Sanders slams GOP 'hatred' on health care in hearing

[Uncle Joe]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Wednesday slammed Republicans over health care policies in their proposed budget, going after what he claimed to be a “hatred” of providing health coverage.

(snip)

“I frankly do not understand why Republicans seem to have such a hatred toward providing health care to the American people,” said Sanders, who serves as ranking member of the panel.

Sanders was referring to the Senate GOP budget proposal, which assumed a complete repeal of the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

(snip)

Sanders said the budget, if implemented, would also cut funds to nursing homes, pregnant women and new mothers, education and Social Security.

“I’m impressed by what you’re able to read into my budget,” Sen Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.), the chairman of the panel, said with a chuckle.

“Accurate,” Sanders replied.

(snip)


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/436134-sanders-slams-gop-hatred-on-health-care-in-hearing

[CentralMass]

1. K&R

[Buzz Lightyear]

2. But he opposes House bill strengthening Obamacare

Interesting.

[Amimnoch]

3. It's just not pure enough!

[Uncle Joe]

4. Here is a nice video of Bernie defending the ACA while castigating the Republican Budget Cuts.

Bernie uses the iron hand in a velvet glove approach.

The article that I posted in the OP doesn't do this video justice.

[MrsCoffee]

5. Here is a video saying he won't support strengthening ACA.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-says-get-rid-of-the-insurance-companies-wont-support-anything-but-medicare-for-all/

This video was two days ago. So which is it? Why are his supporters here trying to pretend he didn’t go on Chris Hayes show and say what he said?

[Uncle Joe]

6. Your video is a post of a tree, my video is a view of the forest.

[MrsCoffee]

7. So we should take your word over his?

Keep trying.

[Uncle Joe]

8. Bernie's words; are on the video which I posted for anyone to see.

[MrsCoffee]

9. Yes, they are. Seems he has flip flopped on this one.

In his words he says he won’t support the House Bill to strengthen ACA. Only supports MFA.

It’s there in the video I posted. Did you see the look on Hayes face?

[NurseJackie]

11. It's disgusting. He's COMPLETELY disqualified himself. He should withdraw now...

It's disgusting. He's COMPLETELY disqualified himself. He should withdraw now and go back to Vermont.

[MrsCoffee]

12. A continuation of his unity tour to be sure.

[Uncle Joe]

13. Bernie is running for President on Medicare for All, flip flopping would supporting the ACA

in a purely symbolic measure which will only be brought up for vote by the Senate on the same day McConnell allows a vote to make the Mueller Report public, in other words never.

As the ranking minority member on the Senate Budget Committee, where Bernie has actual influence to shape the upcoming legislation, Bernie is defending the ACA's positive aspects while simultaneously putting the Republicans on the moral defensive.

Their draconian budget policies are based on an inexplicable hatred of providing health care to the American Nation, no other advanced nation on Earth treats its citizens as fodder for the wealthy and powerful.

[MrsCoffee]

18. How can you defend the ACA in one breath and then say you won't support strengthening it?

He clarified when he said NO that he supported no legislation other than his own version of MFA.

So what the fuck do people do in the meantime? We can’t get MFA today, but there is a chance we can make the ACA stronger today and save lives.

He is against that? Said he wouldn’t vote for it if it came to the Senate? Screw that. He needs to get off the stage. He undermines Democrats and the party all the time.

[Uncle Joe]

20. This isn't rocket science and I will take substance any day over symbolism.

Nothing the house does will strengthen the ACA before 2020, not with McConnell and not with Trump.

The Republicans overreach in killing the ACA and/or starving it of funds can be fought in the public sphere, which Bernie is actually doing most adeptly.

As for what Bernie will vote for in the Senate depends on what final budgetary legislation makes its' way through, until that happens any prognostications are futile.

[MrsCoffee]

23. He said he wouldn't vote for it.

Prognosticate on that.

[Uncle Joe]

26. No he didn't, now you're putting words in Bernie's mouth.

From your own video on post# 5 review it again, Bernie never says "he would vote against it."

Peace to you.

[MrsCoffee]

29. So saying he wouldn't support any legislation but his own means maybe?

I am so tired of the spin that surrounds Bernie.

[Uncle Joe]

32. It's no secret that Bernie is running for President on Medicare for All,

that healthcare; should be a right not a privilege, that it should be treated the same as police or fire protection.

Bernie isn't running for President on the ACA, I thought pretty much everybody knew this, why is this news?

[Andy823]

33. Exactly!

and he said its "twice"! I was watching and Chris was shocked when Bernie said he would not vote for it, so he asked him a second time, and he said it again. People can spin it all they want, the facts prove what was said.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

41. Yet he was a crucial vote to pass the ACA

Say and claim all you want but that “non democrat” was there in the clinch while other democrats were busy trying to weaken the legislation

[SFnomad]

21. BS's position is the evil twin of "Repeal and Replace" n/t

[George II]

45. Hayes was dumbfounded, and followed up with a tweet about it, too:

Link to tweet

[SFnomad]

17. omg, stop, please

[Buzz Lightyear]

37. He defended it before he opposed it

Nobody disputes that he defended it previously.

[Uncle Joe]

39. This is an ongoing debate in the Senate with today's budget it hasn't stopped.

Bernie as a candidate for President wants something better.

[NurseJackie]

10. I can't take seriously ANYTHING he says... he's disqualified from consideration!

He opposes strengthening Obamacare, so he should just withdraw from the race and GO HOME to Vermont.

