them to vote for someone else.

[crazytown]

6. Biden could have handled it:

'You should vote for trump': Same night.

[emmaverybo]

88. Whataboutism. He gave em what for, She went white as a sheet and stood behind a black

woman to talk to AAs for her.

[whathehell]

46. Not just "white candidates", all candidates

All of us come from particular backgrounds and all of us, rich, poor, black and white, are limited by those backgrounds
As Will Rogers once said, "We're all ignorant, just about different things.

[loyalsister]

64. True

However, I specifically named white people because whiteness is of such great counter benefit that ignorance of the experiences of oppressed people only serves as a barrier, if those of us who care are unwilling to accept it.

[whathehell]

66. I'm not sure what you mean

by "whiteness is of such a counterbenefit".

[loyalsister]

69. White people can easily live lives of great success and

continue to hold the most political and institutional power in this country with very little knowledge of what it means to live in bodies that do not carry their advantages.

[whathehell]

70. Men of all colors do that every day

Hell, they even LIVE intimately with women and show little to no acknowledgement of the privileges that come with THEIR bodies.

[loyalsister]

71. Exactly

Being white means not even having to consider one's self as even having a race. Being a white male is a whole other level of privilege. Since both identities only provide benefits, we don't even consider them relevant as a matter of course. Which is why I look for someone who is willing to stop and consider the possibility that they don't know something, and they might be incorrect in what they have done and thought for most of their lives.

[blm]

103. ✔️

[The empressof all]

63. LOL! We think alike on this...

I missed your comment and agreed down thread!

[ecstatic]

98. +1000. nt

[BeyondGeography]

7. Tommy Christopher is an anti-Warren shit stirrer

who pushed the false pregnancy rumors earlier in the campaign.

Nice source.

As for what do we do with this? Give an amazing speech that wins them and everyone else who was there over to her side:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Bradshaw3]

47. Thanks for the sane perspective on an attempted smear

[Skya Rhen]

13. She obviously didn't have a plan for this. Panicking in the midst of AAs won't win her the

nomination. As a politician, she should know that optics can either make you or break you. This was not a good look for her.

[BeyondGeography]

16. The protesters ended up cheering her

Nice try.

Do you have anything positive to report about your candidate’s outing yesterday?

[Demsrule86]

23. It doesn't mean they will vote for her...people in our area who send their kids to

Charter schools will not vote for someone that wants to get rid of them. Charter schools are big around here for the AA community and others. Does she not understand how bad some urban schools are? Sure they need fixing but that won't help the current students. Sen. Warren needs to hire staffers who live in the Mid West or who have some understanding of our issues.

[BeyondGeography]

25. It does mean she handled the situation

How did Joe do yesterday with his public interactions?

[Skya Rhen]

31. Warren handled the situation? So we are really going there by giving her undue credit owed to an AA

woman, by the name of Pressley? Give this strong black woman the credit, please. Unbelievable!

[BeyondGeography]

32. So you're complimenting Warren now on the quality of her surrogates...good.

[Skya Rhen]

39. If Warren's "surrogate" didn't come to her rescue, she would have passed out. She owes much credit

to that "surrogate".

Oh, come to think of it, I didn't hear a "thank you" from Warren after Pressley had to take over the mic...

[BeyondGeography]

41. Pressley was named co-chair of her campaign today.

Sounds like they're good.

[Demsrule86]

40. OK found it...googled your quote...he told an anti-deportation group that they should be

voting for Trump...He thinks they hurt our party and I agree. Deportations will not be ended and saying so will ensure we lose in 20. I saw the entire thing and frankly I think Biden did fine...honestly those folks accused Biden and Obama of family separations...which is a lie and helps Trump. Biden listened to what they said and they were rude and called him a liar. Frankly they might as well vote for Trump as what they are doing attacking Democrats will only help Republicans and cause Latino voters to sit home. Biden is right about this.

The entire thing really pissed me off considering what the GOP are trying to do to the dreamers who owe their protected status to Pres. Obama and they have nothing to say about Trump caging kids but go after Democrats. Unbelievable. I would also say, they were allowed to get way to close to Biden...where the hell was the secret service...they should have been tossed out as a security threat.

[TidalWave46]

79. This made me smile.

[Demsrule86]

33. As I said before, I have no idea what you are talking about...I googled it...didn't see anything.

Just tell me what was said. No need for a link...just tell me. I have no doubt that anything you report will be accurate.

