Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum"Pete Buttigieg, Donald Trump, and the privilege of inexperience"
The fact that Mayor Pete can stand up on Oprah Winferys Sound Stage at Tyler Perrys studio and say that he doesnt meet or even need what many people would consider to be the basic qualifications for holding the highest office in the land aint nothing but white privilege.
Society appreciates white men who are outsiders to a system coming in to shake things up but balks at the idea of black women and other people of color doing the same. White men are allowed to be innovative and creative while everyone else must color inside the lines, lest we be told that we dont know how to do our jobs. People are okay with new ideas and a new ways of thinking as long as it is a white man pushing it. Everybody else is patted on the head and sent away until a white man comes around saying the very same thing.
What kills me super dead is that white folksespecially white menget the privilege of showing up wherever they want with little experience and lots of loud opinions and people will make time to listen for them. I cannot tell you how many times in my career that I have had to convince people that I know what Im talking about concerning somthing that I was being paid to know or had dedicated years of study to be able to have an informed opinion about only to be over talked by a white man who was loud and wrong. Not to mention all the times that I have had to fight to be given a title or perks concominant with the level of work that I was doing because people questioned my level of knowledge or experience.
https://thearmchaircommentary.com/2019/11/21/pete-buttigieg-donald-trump-and-the-privilege-of-inexperience/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DavidDvorkin
(19,499 posts)Not because of his inexperience but despite it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But this piece raises some important points.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,996 posts)In October of 2011--roughly the same point in the 2012 election as we are now--Herman Cain polled in first place in a Fox news polls with 24%, beating Romney's 20%.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-gop-primary-voters-propel-cain-to-top-of-pack
Similarly, multiple polls in October/November of 2015 had Ben Carson in first place in the Republican primary, ahead of Trump, hitting a high of over 24%.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html
Buttigieg has not come remotely close to those national numbers/standings.
The article has interesting things to say, but he based the piece on a false foundation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,397 posts)No thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,201 posts)in solving problems with well thought out solutions than your average outsider. Big thumbs down on this article. Of course there is white privilege, but its not going to be solved by attacking someone just because he is white and not working in DC.
Full disclosure: Im white, but that shouldnt matter, right?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DavidDvorkin
(19,499 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,599 posts)He has already packed a tremendous amount of both experience and accomplishment into his soon to be 38 years on the planet. He has had an extraordinary education on two continents including an ultra rare 'Oxford First' in his Rhodes Scholar degree in Oxford's Pembroke College's very rigorous Philosophy, politics and economics (PPE) Programme which is one of the best university programmes to prepare a person for a career in politics. Whilst there he also was an editor of the Oxford International Review. That all was after he graduated (and was the President of the Student Advisory Council) magna cum laude with a dual major from The Harvard Institute of Politics at the Kennedy School of Government.
He has worked on multiple federal, statewide and national political campaigns, including John Kerry's in 2004. He speak 8 languages, and has traveld the globe extensively, both in a professional private sector placements (including working a a consultant for the former Sec. of Defence under Bill Clinton, William Cohen) and in his duties as a Naval Intelligence officer in a tour of duty in Afghanistan war zone.
In between all that, he also ran, at the age of 28, for statewide office (Indiana State Treasurer) in 2010, and although he lost badly, he also lost by the lowest percentage of any Democratic statewide candidate that year. He also has 8 years now of full on executive level (and South Bend has a strong mayor system) political experience, and whilst it is only a smaller city, he has overseen a staff, a group of employees, and a budget that dwarfs those of any US Representative or Senator.
He has had to continuously interface with all possible levels of government in the US was well, from small local wards all the way up to a myriad number of the Federal Government's multiplicity of departments.
Buttigieg is not where he is at in the race by accident of birth or sheer luck. Look at where he came from. He is a 37 year old gay mayor of a Midwest city who almost no one had heard of before (other than his attempt to run for the chairmanship of the DNC) with no powerful financial or family connections. Also for all the downplay and stick he has been getting, he did win reelection with 80% of the vote, in an almost majority-minority city, including the majority of support from the PoC who voted and that was AFTER he came out as gay and AFTER the Boykins demotion, which occurred when he had been in office SIX DAYS and was then approached by the FBI about the chief, who he had just rehired on for his mayoral term 2 days before.
He has risen up in the campaign because of who he is, on his talents, on his own merits, as an intellect, as a hyper-skilled communicator, and simply as a person with a shedload of charisma and a sense of purpose, place, and destination. I find the tenor and tone of some of the article to be condescendingly dismissive and over the top, and her attempt to join Buttigieg at the hip with the odious monster that is Rump to be extremely problematic at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,739 posts)Your post makes Pete's case superbly. You're a brilliant writer and I commend you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,599 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I cannot believe that article put Buttigieg in the same sentence as rump. Smh.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BootinUp
(47,201 posts)Thumbs up
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CaliforniaPeggy
(149,739 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Equating Mayor Pete and the turd removes all credibility of the writer.
The article is nothing more than a bigoted hit piece, all dressed up as anti-racist indignation. A lot of people face all sorts of "isms" ever day. But apparently there is only one "ism" that is actually legit.
I am not buying what the author is selling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Invalidates the rest of the article imo.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue Owl
(50,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)I remember a young black Democrat who wasn't that well known and didn't have that much experience, who blew us all ways with the quality of his mind and his character.
Made a damn fine president.
Armchair "commentator" seems like a troll.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,462 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Meub
(23 posts)So no.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)So maybe its gender instead of race? Or maybe its message. Its all so easy when you have an agenda and a word count.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided