Let's remember that the horrible moderate centrist Hillary Clinton

makes my heart break a little bit more every day.

People are stupid.

break my heart. She was planning to hit the ground running big time. With another 8 years of liberal government, building on Obama's tough start but now with control of the senate and far better position in the house at worst, we should have had the nation feeling much more secure and prosperous.

And not least, today's very dangerous populism and extremism, left and right, would be asphyxiated for lack of the fear and resentment that feed them.

And remembering how those extremists used planted smears in 2016 without question still makes me sick. Preventing this from happening again is high on my list in the primaries and general election.

but new, innocent people once again need to become aware of how they're being targeted.

Simple rule of thumb: If he or she lies or hides what he's up to, he's up to no good.

Biden was actually VP when the ACA was passed, saying himself at the signing "this is a big fucking deal." CHIP was a good step in the right direction but ACA affected a lot more people and as an actual elected member of the administration Biden has a much clearer claim on his role in making it happen. As the linked OP itself says, while Hillary does deserve a lot of credit for making CHIP happen, it wasn't entirely accurate for her to take all the credit for herself.

passed saving millions of kids lives...so stop downplaying one of Hillary Clinton's greatest accomplishments...how many lives did your candidate save?

I notice you have Biden as your candidate of choice in the primary. Do you seriously think CHIP was more important than the ACA? Or that HRC's credited but unofficial role in getting CHIP compares to Biden's official role as VP in getting the ACA passed? I'm not sure what you are getting at and it doesn't really make any sense.

including my nephew in Georgia as Georgia did not expand Medicaid and his Mom didn't make enough for the ACA.

...where is your argument that "none of our candidates has saved as many lives as HRC?" It seems like you are drawing that very narrowly indeed, and it's not clear why. HRC isn't even a candidate now, so what exactly are you trying to accomplish with this argument? I proudly voted for her in the GE in 2016 and would again except that she's not running. Your own candidate of choice is the very argument against what you seem to be arguing here, and again I have to wonder why.

many kids lives. And no one save Obama has done that. Of course you need to give Pelosi credit too.

You insist on cutting in HRC, who was not an elected official in any capacity despite her positive influence, and cutting out Biden who was Obama's actual VP, an elected position with actual powers. Look I like Hillary myself for a lot of reason but this simply does not make any sense. You have the very candidate who did what you say none of the current candidates did as your primary avatar. Do you know ANYTHING about these people?

Time to move on and stop fighting the 2016 election.

Stick to the subject of this OP.

who will be voting in November 2020. Be honest and not just support who you "like", but doesn't have a chance to win in November 2020. I never see folks talking about how their primary candidate can beat trump. We are a Center/Left country no matter how many folks think otherwise.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

the fucking m$m, Cambridge analytica, Voter suppression..

No one is rewriting history 'cause you say so.

who actually got it through the Senate

linked to instead of posting a snarky response, you would have seen that Kennedy said this:

I'm fed up with snarky labels of all kinds.

The point I am making is I am as sick of Dem's adopting GOP labels of 'far left', 'hard left' and 'radical left' towards fellow party members, as I became of the 'CorporaDem' shite in the previous primary cycle.

Far left in relation to Ted Kennedy? Seems odd if you hate the term.

I am surprised you would downplay one of Hillary Clinton's achievements...well up is down on this site at the moment. CHIP has saved millions of kids's lives including my nephew in Georgia's life...as you may remember Medicaid was never expanded in this state and others...so CHIP is all the kids have. It was and is a great accomplishment.

Both Clinton and Obama were sneered at as 'moderate and establishment',one of our current candidates wanted to primary Obama in 12 in fact. But both accomplished something CHIP and the ACA...what have those who sneer at moderates ever accomplished other than to lose winnable elections? Nothing ...the big "0". And Warren was still a Republican at the time CHIP passed by the way by her own words.

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) told George Stephanopoulos Sunday that she left the Republican Party in the mid-90s because it was tilting the playing field in favor of Wall Street."

who are right-wing, who wouldn't have been right-wing.

The left screwed itself - now they won't see any of what they want in their lifetimes. The courts will be able to invalidate parts of anything they manage to pass, if they ever did pay attention to Congress and not just the presidency.

become policy...thanks to the left left Greens who fucked us all by not supporting Gore, bashing Kerry in the primary and not supporting Hillary and of course ... they did not have Obama's back in 10 and 14...so nothing got done for us including getting a SCOTUS pick. The things most of them complain about,United, wars etc...they helped bring about.

No matter, the Republicans and their masters, the healthcare industrial complex, as I call it, lobbyiests, pushed down hard then as they still are now. People have a right to health care. Let's hope who ever becomes our new President doesn't take half measures in saving people's lives.

Focus on the enemy not the people who are trying to make a difference.

Its the media that cost Clinton the election and gave us Trump.



The media are still doing it. They want Trump.

We can't trust people who dishonestly smear and tear down others. We should not vote for them.