[Skya Rhen]

26. He has our black vote, which will win him the nomination - all that really matters to me.

[whathehell]

65. Yup

Nice try, indeed.

[Demsrule86]

27. K&R Thanks skya.

[Funtatlaguy]

30. Dear Biden Supporters: I'd love to see our candidates debate.

A one on one, two hour debate.
With or without moderators.
With or without an audience.
Anytime, anywhere.
I’d pay to be there.
She would be the clear winner.
Guaranteed.

[Demsrule86]

34. Ok...and what would that prove exactly?

[Funtatlaguy]

43. It would prove these things:

She is smarter
She is more articulate
She is quicker on her feet
She has a better vision for this country
She would be a better President.

* I love Joe. He has a beautiful soul and heart, And, I still think he will be our nominee and I would work hard for him if he is.
However, I believe that Elizabeth has the right temperament, ideology, and passion that this moment in America’s history really needs.

[Demsrule86]

50. I disagree... I don't think EW is smarter ...she doesn't have a stammer so I guess that would mean

she is more articulate but that doesn't matter to me...talk is cheap. As for quicker on her feet the rally discussed in this OP doesn't demonstrate this....I am not a fan of her vision although I respect her and would vote for her in a general. And the final one...no she would not be a better president...Biden was Vice President -a very active vice president...he will begin fixing Trump's mess on day one...no on the job training required as would be with Warren or any of the others. I also think she does not have good political instincts which is so important in order to win a general.

I do not believe she can win votes in the Mid West that we must win if we are to send Trump packing- MI,WI and PA. I believe Biden will be the nominee and win the presidency. Warren is a great senator and I hope she remains there and continues her good work. We need to increase our numbers in the senate desperately.

[Funtatlaguy]

51. We both love our candidates. That's a good thing.

[Demsrule86]

55. That is very true...and believe it or not I love Warren...I think she is a great Senator and a good

person.

[Funtatlaguy]

60. All of our candidates are (except TG, I just can't deal with her anyway).

[emmaverybo]

91. Biden speaks heart to heart. He also is conversant on many issues. Warren has a wheelhouse, but

it only contains domestic policy issues. When she gets on FP, she is not well-versed, stumbles, and
filters world affairs through her own comfort zone—her notions about income inequality.

Anyhow, Biden beats most in the area of emotional IQ.

[Kahuna7]

72. How is she smarter? Being a bankruptcy attorney hardly proves

that a person is smart.

[Skya Rhen]

73. Warren's a fast talker - I'd give her that one.

[Kahuna7]

77. She talks like a teacher/professor. That's what she is. I've known many

teachers and profs who sound smart when they're teaching their areas of expertise. I wouldn't assume that they know everything. C'mon.

[Skya Rhen]

81. Exactly!

[Demsrule86]

76. I am not a Tulsi fan either.

[BeyondGeography]

35. Warren gave an amazing speech

https://aas.princeton.edu/people/james-r-jones

Link to tweet

[Bradshaw3]

49. Too bad Joe doesn't have a surrogate for the debates

He hasn't made it through one debate without making misstatements and flat out word salads. I guess this post is some kind of false equivalency for Joe's most recent facepalm involving AAs. Fail.

[Demsrule86]

59. I thought Joe did fine and he is up in the after debate polls...that was just mean. Biden gave

the best closing statement.

[Bradshaw3]

61. You say that no matter how he did

Unfortunately people who are actually unbiased disagree. I would post the numerous low grades Joe got after this debate and every other one except one where he got mostly Cs, but it is not worth the effort since you don't care how he does.

[Demsrule86]

74. No I wouldn't. I would say nothing. And those giving Biden poor grades are against him all the time

so it is meaningless. He is still the front runner and can take down Trump. The Media and some pollsters don't want Biden. They want Buttigeige or Warren. IMHO both would lose to Trump in a general although, either has my vote in a general. I could say the same thing about your support for Warren who panicked on stage because of a few activists. And I have heard nothing but excuses from most Warren supporters. No candidate is perfect. I am not electing a 'debate' champion but a president. And Biden has experience. He was VP and will be ready to clean up Trump's mess on day 1... no on the job training needed.

[Unclephil]

84. How come you never commented on

North classen high school yearbook? Her bio said she went to a multi cultural high school. The 1966 yearbook as far as I can see did not have a single minority.

[LeftTurn3623]

58. she is great!

[The empressof all]

62. Asking for help and not pretending you know it all is a sign of a great leader.

I don't understand why we expect any of our leaders of either party to know it all, speak without error, and perform like a trained seal when presented with challenges or confrontation. These are human beings. Nothing wrong with asking for help when confronting a situation when you might not understand every nuance. That's why they have staff and supporters. She didn't run from conflict..She wanted to learn and asked for help.

[loyalsister]

67. "She wanted to learn and asked for help"

EXACTLY! Humility is a good thing. Especially after our nightmare of having a leader at the opposite, most destructive extreme.

[blm]

80. ✔️✔️✔️

[Demsrule86]

95. That is not what I am looking for in a president...has she never interacted with people of color?

She is 70+ for heaven's sake...not a big deal but if Biden had done something similar you all would call it a gaffe and say he was out of touch or some such thing.

[Blue_true]

109. She likely has interacted with many people of color.

Most likely of the Barack Obama caliber given her role at Harvard. Does she have a feel for Blacks that may be the first in their family to go to college and are not yet at the point where they would attend one of her classes, most likely not, that is why candidates bring along advisers and supporters to help them through those rough patches, as Pressley did for Warren.

Warren went on to give a great speech. I will be totally impressed if I find out that she did the following:

Meet with the protestors after the rally for a frank face to face discussion, I would guess that she likely did.

Travel back to Washington with Pressley to talk more in depth about the issues that the protestors raised.

Presidential candidates don't have to be know it alls. We have a person in the White House that believes he knows it all and the results have been damaging to the nation. I prefer a candidate that learns, bounces back and adapts. There are going to be more protestors, if Warren consistently make the most of such situations, that is what I expect from a great leader.

[Demsrule86]

114. I respect your choice. But I just dont find her impressive.

I like her but not feeling it..l will vote for her in a general of course.

[Blue_true]

105. Trump knows it all. Look what we have.

Like you, I rather have someone who is willing to ask for help when faced with something that is unfamiliar to them. Should Warren have spent more time around everyday Black people instead of the highly selected Black people that she taught at Harvard? Definitely yes, but she was willing to share the stage with a person that had the street cred and she learned from that moment. I hope that Warren met with the protestors after the rally to listen to their concerns, that would be a major plus for her in my book.

[blm]

110. She has long had a strong outreach.

She has never exaggerated or even touted it for public or political consumption.

She’s genuine about it, not calculating.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/09/09/elizabeth-warren-african-american-support

[ecstatic]

97. This wasn't the typical disruption.

First, we now know that it was a phony disruption set up by a pro-charter school billionaire.

Second, it wasn't one or 2 individuals--they took up damn near an entire section of the gym, and there was no mechanism in place to stop or remove them. They kept chanting every few minutes in the middle of EW speaking. Also, they weren't all black protesters, as the tweeter suggested, to me, it looked like there were some white guys/gals sprinkled in as well. They all had on the same T-shirt.

I'm not sure how she should have handled an entire wing of protesters because the typical President Obama model of directly engaging doesn't really work when you're being shouted down by 50 people.

Also, it's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations: With EW being white, the optics of EW telling protesters, some of whom were black, to STFU would have been used against her by disingenuous trolls and haters. Now those same disingenuous folks are suggesting that EW was too weak to handle the situation herself.

Ayanna was able to diffuse the situation only because the optics of the protesters shouting down a black congresswoman who was demanding that we all hear about black women's history would have been really bad.

Checkmate?

So... yeah... maybe EW should bring a "black whisperer" (by the way, that's a really disgusting and disrespectful way to describe Rep. Pressley ) if it can stop fake disruptors from disrupting.

[SterlingPound]

102. +1 testify

[blm]

104. The hatred for Warren from certain camps is so overthetop, so reaching.

So full of sh!t.

[The empressof all]

107. Yep....

She had the right supports in place who could step in and use their skills in leadership to diffuse the situation.

[Beartracks]

106. She did meet with the (Walton-funded) protesters after the rally.

Warren did meet with the protesters:

https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/us/2019/11/22/elizabeth-warren-atlanta-charter-school-protestors/


And apparently the Walton family funded the demonstration, which I hadn't heard before now:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/22/billionaire-walton-family-behind-pro-charter-school-protest-warren-rally


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[Blue_true]

112. For me, it is a major plus that she met with the protestors.

She also likely didn't neglect her supporters that wanted selfies with her. One mark of a strong leader is a willingness to hear all sides of an issue, not just the filtered aspects of that issue.