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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:48 AM Dec 2019

What Biden has going for him (Jennifer Rubin, Washington Post)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/17/what-biden-has-going-him/


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The most extraordinary feature of Biden’s polling is his share of African American voters. In the Quinnipiac poll, he has 52 percent of African Americans; the next highest, Sanders, has 14 percent. Among nonwhite voters in the Fox poll, Biden gets 35 percent; Sanders is next, but remains far behind at 22 percent. (Perhaps Biden’s underperformance in New Hampshire and Iowa has more to do with the low number of African American voters than any perceived shortcomings in his performance, a favorite topic in national media coverage.)

Biden is also having success pulling in liberal voters (perhaps those who have gotten nervous about the electability of Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts). In the Fox poll, Biden leads among these voters with 26 percent; in the Quinnipiac poll, he also draws 26 percent (although he claims only 15 percent among very liberal voters). The IBD/TIPP poll points out: “Before the 2020 Democratic primaries begin, Biden gets just 17% of liberal support, vs. 21% for Sanders and 23% for Warren. The elusive, but much-coveted moderate voter, favors Biden by 31%, Sanders by 21% and Warren by 23%.” Put those liberal or somewhat liberal voters together with moderate voters who favor him overwhelmingly, and Biden has broad ideological support to go with his racially diverse base.

In additional to Biden’s relatively broad base, he has another couple of things going for him. First, the other candidates are fighting among themselves, leaving him out of it. The subject of a lot of the sniping between Warren and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg over their work for corporate America does not affect Biden, who has released his taxes going back decades and has spent virtually his whole adult life in the public sector.

Second, as the Boston Globe’s Michael Cohen points out: “Seeing Biden on the stump is a constant reminder that for all his faults — his verbal gaffes, his meandering speeches, his often uninspiring debate performances, the creeping sense that politics has passed him by — Uncle Joe is, at his core, a good guy.” Cohen concludes, “There is perhaps no simpler explanation for why, in a campaign where so much of the attention has been focused on his political rivals, Biden remains the Democratic front-runner and the candidate best positioned to not only win his party’s nomination but become the next president of the United States.”

Emotional connection. Affection. No other candidate, with the exception of Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) who left the race, is so engaged at a visceral level with voters. Warren rattles off her list of proposals. Sanders prides himself on being a grouch and wants voters to do the talking about their struggles. Buttigieg is a cheery whiz kid, but not the kind to grab voters by their shoulders and stare intently at them while sharing stories of loss.

Gut-level emotion, hugging and back patting (remember when Biden was in trouble for that?) may not be every voter’s cup of tea, but plainly an awful lot of voters, especially African American voters, feel comfortable with him. If Buttigieg is most akin to the cool, cerebral President Obama, then Biden might be in the mold of another successful Democrat: President Bill Clinton. He too felt voters’ pain, won over African Americans and cornered the market on moderate Democrats. That coalition elected him. Twice.



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If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
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What Biden has going for him (Jennifer Rubin, Washington Post) (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2019 OP
I will be happy to vote for Biden NewJeffCT Dec 2019 #1
You do realize tiredtoo Dec 2019 #2
You do realize she's a strong critic of Trump who appears often on MSNBC, don't you? highplainsdem Dec 2019 #3
yes i do tiredtoo Dec 2019 #7
Rubin's said positive things about a number of Democratic candidates besides Biden, particularly highplainsdem Dec 2019 #8
She wants a candidate who can win a general...some are to caught up in admiration for their chosen Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #12
There is another republican strategist tiredtoo Dec 2019 #21
Rubin: The only way to purge the GOP of Trump is to burn down the Republican Party highplainsdem Dec 2019 #4
Just stay on message Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #5
"Buttigieg is a cheery whiz kid" PatSeg Dec 2019 #6
If you google "buttigieg whiz kid" you'll get nearly 80,000 results. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #9
Seriously? PatSeg Dec 2019 #13
I just tried it again, this time got 69,000 results. Earlier it was nearly 77,000 results. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #16
Just tried it PatSeg Dec 2019 #18
Btw, if you check the list of all of Rubin's columns at the Post, you'll see a lot of positive highplainsdem Dec 2019 #11
Thanks PatSeg Dec 2019 #14
Agree completely about Buttigieg. And yes, I'd like to see him in the Senate, or maybe as governor, highplainsdem Dec 2019 #17
I agree with everything you said PatSeg Dec 2019 #19
K&R n/t PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #15
The most extraordinary feature of Biden's polling is his share of African American voters Cha Dec 2019 #20
Well tiredtoo Dec 2019 #22
What a strange comment, when Biden's the front-runner among Democrats who are polled, highplainsdem Dec 2019 #24
Joe Biden is the Democratic Party's most electable candidate Gothmog Dec 2019 #23
And most qualified and experienced. Proven leadership ability. Strong AA support. A message emmaverybo Dec 2019 #27
K&R Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #25
Biden is COOL flamingdem Dec 2019 #26
 