Disgusting.

PS: He's got time to oppose the ACA but not enough time to release his taxes? His priorities are NOT in alignment with mine. We have so many BETTER candidates to choose from.

[R B Garr]

14. Exactly! We already KNOW that the GOP slams healthcare ,

we don’t need Bernie telling us that! The idea is to gain/stay in power to overcome them, not constant useless contrarianism that gets nothing done and HANDS them win after win because of working against Democrats!

So fricking frustrating. They are trying to fuck up Medicare now and all we get are platitudes of the OBVIOUS. Millions are going to be hurt by this. Save Obamacare, ffs. First things first

[NurseJackie]

15. This is UNFORGIVABLE! I'm LIVID! He's completely disqualified... I'M SERIOUS! DISQUALIFIED!

This is UNFORGIVABLE! I'm LIVID! He's completely disqualified... I'M SERIOUS! DISQUALIFIED! He needs to withdraw from the race ... hang his head in SHAME... and haul himself back to Vermont, or DC and just finish out his term, then RETIRE!

I mean, seriously... WHAT THE FUCK??!!

[R B Garr]

22. It is beyond infuriating! That Chris Hayes interview really gave

a glimpse into his soul. I am so angry after listening to that completely self-serving all or nothing tripe.

[Uncle Joe]

16. The Republicans slam health care as being part of their "big government" meme.

Bernie is most aggressively taking the fight against them on moral high grounds.

Bernie's frame will win out if not by the Republicans in the Senate then with the American Nation.

[R B Garr]

19. LOL, handing Republicans power is never winning out and

that’s all this has gotten. That is no “moral high grounds”, it’s being played and getting beaten.

[Uncle Joe]

24. Taking the fight against the Republicans on the moral high ground is most assuredly NOT

giving them power.

The Republicans dread it, for they know this is their Achilles Heel.

Being on the moral high ground is being on the offensive not the defensive and that's the only way to win especially in today's political climate.

Trump is not only immoral but blatantly so, Republicans tied too close to him will pay a heavy price and they know it.

[R B Garr]

25. Spare me the empty platitudes. That is not what's happening

at all and it’s a waste of time to shove your morals on someone else when it’s more about ego. Protecting Obamacare, current Medicare, pre-existing conditions, these are what need protecting now. His 4-year phase in that is literally an all or nothing pipe dream is not the moral fight in front of us today.

[Uncle Joe]

27. That's exactly what Bernie is doing in the Senate and you would know that if you viewed the video

[R B Garr]

28. We saw the Chris Hayes interview. Quit with the empty

platitudes about morals. It was very clear what he said about only supporting his all-or-nothing 4-year phase/in. No way can anyone call that “morals”.

[Uncle Joe]

30. It's no secret that Bernie is running on and supports Medicare for All,

that healthcare; should be a right not a privilege, that it should be treated the same as police or fire protection.

Bernie isn't running for President on the ACA, I thought pretty much everybody knew this, why is this news?

Do you believe the for profit private health insurance industry to be a moral institution?

Do you disagree with Bernie in the video to that I just posted that Trump and the Republicans health care budget proposals gutting the ACA are based on hatred of providing health care to the American Nation?

[R B Garr]

31. Spare me the empty platitudes. We KNOW all about

the GOP. We don’t need Bernie telling us the OBVIOUS.



We know all about Bernie’s all-or-nothing Medicare idealism. That is not the moral issue in front of us.

[Uncle Joe]

34. Well somebody out there in America needs to hear it, even if we're all enlightened

as to the truth.

P.S. You never did answer my questions, there were only three.

[R B Garr]

35. We heard Bernie on Chris Hayes show and it was a very

self-serving message. His way or the highway is not a moral message.

I’m tired of these empty platitudes and kicking this thread.

[Uncle Joe]

36. Health care as a human right is not a platitude, it's a matter of life and death

for tens of millions of Americans.

If you consider that "self-serving" the American Nation needs more of it.

And you still never answered my questions.

Bernie isn't running for President on the ACA, I thought pretty much everybody knew this, why is this news?

Do you believe the for profit private health insurance industry to be a moral institution?

Do you disagree with Bernie in the video to that I just posted that Trump and the Republicans health care budget proposals gutting the ACA are based on hatred of providing health care to the American Nation?

[betsuni]

38. Which party do you think is "ideologically bankrupt" again?

This is not difficult to understand.

[Uncle Joe]

40. The Republicans are morally bankrupt as their health care budget proposal screams

to high heaven.

Do you believe the for profit "health" insurance industry to be a moral institution?

Do you believe the Republican's health care budget proposal gutting the ACA to be moral?

[George II]

42. This was during a Senate hearing. It has nothing to do with the primaries, should be posted....

....in either General Discussion or in LBN if it's still within 12 hours of when it happened or was reported.

[Uncle Joe]

43. Except that there is false meme being proposed on this forum that Bernie opposes

the ACA2 being proposed in the House.

Bernie doesn't oppose it, he just doesn't support it, and there is most assuredly a difference between the two.

The OP and videos on this thread demonstrate Bernie can do two things at once, run on Medicare for All and yet defend the best provisions of the ACA.

[George II]

44. It's not false, he said it on Chris Hayes' show a few nights ago. Even Hayes was stunned:

Link to tweet

And his new National Press Secretary confirmed it:

Link to tweet

"opposed to" vs. "not supporting" - just words.