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
1. I will be happy to vote for Biden
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:54 AM
Dec 2019

if he wins the nomination. I'm worried about the other Dems in the race being able to turn out African American voters, who are a vital part of the Democratic base.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
2. You do realize
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 11:59 AM
Dec 2019

this lady is a conservative (republican) don't you?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
3. You do realize she's a strong critic of Trump who appears often on MSNBC, don't you?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:05 PM
Dec 2019

She wants the Democratic nominee to beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
7. yes i do
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:32 PM
Dec 2019

MSNBC is loaded with republicans that do not like trump. She appears to want a specific Democratic nominee to beat trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
8. Rubin's said positive things about a number of Democratic candidates besides Biden, particularly
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:00 PM
Dec 2019

Klobuchar and Buttigieg. She's been critical of Biden at times, and she's said more than once there's no clear front-runner.

She has criticized Warren at times, but she's also praised her:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/08/new-hampshires-democratic-convention-explains-lot/

Please remember that you don't have to be a Republican to prefer less leftist Democratic candidates to more leftist ones. The same is true for lots of Democrats, maybe the majority of them.

Rubin also wrote a column on Stacey Abrams saying the most impressive Democrat may not be running for president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/29/most-popular-democrat-isnt-running-president/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
12. She wants a candidate who can win a general...some are to caught up in admiration for their chosen
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:42 PM
Dec 2019

candidate IMHO...we need someone why can win...and like it or not the UK election showed the pitfalls of running a left leaning candidate. I will vote blue no matter who but I do not believe any candidate can beat Trump...probably only Biden. We take a terrible risk with any other candidate as losing the election would have huge consequences.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
21. There is another republican strategist
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:59 PM
Dec 2019

On MSNBC right now. Talking to Katy Tur. I missed her name and re-wind is currently disabled but she is also pushing against Bernie and Elizabeth.
The republicans are supporting what they consider the lesser of 3 evils.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Just stay on message
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:31 PM
Dec 2019

and be empathic and compassionate to your audience. Yelling at people will not work. Lying to people will not work. Just keep your eye on the prize..

After this next debate,the messaging has to be expose everything Trump and the Rethugs 24/7,no holds barred.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
6. "Buttigieg is a cheery whiz kid"
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:32 PM
Dec 2019

She certainly does have a way with words.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
9. If you google "buttigieg whiz kid" you'll get nearly 80,000 results.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:06 PM
Dec 2019

Rubin's hardly the only one in the media who's called him that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
13. Seriously?
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:50 PM
Dec 2019

How funny! I didn't really know how to describe Buttigieg, "whiz kid" really works.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
16. I just tried it again, this time got 69,000 results. Earlier it was nearly 77,000 results.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:16 PM
Dec 2019

Not sure why there was that much of a difference. It looks like the same top results both times.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
18. Just tried it
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:37 PM
Dec 2019

I got 69,000 results as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
11. Btw, if you check the list of all of Rubin's columns at the Post, you'll see a lot of positive
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

columns about Buttigieg.

Including one that was just posted here at DU today:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287384382

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
14. Thanks
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 01:56 PM
Dec 2019

I like Buttigieg, but I just don't see him as presidential. Maybe in a few more years. Meanwhile, I think he'd make a great senatorial candidate. Its still early though, I can't say that I saw Obama as presidential at this point in the race in 2007.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
17. Agree completely about Buttigieg. And yes, I'd like to see him in the Senate, or maybe as governor,
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:18 PM
Dec 2019

but the problem there is how conservative Indiana tends to be in statewide races.

Still, he might be able to win a statewide race there despite that.

And then I'd like to see him run for president again when he has at least 4 and preferably 8 more years of experience.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,649 posts)
19. I agree with everything you said
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 02:39 PM
Dec 2019

As for a statewide race, I wonder how he polls in his home state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Cha

(297,809 posts)
20. The most extraordinary feature of Biden's polling is his share of African American voters
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019
The most extraordinary feature of Biden’s polling is his share of African American voters. In the Quinnipiac poll, he has 52 percent of African Americans; the next highest, Sanders, has 14 percent. Among nonwhite voters in the Fox poll, Biden gets 35 percent; Sanders is next, but remains far behind at 22 percent. (Perhaps Biden’s underperformance in New Hampshire and Iowa has more to do with the low number of African American voters than any perceived shortcomings in his performance, a favorite topic in national media coverage.)

Thank you for this, hpd!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
22. Well
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 04:09 PM
Dec 2019

If you folks want the republicans to select our next president, so be it. Oh by the way, how's that been working out for you?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
24. What a strange comment, when Biden's the front-runner among Democrats who are polled,
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:51 PM
Dec 2019

and when the attacks on Biden from Trump and the GOP show he's the candidate they're most afraid of.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,667 posts)
23. Joe Biden is the Democratic Party's most electable candidate
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 08:46 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
27. And most qualified and experienced. Proven leadership ability. Strong AA support. A message
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 01:42 AM
Dec 2019

of unity, healing, and giving no haven to hate that so many Americans want to hear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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